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Yeah, those not susceptible to migraine are lucky without knowing they are lucky (like I was before I got them...now I realize!).  It just makes another class of foods to have to avoid in whats turning out to be an already complicated diet.

I heard sulfur was good, I even took that for awhile in my late teens, but I didn't notice any improvement with that either.  Maybe its one of those things that just work for some.  I noticed my bottles of white wine have "contains sulfites" on them like its something I should be worried about, but I don't know if this is the same kind of sulfur that is supposed to be good, or even what's bad about it if not. 

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I have heard about the tannins as well. Red wine dosen't give me a head ache or anything of the sort, I just brake out if I drink it to many nights in a row. I have also heard that it is higher in sulfur. Sulfur is one of those tricky things. It has been used for hundreds of years for  skin ailments, and is actiually used in homeopathy for acne and several other skin ailments. Mabye it is one of those thingse where it has to get worse before it gets better?
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Hi Karen!  Awww bummer!  No more banana ever!  That's okay though, you don't have to go to the trouble of getting it for me (that's supersweet of you to offer though, thanks!)  At least the vanilla is pretty good if you mix it half and half with milk and orange juice (I really don't like the chocolate, very chalky). 

I'm glad your problems are getting better.  That's interesting about the caffeine, I'm surprised giving up decaf that you only had a couple of times a month made a difference.  But we are really all different!  I had gone through periods where I didn't drink anything but water, but my face didn't improve really, so I gave that up and went back to my beloved caffeine.  (I'm not really drinking decaf, which I didn't find very satisfying,  I'm drinking Turkish coffee, which takes about 15 minutes to make in the morning, but it lets me get the balance between having the pleasurable caffeine, but cooking it just long enough to not let it get very caffeinated at all so I don't get tmj).   So, its really low caffeine, and I like it too much to give it up!  I guess that's why the answers to our problems are so slow in coming, so many of us have problems with so many different things.  Good luck with your journey, I'm glad things are looking up healthwise for you!

Oh, and I did learn something about the urine test....I think your urine is supposed to be about 6.0, and if its more alkaline than that it may mean that your kidneys are putting out ammonia in response to your body being too acid (I'm not sure why it works that way though).  If your urine is more acid, that would probably be okay since eating stuff like vit. C and cranberries can supposedly make it more acid to help prevent UTIs.  I don't have any direct experience with testing urine, so I don't know how true it is, but it sounds reasonable.  (I always did the saliva test for pH).

digitaldiva -.  What toxins does red wine have?  I hadn't heard it had toxins, but I know it has way more tannins, and if you are prone to migraines (which it sounds like you are since you said red gives you headaches and white doesn't), tannins are definitely no good.  They are supposedly good for helping cleanse toxins from your body, which is why they say drink tea and red wine, and even caffeinated coffee, but for those of us with migraines, its not worth it, all those things cause them.  (I drink a half gallon of water a day just so I can get away with my turkish coffee without getting a migraine...drinking lots of water does help wash out the tannins, but even a ton of water is not enough to prevent a migraine for me after red wine, or anything with cherries in it).


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Originally posted by Susan W Susan W wrote:

Update on the "no grains" for acne diet:

I've been off the wheat for a few weeks straight now, it really does help to just not eat it most of the time, even if I cheat on occasion.  (I guess that makes sense since if its an allergy it would still be sitting in your intestines making you allergic otherwise).  I'm still utterly impressed with how great my skin feels, and even managed to get off the proactiv for a week.  (Then I hit my hormonal week and got one zit so I switched back to it, and still use both it and the neutrogena scrub). 

Whenever I cheat and eat a little bread, that is definitely what makes my face and neck itch.  This may be the whole reason it makes me break out (since I scratch and get hand dirt on my face), or maybe its just a side effect. 

Its not as hard as I thought it would be, after not eating wheat for a month, I've noticed I can cheat once or twice a week and sometimes not even get a zit.  I love being without congestion so much that I really hardly even miss it.  Since I know I can cheat once or twice a week, I don't feel like I'm hurtin' for it or anything, so this diet didn't turn out to be as hard as I thought it would be, even as a vegetarian.

Oh, and I still do eat as much sugar as I want, and drink a low-caf coffee in the morning.  Neither seems to cause acne at all for me.


