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BiggMike do you think that maybe because of the big difference in percentage points is because there are more whites than african americans?  That has been on my mine certain percentages and statistics in america.

 

All "Blacks" are not are not Black, some Blacks are actually Africans who follow a tradition of pride when it comes to family. Therefore they don't divorce as much as American "Blacks", they stay together and rear their children together.

And also, your are right, there are more whites than African Americans. Whites represent more of the population than African Americans. The African American race is slowly being destroyed. Our numbers are going down hill. Most Black males are going to jail or dying. Black women are out living us because they can find a job and have role models, Black men are dying because we don't have role models and our Mothers refuse to marry and stay married......So it will continue.

You think it's hard to find a "good man" now let all the males continue to grow up without fathers and there will be no men.

More and more Black women will be without a mate because all the Black MEN will be dead soon.

How many Black women really care about there own sons?

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 07 2005 at 11:50am
BiggMike do you think that maybe because of the big difference in percentage points is because there are more whites than african americans?  That has been on my mine certain percentages and statistics in america.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 07 2005 at 11:14am
"'Exposure to single motherhood at some point during adolescence increases the risk of a daughter's later becoming a single mother by nearly [150 percent] for whites and.....by about 100 percent for blacks.'"
Sara S. McLanahan, "Family Structure and Dependency: Reality Transitions to Female Household Headship,"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 07 2005 at 11:12am
"Black children are only half as likely as white children to be living in a two-parent household, and are eight times more likely than white children to live with an unwed mother. For black children under six, 'the most common arrangement -- applying to 42 percent of them -- was to live with a never-married mother.'"
citing Andrew J. Cherlin,
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Having No Dad Affects Black Boys' Self-Esteem


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Having No Dad Affects Black Boys' Self-Esteem
Life with father translates to stronger kids

By Julia McNamee Neenan
HealthSCOUT Reporter

MONDAY, Sept. 18 [2000] (HealthSCOUT) -- Living in a fatherless
family damages a black boy's self-esteem, says a study released today.

"In the black community, there's a slogan, 'Black mothers raise their
daughters and love their sons,' " says one of the study's authors,
Carolyn B. Murray, an associate professor at the University of California, Riverside.
"It's the father who holds that boy accountable.
He has that boy toe the line; he holds the rules and responsibilities
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But when fathers aren't present in black families, regardless of such
things as family income and education, young boys' self-esteem drops,
the study says. That doesn't appear to happen with young girls in
these families, it says.

What this means for the boys, experts say, can range from their
having problems in school to participating in gangs as part of their search for male role models.
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DIVORCE AND MARRIAGE AFFECT BLACK CHILDREN MORE
May 25, 2005

Divorce and marriage play much bigger economic roles for black children than white children in the United States, according to a new study by two UC Davis economists. Marianne Page and Ann Huff Stevens find that in the first two years following a divorce, family income among white children falls about 30 percent, while it falls by 53 percent among black children.  "This difference increases dramatically in the long run," Page and Stevens write. "Three or more years after the divorce, about a third of the loss in whites' household income is recouped, but the income of black families barely improves."

In fact, three or more years after the divorce, the black families' incomeremains 47 percent lower than if the parents had remained together.
Marriage appears to have even greater benefits for black children whose single mothers marry than for their white counterparts, according to the study.

Page and Stevens estimate that while the family income of white children rises by 45 percent when their single parent marries, the family income of black children rises by 81 percent with marriage. One reason for the difference in improvement is that married black mothers are more likely to work than married white mothers. On the other hand, when divorce occurs, the probability of black mothers working does not change, while recently divorced white women have an 18 percent greater probability
of working.

The study, published in the February 2005 issue of Demography, followed a
nationally representative, longitudinal survey of Americans conducted by the
University of Michigan's Institute for Social Research.
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I feel you.  Like I tell many others that are around me.  In this world there is way more women than men.  You will always see a very beautiful women everywhere you go.  You just going to have to refrain from trying to be a playa and having sex.  Basically that is where all the problems are starting.  I personally found that Bible principles and your morals will give you a happier life.  I do not have any kids right now but my girl wants them trying to implant in my brain but I am too focused on me to go to the left rather than right.  Everyone has there own situations and problems; but if we all can get the accurate info we need and act on it then we might see a difference.  Excellent topic BiggMike.  The media is (always) advertising us on television for some wrong doing.  It disgusts me.  Thats just me though.  We are the creative ones, and we are the biggest spenders.  Then you have others groups copy the idea and make serious dollars. Its not about the money but us acting faster on the opportunities we create.  Peace!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2005 at 10:15pm
that was beautiful big, that makes me think about all the things that are going around me.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2005 at 5:36pm
its really sad about all the fathers that are locked up, and the ones that are too young to even realize that they are fathers and that they should present themselves as rolemodels for their kids. this is some good info BIGGMike. you always come with that knowlege that challenges us to think about our roles and positions in society as upcoming black men.



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The truth is not what some people want to hear.

