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    Posted: March 10 2006 at 8:09am
And really anyone else who has imput, I just know she spoke of this.

I remember in some post (can't find it now) you said you doubled your
wefts in the protac. I doubled mine also (great idea!) but I also think you
said there were a few you tripled? Am I right?

I have the thin little microwefts, so I doubt it would be a problem. Also,
what I wanted to do was double the Elite wefts, then cut another weft into
about 1" sections and make it look like highlights (I believe AMM showed
a demo of this in some post)

Basically I am wondering if this would be too much, fall out easily, pull
too much on the natural hair...you know, any problems?
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I think it would work fine. I have tripled the wefts using the full size tape and they held fine my last install. My current install I cut the protac in half, and I only tripled one row. And the Bohyme regular machine wefts are a tight fit with 3 rows on half tapes. And its holding fine, but I think the triple row will slip a little sooner than the other rows. Next time Ill use shrinkies to anchor.

I think with a handtied weft or the micro wefts, that what you want to do will work fine.

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Sherrie,  do you cut the tape down the middle to use half or trim the outer edges? 

I think that maybe if I half mine next time I could adjust to the "feel" of the wefts in my hair (also, less tape at takedown for a bonus).

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Wow, sherrie, you are the dreamer! First doubling and tripling wefts now
cutting the tapes in half! I envy you for not thinking of it first and instead
having to steal all your ideas!!

Sounds great, I will triple up some, probably using the regular size tape,
and then cut some in half, probably towards the top and bottom where
they tend to feel more bulky. Wow...I'm still impressed, what will she
think of next??

Thanks Sherrie!
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I reinstalled and cut the protac in half as Sherrie suggested, and it makes a HUGE difference...my head would get itchy before, cause the tape was so big...I haven't had any slippage except for one weft which I put on top, that I didn't fold over...it fell out after washing...but cutting the protac in half works beautifully!!
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Well thanks girls! But I cant take all the credit, some of those ideas were from others too! Actually I was late jumping in on the pro-tac bandwagon! This is a method that I really like, and when I find a method that I like I usually just keep working with it and tweaking it until I perfect it for myself....which doesnt necessarily mean it always works as well for someone else. But I like to share my ideas, and what I learn, so heck no I dont mind...steal away, as I also have learned alot from others. And I have used alot of ideas from others too!

Sarytyr, yes I cut the tape right down the middle between the 2 white halves of the tape. So instead of 1&1/2 inch wide tape its only 3/4 of an inch wide. And tbctbc is right...it makes a HUGE difference in how they feel on your head, so much less bulky feeling, and you could actually get an extra row or two on your head if you want.

Naked eye, if you are using a micro weft you can still probably use the half size tape easily, without a problem. I installed triple rows with the pro-10 hair (very thin small track) and they fit easily on the half tape. Bohyme machine weft is a thicker and bigger track and I fit triple rows on the half tape, it was a tight fit, but was still do-able.

I havent had any problems with double or triple rows slipping out from between the tapes, but it seems like I remember someone had the double row slipping out of the tape (hand tied or micro, I think) which is why I use LG to secure the 2 wefts together between the tape, just added security. With micro wefts, there is less track to actually adhere to the tape, I would definitely secure the layers together, whether you sew them or glue them. I would definitely add that extra protection.



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I doubled wefted mine and I stitched mine together with invisible cotton and it has worked fine.
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I'm on my third install with the tapes cut in half.  It is definitely more comfortable than the full tape and just as secure, IMO.  I do use shrinkies, though, to anchor the wefts since my hair is so slippery.

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monsterita, I think the shrinkie anchor idea is an awesome idea. I wanted to go this install with the half tapes alone to see how long they would last (especially curious about this triple row) but next install Im gonna try your idea and add the shrinkies as anchors and see if that makes it last longer.

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For me, the shrinkies just keep the tape from slipping when I brush out my hair after I wash it.  It just gives it a little bit of extra security. 

Hair type: 1a/f/i
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Great! I didn't think about it ending my itches! That is the only thing
about the pro-tacs, my head itches like crazy! So sherrie, keep me posted
on how long the tripled up wefts last in the half tapes! I think I know what
I'm doing for my next install! Oh, I get so excited....
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When you ladies talk about cutting Pro-Tac in half, how do you install them?  Are you putting the tape on top of your hair, and then the weft on top of the tape?  Like only one layer of tape instead of two?

Or are you installing like normal, just with a shorter tape?