 
Hi Susan,
 
First...I wanted to let you know that I found the banana Spirtene BUT it was almost out of date.  I asked the manager of the health food store and he told me "they discontinued banana and we just had some left".  The expiration date was 9/07.  If you want me to try and pick some up for you...I am happy to do so but was concerned about the expiration date.
 
Second....my facialist made me promise to give up caffeine and decaf for 30 days.  I had already given up caffeine some time ago but would have a decaf 2-3x a month.
 
I did give it up 30 days ago and my skin is just glowing.  People are actually asking me what I have done to my skin.  I think it is because I am drinking just water now (nothing else) and I have been following a religious skin care program (I tend to forget).
 
I am glad decaf is working OK for you.  I bet your skin looks great. 
 
Thanks for keeping us all updated.  :-)
 
On my front....my candida is still retreating and I am still pounding it hard.  Progress, not perfection is my personal motto. 
 
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Originally posted by Alisa06 Alisa06 wrote:

Wow, what a great subject. I love anything that has to do with nutrition and your skin,nails, hair,etc.
 
I am a self proclaimed wine-o! I love wine.Depending on what we have for dinner, I may ( not every night, maybe 3 nights a week) have a glass of wine. I have noticed that red wines will make me brake out it drink it to Manny nights in a row. White wine does night. interesting thought. I don't drink any other alcohol but maybe 2x a year. When I started the Atkins, I had to stay away from wine, (which I did not like) because of the sugar.
 
I had a friend of mine tell me once that she wondered if I had celiac SP? disease. Which is a wheat allergy. I don't have enough of the symptoms to promp any tests, but I obviously respond to wheat.
 
Karen, have you tried goats protein? I know Garden of Life is a really good company. I have tried quite a few of their products. I have not tried the protein shake, but everything else is really good.


Red wine has more toxins than white. Red gives me a headache if I drink more than 2 glasses. White doesn't do this.
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The couple of people that I have met that are allergic to wheat have the most beautiful skin I've ever seen.
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Update on the "no grains" for acne diet:

I've been off the wheat for a few weeks straight now, it really does help to just not eat it most of the time, even if I cheat on occasion.  (I guess that makes sense since if its an allergy it would still be sitting in your intestines making you allergic otherwise).  I'm still utterly impressed with how great my skin feels, and even managed to get off the proactiv for a week.  (Then I hit my hormonal week and got one zit so I switched back to it, and still use both it and the neutrogena scrub). 

Whenever I cheat and eat a little bread, that is definitely what makes my face and neck itch.  This may be the whole reason it makes me break out (since I scratch and get hand dirt on my face), or maybe its just a side effect. 

Its not as hard as I thought it would be, after not eating wheat for a month, I've noticed I can cheat once or twice a week and sometimes not even get a zit.  I love being without congestion so much that I really hardly even miss it.  Since I know I can cheat once or twice a week, I don't feel like I'm hurtin' for it or anything, so this diet didn't turn out to be as hard as I thought it would be, even as a vegetarian.

Oh, and I still do eat as much sugar as I want, and drink a low-caf coffee in the morning.  Neither seems to cause acne at all for me.


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Tell me about that!  My husband is a bbq and steak nut.  It was hard at first to go with him to all-meat restaurants and not order any.  I have gotten used to it though, no matter where I am its my right to order only veggie side dishes if I must!  Surprisingly I haven't gotten any dirty looks from waitresses so far!

Update on the "no grains" for acne diet:
This week's experimenting has confirmed that it seems to have a cumulative effect.  I can cheat a little and not break out, as long as I avoid the wheat mostly (I had had pecan pie for lunch one day - bready crust - and I only got a pimple...no major aching breakout like when I ate breads more frequently).  Its a lot easier knowing I don't have to avoid it like the plague, I can just mostly avoid it, and have some if I really want something.  I can deal with a pimple or two, its the bigger breakouts that start to get me feeling self conscious and depressed.

Edited to add:  I also found that using the proactiv 3 step system once a day, and using the neutrogena bead scrub, witch hazel and regular 10% benzoyl peroxide for the other wash (meaning also once a day), is a great mix!   My skin is much better when I use both systems than it is when I use either alone.  Unfortunately this isn't what I was going for. I was trying to find a cheaper solution that would work as well as proactiv.  I am still working on this too. 






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I do ok with splenda. I only really have it in the ice cream, and in flavored water. I don't bake or anything of tht sort that would require suger/ sugar substitute
 
In the past I have done really well on no red meat. I respond surprisingly good. I have eaten only pultry and sea food, and do great. Hearing about the ph thing, it makes perfect sence.
 
