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    Posted: April 28 2005 at 10:12am
I have some apple cider vinegar,  and I was just wondering if you dilute it or just put it on directly.  Then shampoo and condition or what would be the best method?

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Experiment with dilution to see what leaves you with the best results. I dilute 1/2 cup ACV in 2 cups of water. It's also easy to measure because it fills a 20 oz soda bottle.

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Hmmm, I also just apple cider vinegar and i really just guesstimate the exchange. I just use a big water bottle and pour up about what smells potent enough, lol. I'd just say to experiment with different ammounts. It depends on how long your hair is and how often you use "bad stuff". I'm still experimenting...

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Is this actually better than using a clarifying shampoo?  Why use the ACV rinse instead of using a clarifying shampoo?  We use a clarifying shampoo once every two weeks or so.  We do use shampoos and conditioners with cones regularly.
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IMHO, yes it is. A rinse is less wear and tear than a shampoo because there is minimal "wash handling" (e.g. scrubbing and lathering).

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I was just wondering, where can I buy apple cider vinegar?  I can't find it anywhere and I'd like to try the rinse because the clarifying shampoo I use now makes my hair break off.
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You can get it in the supermarket. It's often sold next to the oils.

I buy a large jug of white distilled vinegar, which is much cheaper.



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A large bottle of distilled white vinegar lasts a long time.  I only use it for 7 Seas salad dressing or vinegar rinses for the hair.  Only 1-2 tablespoons in 32 ounces of water is effective for me.  I use it after the final rinse of the conditioner... squeeze out the excess water, pour on the diluted vinegar rinse, and just let it soak in and run off for a minute or two.  Does a great job of removing buildup.
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I also don't have ACV, but white Vinegar, which is simply a proportional mixture of acetic acid, citric acid and water (no apple cidar or sth). I read an instruction on the web, telling to mix 1/2 cup vinegar & 1/2 cup water, apply it to hair, keep it for...(lol, I forgot) around 30 mins I guess, and then shampoo. But I'm carrying on with WO, and my hair's now VERY grasy and sticky from dust buildup on the thick oil tht my scalp produces. Would just a vinegar rinse be enough to wash it away? If so, wht concentration should I use?
NB: This is the first time I'm going to use Vinegar on hair, if I do so.
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It was always my understanding that vinegar does not clarify.
 
Here is a link to more information about vinegar and it's role.
 
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Vinegar's main work to control pH??! But Vinegar's just a proprtional mixture of acetic acid and citric acid (my mom makes it, so I know). And tht sums up to a acidic solution! How can it balance the pH?!
 
Anyway, if Vinegar doesn't clarify then wht sould I use?? My hair has got soo greasy and dirty. If vinegar does even the smallest amount of clarifying, from other ppl's experiences I think it would do. Because it's just the dirt sticking in my oils tht I need to wash.
 
Don't know how to vinegar rinse. Please Help!
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The scalp's Ph is supposed to be slightly acidic.  Conditioners and hard water may leave a more alkaline environment on the scalp, and doing a vinegar rinse last helps adjust this (its only a slight adjustment). 

I do not leave vinegar on my hair 30 min. before washing though, just pour it over after shampooing and conditioning (very dilute of course - like the posts above use), and let it air dry.  I use white vinegar, not apple cider, but I don't think it matters which one you use, I have never seen a difference.

I use it for a slight clarifying (not as good as clarifying shampoo if you use silicones.  If you don't use cones, vinegar will probably be enough).  If you use a heavy conditioner with silicones, use a shampoo that calls itself clarifying.  I also use vinegar rinses because I have hard well water which the acidic vinegar helps to rinse off (removes the calcium that would otherwise sit on my hair making it dull).

I use the method where I pour some in a cup and dip the hair in, then pour the rest over my head (that's diluted with water that is).

If you are having a grease and dirt problem, clarifying isn't really the issue.  You need to wash your hair with shampoo.  If you want to go to WO (water only?) you may just have to do it gradually, the scalp can take months to adjust the amount of oil it puts out.  Wash every once in awhile with shampoo.  Going without shampoo doesn't work for everyone (I can't even go three days...I tried for several months and my scalp never really stopped putting out so much oil, so, just doesn't work for me).

Just a note:  Clarifying with a clarifying shampoo should only be done once every 2 weeks to once a month because its very drying to the hair (you have to condition really well afterwards).  If you do a vinegar rinse, this can be done after every wash and is okay. 




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When I started using vinegar, I poured it on after conditioning and left it in, but I didn't have that great of results with reducing scalp oil.  Then I tried rinsing it out after applying (still at the end of the shower) and it worked great!  I now wash my hair once per week, and I can wear it down up until the last day without it looking greasy.

It doesn't rinse clean -- even after rinsing my hair smells like vinegar until it is completely dry.
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It depends on your definition of "clarify". Buildup does include mineral deposits. In fact, sometimes the mineral deposits can cause a greater problem than the conditioner residue because it doesn't comb off as easily. The main role of ACV in my routine at least, is to remove mineral deposits and not necessarily conditioner residue... and as a side benefit, keeps scalp itch under control.  Personally, it's been a year since I really used shampoo but product residue hasn't been a problem even with 4 conditioners and a high porosity. I'd imagine a clarifying shampoo wouldn't even be necessary in most cases of radical CO'ers
 
It's after midnight; I hope this makes sense.
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