 



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My resume says: Have experience, will teach!!!

Don't be confuse about who you are. Get some help it's not too late ^^^^^^.

Moma taught you that behavior, but did your father show you?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2005 at 11:03am

My job is hard but a real MAN will tell the other side of the coin that so many young Black MEN don't hear. This is because of a female dominated family that devalues Black MEN. But wants you to put all the value on females that don't even respect them. Sad but true!

Somebody got to tell them cause Moma is not telling the whole true!

In America the truth is not what some people want to hear or talk about. They would rather tell one sided lies about the MEN to their own children.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2005 at 10:37am

True, children need their fathers, gainfully employed fathers. My children are the world to me. I'm always thinking about them. It's so hard to spend time with when you have to work and go to school.

Sometime I get so upset over the destruction of the American family, specificly the Black Family, that I want to just to yell. There are so many Black children growing up without fathers for many different reasons. One main reason is many Black people no longer value marriage or family. I know I'm talking to mainly young men and teenagers on this site, but once you become an adult and get involved with women and children you will see that Black MEN are not valued either. Jobs, Fads, and Fake hair is more important than a Black Man is. I want all the young men on this site to understand that you are under valued by your own people.

We are viewed only as a Childsupport check and a sperm donor. They only value us for MONEY. A black man is more valued outside of his own home than he is valued in his home with his wife and children. What does that mean? You are more likely to be divorced and put on childsupport than you are valued as a husband and a father. Fathers and husbands are viewed as having a bunus compared to a carreers, degrees, and hair weave. I mean I've seen women value fake hair and bleached out skin more than a Black MAN. It's really sad about the INDIVIDUALISTIC, MATERIALISTIC MENTALITY OF A FEMALE.  

Materialistic: charteristic of being entirely devoted to the gain of wealth, material goods, and advancement over the value of ethics and morals.

What am I talking about? I'm talking about the value of a Black man by his own people. We are not valued. We are considered to be a joke or something. This is because of fatherlessness. In the African American Culture mothers unknowingly teach their daughters to disrespect and undervalue men. They also unknowingly teach their sons low self esteem. How BiggMike? Simple, by not marrying and submitting themselve to a Black Man like the Bible says. And degrading Black MEN every chance they get. Ask yourself this, If I where a Black female growing up in a Male dominated household with no female role models and all you hear and see is your father degrading and disrespecting Black women, would you as female have low self esteem or high self esteem? You would more than likely have LOW self esteem. This what youong Black males are subjected to in a female dominated household with no father. How can balck males be expected to be good fathers when their are no  fathers in the household and no respect for a MAN is the household? I will not marry a female that did not have a father growing up. Because she is more likely to think she is the head of the house. She is more likely to divorce because she under values MEN.

Self hatetred is the key word. We, Black MEN hate ourselves and hate each other too (hating on each other). It's a learned behavior we learn from our own mothers who under value MEN.

Where is your father, is it really ALL his fault that he is not still married to your mother. When you become a grown MAN you will understand better. But for now all you are hearing is Moma's female point of view on everthing. You will find out as a Grown MAN that mother has many faults herself and is partially responsible for your father leaving her. But let her tell it, she's perfect and dad is sorry. Not, that's the degrading talk I was talking about. You'll understand later, trust me you will. Resentment for lies is a mother.  Sociology at it's best. Think about! Comments

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 6:29pm
same here...i will be gettina  good job before i even think of children because there ain nuttin free but christ
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 5:00pm
if i was a father i will never doubt my child i would always be there for my son or daughter

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 4:29pm

THEY LOOKING BUT NOT SAYING ANYTHING.

WHAT, YOU CAN'T TOUCH IT.

IS IT TOO HOT? OR IS IT TOO COLD?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 11:05am

You say Wow BiggMike, why did you choose this topic?

You know why!  Look at the African American Male. Look at his incarceration rate, look at the divorce rate, look at the school drop out rate. Look at how many males grow up without a father and ask yourself, Is fatherlessness destroying the African American community? Is drugs destroying us? Is ignorance destroying us? Is a lack of motivation destroying us?

Incarceration Rate. US Gov. Statistics

Minorities account for 41.45 percent of all incarcerations, with African-Americans comprising 31.98 percent of these. The incarceration rate of African Americans is 3,452 incarcerations per 100,000 of that race compared to 18 per 100,000 for Asians, 571 for Whites, 614 for American Indians, 438 for Hispanics, and 170 for Others. African American males total 30.83 percent of all males inmates and 30.03 percent of all males sentences. African American females account for 40.08 percent of all female inmates and 37.19 percent of all female sentences. Sentences were given for 29 defined crime areas. Three of these crimes account for 40 percent of all incarcerations.

 

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Domestic Violence and false claims of domestic violence is destroying the family structure. We all know somebody who has been falsely accused of this crime.

The National Fathers' Resource Center and Fathers for Equal Rights is adamant in its belief that Domestic Violence cannot be tolerated. The NFRC and FER also demands that the society acknowledge that Domestic Violence is an equal problem for both genders.