The only down side is, it is now barbeque season, and we normaly barbeque steaks, and porks chops quite a lot.
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Originally posted by Alisa06 Alisa06 wrote:

thank you, Susan, and Karen you have been so helpful.It is good to know about the dairy. I love cheese. Any kind of it. I  don't drink milk to much, but I love ice cream,I thought I had to live without it until my husband brought some home that was made with splenda. I don't have it like I used to (every night) but I feel better knowing I can have it if I really want. 
 
I also try to buy organic when I can. I went through a faze a few years ago where I would only eat raw foods, and organic. My husband thought I had  gone nuts! WinkHe lovingly calls me his health muffin.LOL
 
Ahhhhhh...how sweet...health muffin is very very sweet. 
 
Yes....try different versions to see what works.  Unfortunately Spenda gives me a reaction but I have certainly tried it enough times.  :-)
 
 
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Originally posted by Susan W Susan W wrote:

I have always eaten mushrooms.  I have heard also that they are bad, but I think that's just because they are fungus so people think "how can fungus be good for fungus?"  But I never had any problem with them or with the spirulina drink (which is algae).

You can't eliminate eating any new yeasts from your diet.  I have learned this, that like bacteria yeasts are everywhere and it won't do you any good to peel and scrub every fruit you eat just so you don't eat any more.  Changing the environment of your body is the best way just to keep any you eat from taking over. 

I love, eat and drink lots of dairy.  Even at the point when I gave up ice cream because of the sugar, I never gave up milk (or its sugars).  I can imagine there that someone may think its bad for yeast because there can be a lot of antibiotics in it if you don't buy organic (because they were fed to the cows and chickens and they excrete it).  For this reason, I do always buy organic.  For the Ph diet, dairy is fine though.  Milk, cheese and eggs are all almost neutral as far as what it does for your Ph. 

 
Hi Susan,
 
Well put.  I totally agree.  It is impossible to try and remove everything.  I think you have to do it on a case by case basis or else you will wind up starving.  When I got sick the last time I was down to chicken soup and yogurt (the no sugar added type) and it seemed to work.  Needless to say I was hungry all the time but was worried about adding anything back.  So I did go slowly.  I can not eat mushrooms but can eat cheese.  I can also eat some meat but not others.  Salmon and some fish works great and some ground beef but not steak or fajita meat.  I can also do chicken and turkey. 
 
Since meat is not supposed to be good for the PH balance I am not sure why I don't have problems at this point.
 
I agree that it is an individual issue and that everyone just needs to find what works best for them and go from there.
 
Again...I need to get my body figured out.  Maybe I will after I try long and hard enough.  :-)
 
 
 
 
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thank you, Susan, and Karen you have been so helpful.It is good to know about the dairy. I love cheese. Any kind of it. I  don't drink milk to much, but I love ice cream,I thought I had to live without it until my husband brought some home that was made with splenda. I don't have it like I used to (every night) but I feel better knowing I can have it if I really want. 
 
I also try to buy organic when I can. I went through a faze a few years ago where I would only eat raw foods, and organic. My husband thought I had  gone nuts! WinkHe lovingly calls me his health muffin.LOL
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I have always eaten mushrooms.  I have heard also that they are bad, but I think that's just because they are fungus so people think "how can fungus be good for fungus?"  But I never had any problem with them or with the spirulina drink (which is algae).

You can't eliminate eating any new yeasts from your diet.  I have learned this, that like bacteria yeasts are everywhere and it won't do you any good to peel and scrub every fruit you eat just so you don't eat any more.  Changing the environment of your body is the best way just to keep any you eat from taking over. 

I love, eat and drink lots of dairy.  Even at the point when I gave up ice cream because of the sugar, I never gave up milk (or its sugars).  I can imagine there that someone may think its bad for yeast because there can be a lot of antibiotics in it if you don't buy organic (because they were fed to the cows and chickens and they excrete it).  For this reason, I do always buy organic.  For the Ph diet, dairy is fine though.  Milk, cheese and eggs are all almost neutral as far as what it does for your Ph. 