Or are you still using both halfs of the tape, you just cut them in half?

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I'm trying to figure out the logistics of this as well. Do you fold the half-
tape over the wefts and sandwich them, or is the tape just stuck to one
side of the weft?

I can see another advantage of using half-tapes--less gunk on the hair
and wefts.

For my new installation I doubled the microbonded wefts and stitched
them together by hand. I also sewed little thread color spots on the back
to color-code them so I'd know where to install them in the future. I
thought about using half-tapes but will wait until you trailbreakers
update us on how long they last. I'm really shooting for six weeks with
this installation.

I've got three double rows on the sides and four across the back--this
gives me a LOT of hair without a lot of tape on my head. The Elite Remy
that Amm sent me this time was so gorgeous that neither me nor my
stylist had the heart to cut it to my usual shorter style, so...now for the
first time in my life I have hair down to my bra strap! Amazing.
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[QUOTE=kristie m] I also sewed little thread color spots on the back
to color-code them so I'd know where to install them in the future.   [/
QUOTE]

Amazing. That's why I am always afraid to cut them because then I wont
know how to re-install. I need to do this. Man, that's so much work
though! Good idea.
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I used half tapes for my last install as well, but I don't cut mine down the
middle. I cut each side in half. The reason I do that is because when I
install, what I do is i put one piece of tape either side of my weft (or fold
it over, depending on if I'm using the middle part of the tape, or the two
pieces I cut off) and then I pull off a little piece of the tape from the side
that I attach to my head, and then stick it on, then I pull the white bit off a
bit further, attach that to my head and so on. I find that easier than
pulling the whole thing off and attaching it in one go. When its attached
to my head, I pull off the whole of the top part and sandwich my hair over
top.
If I cut the tape down the middle and folded it over the top of the weft I'd
have to take all the white part off and try to install it with my fingers
sticking to it all over the place and I'm just not that good! haha
I hope that made a little sense, its so hard to type out what you do
without it sounding confusing!
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Naked Eye, it really didn't take but a few minutes to sew in those color
spots. Sewing the wefts together is what took a ton of time. Once I'd
done that, I had rounds of thread around the wefts that were easy to snag
up into my needle to make little color dots. I used a system where I put a
dot on one corner for the top one, a dot towards the middle for the
middle one, and a dot on the other corner for the bottom one. I used red
for the right side, blue for the back and (stretching here) lemon yellow for
the left side. I know this is kind of anal, but I like being able to remove
the wefts and throw them in the sink to wash them without trying to keep
track of which is which.

Dunebug, if I decide to do half-tapes, I'll be doing it your way. I like
having the split white tape to hang onto when I'm putting the weft onto
the hair. I guess cutting them down the middle would give you twice as
much tape for the price, but I'm willing to waste half to have something to
hang onto while I'm positioning them.
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I cut the tape in half length-wise and then fold it over the weft so the weft is sandwiched inside the tape.  Then, I lift half of the white backing and stick it to my hair and then lift off the other half of the white backing last.

Hair type: 1a/f/i
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here are a few pictures of how I did mine using the half tapes.

Heres a piece of the protac tape, cut in half...I cut right down the middle between the 2 pieces of white paper.

I peel the blue side off, apply the first layer of weft to the tape, put a thin layer of LG along the track and add the second layer of weft to the tape

fold the the other half of the tape over the wefts and press firmly to secure...I spend a couple of minutes pressing the tape really well to the wefts

I peel the entire white piece off at one time, I just hang onto the edges of the weft below the tape to apply it to my head. I just lightly stick it on, then pull the hair over the tape to sandwich and this is when I really press it well to make sure its stuck well.

It might be easier for some to peel just one side of the white paper up, place on head and then pull the rest of the paper off, I guess what ever works best for you...I think we will all come up with our own variations and what works best for us!

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Sherrie, I actually did that method the first time I used Pro-Tac, but it came right out.  For some reason my hair needs the whole length of Pro-Tac.  However, I'm wondering if it would stay in if I just used Pro-Tac on one side and didn't sandwhich.  What do you think?

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I dont know Bird, if it didnt stay in with the sandwiching I wonder if it would stay in with just one side. Id try it again before giving up. Wash hair with a clarifying shampoo, dry it well right before install. Really press the crap out of the tapes after install and wait AT LEAST 24, or better yet 48 hours before washing.

I think Dunebug had problems with them coming out the first install, I dont recall what she did different to make it work for her.

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