FACT: 50% or more of domestic violence (spouse or "significant other" assaults) are perpetrated by women. This is confirmed by hundreds of valid studies, the authors of which are sometimes threatened with discontinuation of funding for being politically incorrect (this means saying what powerful people don't want to hear). Part of the poison that the women's groups spew is the blatantly false allegation that 95% of DV is perpetrated by men against women. The women's groups have promoted this lie for so long now, many people, including men, actually believe it.

Nevertheless, the radical feminist groups have been working overtime for many years to promote the libelous propaganda that men are violent towards women and children and can't be trusted. If a lie is repeated often enough, people start believing it. And in fact, most of the policy makers in American society have bought into the lie. One result is millions of dollars of our tax money funneled to domestic violence shelters (read: women's shelters) and other related programs. Another result of this pernicious libel is seen in domestic violence laws that presume that men are the primary aggressors. We all know that if mom calls 911, dad will be arrested. If dad calls 911, dad will be arrested. Fathers, grandfathers, husbands, boyfriends, are all portrayed by shelter spokespersons as being untrustworthy (unless of course they need to be sent to war.)

The National Fathers' Resource Center and Fathers for Equal Rights demands that society acknowledge that false claims of Domestic Violence is used to gain unfair advantage in custody and divorce cases.

Fathers' organizations now estimate that up to 80% of domestic violence allegations against men are false allegations. Since society offers women so many perks for claiming that they are victims of DV (we call these perks "warm milk and cookies"), false or staged DV allegations now appear to be even more frequent in family court cases than false sex abuse allegations. And they are much easier to fabricate. Mom can simply scratch her arm with her fingernail and claim that dad did it to her! Many men plead "no contest" to these allegations, often because they cannot afford good legal representation. What father, who has been kicked out of his house, estranged from his children, paying exorbitant child support and spousal support, and may lose his job if convicted of domestic violence, can afford good legal representation, both in family court and in criminal court? So, he rolls over and pleads "no contest," which of course is the kiss of death in his custody case. It may also keep him from owning a gun, including a rifle or shotgun for hunting purposes, and in many cases it has resulted in good police officers losing their jobs (because they can't carry a gun) or even soldiers being dismissed from the military, because they too are often prohibited from using firearms.

The domestic violence industry was hijacked by the feminists around 30 years ago, however perhaps the most damaging process took place some 15 years ago, namely the "fusing" of the domestic violence industry with the divorce industry. Simply stated, women know, and are often advised by their attorneys, that if they want to get custody of the children, they had better try to nail dad with some sort of domestic violence accusation. In many states, that alone will nail the coffin. Dad will be labeled a perpetrator, will lose custody of his children, will be placed under supervised visitation with his children, will often pay mom's attorney fees and court costs, will be ordered to pay alimony, will be forced to pay for and attend "anger management" or "batterers" classes often lasting 36 weeks, and will be required by the court to send financial contributions to the local women's shelter. (This reminds one of the Nazi practices of forcing Jews to purchase tickets for their own "train rides" to death camps.) Keep in mind, the domestic violence allegation against dad does not have to be true, it only has to sound plausible for it to stick, and we see the devastating success of the poisonous propaganda. Goebbels couldn't have orchestrated it better.

Texas Fathers for Equal Rights is adamant in its belief that child abuse in general cannot be tolerated; and child sexual abuse, in particular, is among the most heinous of deeds. Sexual abusers of children must be exposed for their criminal acts. The guilty must be punished, and children must be protected from their aggressors.

FACT: According to nationwide CPS statistics, the largest percentage of child abuse/neglect is perpetrated by the mother, acting alone. Remember Andrea Yates, Susan Smith, Darlie Routier? Fathers are far less likely to be child abuse/neglect perpetrators. In other words, children are safer from child abuse/neglect with their fathers than with their mothers.

A college study asked male and female students if they had a sexual experience before age 15 with a person 5 or more years older. The results were that 59% of the students were molested by a female. Of male college students surveyed, 43 - 60% report being sexually victimized by females.

The National Fathers' Resource Center and Fathers for Equal Rights demands that state and federal laws that severely punish those who make false claims of Domestic Violence.

The guilty must be punished-that is those who commit the act and those who falsely accuse spouses to gain advantage in divorce.

The National Fathers' Resource Center and Fathers for Equal Rights wants to share information and remove stereo types connected with Domestic Violence.

Knowledge is power. And that is the purpose this section on domestic violence. Learn how the domestic violence industry thinks and works. Learn how they deceive the lawmakers and the public, and study the techniques they use. Learn about their collaborators in the police departments, the prosecutors' offices, the federally funded legal services programs, and in the courtrooms. Follow the money trail, and discover who is enriched by the mass demonization and criminalization of men and fathers. Prevention is best, but if you are facing a false domestic violence accusation, we want you to have the knowledge and tools to fight it most effectively and to protect the right of your children to have a positive, healthy, and meaningful relationship with you, their nurturing and protective father.



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