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Well, doesn't that just take the cake!Confused Thank you so much for you insight and thoughts. I guess I am going to have to re-evaluate my diet. I had been border-line vegetarian most of my life until I started having babies, then my body just screamed for meat. Well with my boys, anyway, with my daughter I had to stay as far away from meat as possible until I figured out to smother it in a sauce.
Before I forget to ask, I had a homeopath tell me to stay away from all dairy, if I was fighting Candida. Is this something you have also found to be true? What other foods have you found to stay away from or are beneficial. I have also heard that mushrooms are a no no.
 
 
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I have always shed a lot since age 15, so I never made any correlations with shedding. 
 
Alisa, this was what I was worried about with what you wrote initially, the Atkins diet actually making yeast worse.  The atkins is similar to the anti-candida diet, and that was what I tried in the 90s before figuring out it actually hurt me by lowering my body's Ph to an acidic environment the yeast loved.  In theory, you'd think it would work, since meat and veggies aren't what yeast eat and carbohydrates and sugar is, but it didn't turn out to work the way they said it would (I was MAD too when I figured that out!  How could they publish a book that was so wrong!)
 
Both of you:  I did take probiotic stuff for awhile too, I took lactobacillus acidophillus in pill form, ate yogurt and raw garlic (I loved it!  My SO in the 90s didn't mind, my husband now does though so I quit that - he even said the odorless garlic pills made me smell too garlicy so I had to quit those).  The raw garlic definitely helped, the yogurt and acidophilus pills - I didn't notice any difference.  I also drank a combination of herbs, including the colloidal silver (I used 10 drops silver twice a day, and I never had any problems from that.  I used it for a year before stopping).  This is what got me through 2004. 
 
Karen, I hope you will be able to avoid the antibiotics in the future...I do remember now that all my problems way back when also started after antibiotics.  I can't state enough how wondrous the turnaround has been for me with the Ph diet.  Now I never get yeast no matter what I eat (thought I'm still veggie) and my only battle now is the occasional acne.  Its so nice to largely do and eat what I want now without fearing problems, or like you said, feeling like I was at war with my own body!  It does take years but its SO worth it to live in health.  I do the same thing with working on myself projects!  I actually have to take a form of penicillin every time I go to the dentist (every 6 months for cleaning) because of a heart condition, but since I've gotten my Ph up, I just eat a yogurt the day after to replenish and I no longer get any trouble from it.  Ph really is so important.  I'm also mad at all the doctors and gynecologists who didn't know that and could never tell me anything that would help me!  Not that they weren't trying to be helpful, I even had one look up my birth control pills when I was on those and she said they were one that was not supposed to cause acne or yeast.  Sometimes we really do just have to figure it out ourselves.   
 
One of you mentioned the lemon and water, that IS a great way to start your day!  Most of the food we consider acidic actually turns your body alkaline, lemon and vinegar are two of those things, so they are both excellent to eat for candida conditions and the Ph diet.  (Like I said, nothing really swings a body alkaline as hard as the bad stuff swings it acid, but eating a lot of the right stuff can help add up).  
 
I am not familiar with the urine test.  I think the Ph of urine is supposed to be around 6?  I could be wrong, but I'm not familiar enough with it to know if that is a good way to test the body's Ph.  I think it might not be because you can make your urine more acid just by taking vitamin c or eating lots of cranberry (things suggested for those with bladder infections), but I don't think those things affect the body's Ph that quickly.  I always used laboratory grade Ph paper (you can probably buy on lab supply websites online) and did the spit test.  My paper ranged from about 4 to 8, with different colors all numbers in between so I only needed the one kind.
 
I do wish you both luck with your health, and I'm glad everyone is posting their experiences.  Hopefully this thread can help other people too. 
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Did one of you say that candida will make you shed more? I believe that this is what I read. I was just going to post about this on the long hair care forum. All winter I have been sheding really badly. I mean REALLY bad. I know you are supposed to loose quite alot of hair daily, but I loose a huge hunk in the shower, and whenever I comb. It is not coming from any one spot, just all over like regular sheding.I am starting to get nervous. I have alot of hair, so it has taken me a while to get nervous,now, I am. I know this is not skin care related, and I am sorry, but do any of you have any suggestions?  
  
 
Yes...candida flareups always makes me start to shed.  Not sure why but it seems to be connected somehow.
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Did one of you say that candida will make you shed more? I believe that this is what I read. I was just going to post about this on the long hair care forum. All winter I have been sheding really badly. I mean REALLY bad. I know you are supposed to loose quite alot of hair daily, but I loose a huge hunk in the shower, and whenever I comb. It is not coming from any one spot, just all over like regular sheding.I am starting to get nervous. I have alot of hair, so it has taken me a while to get nervous,now, I am. I know this is not skin care related, and I am sorry, but do any of you have any suggestions?  
  
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I started the Atkins diet because of a weight issue, but also because of a suspected yeast over growth. I have been struggling for the past several years with an energy problem. I have always been more on the easily fatigues side because of a heart murmur, but this went above and beyond. At first we thought it was because I had 3 kids in  3 1/2 years, and nursed them all until almost 1 yr or over. with my first two,there was a month were I was pregnant and nursing, and did not know it. I ended up with post pardum depression with my 3rd. This started me on a long road of anti-depressants. I eventually ended up in a psychiatrist's office. He in turn sent me to a sleep specialist after watching me for a year. After doing two sleep studies, I was diagnosed with idiopathic hypersomnia. For those of us in the real world, this means unknown sleepiness. I was so sleepy, I was almost diagnosed with narcolepsy. To be diagnose with narcolepsy, you have to all asleep in under 5 min. My average was under 2. I was put on Ritalin, which gave me anxiety. I already had  been diagnosed with an anxiety disorder by my psychiatrist, so this wasn't good. I decided I wanted " heal myself" with as natural means as possible. I have always been intrigued by natural medicine. 

In the middle of all this I developed acne, and chronic sinusitis. I have never had acne, even as a teenager, so I was put on birth control pills, and oral antibiotics.After two years, they quit working, and the meds were changed.My father in law came up with the possibility of a yeast overgrowth. In Jan, when I started the Atkins diet, I also started taking a pro biotic that claims to kill yeast by eating it. After about 3-4 days, I felt like I had the flue! I can honestly say, that I believe he was right. My skin had cleared up, and my energy had gone through the roof. Every now and then , when I forget to take the pro biotic for a few days, or cheat, and eat sugar or flour , I start to get sluggish again, or my skin starts to brake out. 

Karen, I absolutely agree! Eating right along with the supplements is sooooo much worth it in the long run.It takes some time to get into the routine at first, but I feel so much better, that it is like night and day.  
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Originally posted by Susan W Susan W wrote:

 
Karen, Wow, that is terrible!  This is the first time I have heard of penicillin causing acne, but wow, ...terrible!  I wasn't going to bring up the yeast issue, but since it is also a problem for others we may as well talk about it! 
 
I had a big problem with that for years and years, and I was eating lots of meat and no sugar for years (and was very depressed about giving up chocolate and ice cream for years).  I think I gave up sugar around 1996 and was on one of those No Yeast diets which was eating only veggies and meat, and some bread, and drinking only water until about 2001.  In 2001 my problems were so bad, I realized it wasn't working.  (I mostly avoided bread, but not entirely, I did eat plenty of pasta).  All it did was get worse and worse until I was having recurrent yeast infections every TWO WEEKS!  As soon as I cured one, I'd just get another one.  Thank GOD I fixed it, I was getting seriously mentally stressed out and I felt miserable.
 
I learned that body ph being too acid is what caused the yeast overgrowth.  The things that make your body the most acid are meats (especially fish), sugar, flour, alcohol, tea and coffee.  Not only had I already tried giving up sugar, coffee and tea, and almost all alcohol.  Even without those, I was still getting way too acid eating big'ol steaks and pork chops everyday.  I was also on birth control pills.  
 
My Ph is now 6.0.  It would probably be better if I quit the sugar, but not getting any infections was the goal for me, so this is good.  (You are supposed to be around 7.2 they say).
 
If anyone is interested in the Ph diet, you can find charts online that list what different foods do to your body, whether they acidify it or alkalize it.  For the most part fruits and veggies all balance each other out, because most of those don't swing you too far either way.   
 
Oh, and Karen, I do drink Spirutein on occasion, but not that much since I can't get the banana flavor locally anymore (I don't really like any of the other flavors).  That spirulina does seem to help my skin, though I haven't checked the label so see if there are any breads in it yet.  You could check it at the GNC store, they usually sell some flavors. 
 
OMG Susan...you are a lifesaver.  I had not really ever thought about the Ph factors before even though they had been mentioned to me I guess I just dismissed it.
 
I have a confession to make.  All my life I have always "worked on myself".  I always have a "big project" underway.  My projects have included getting my hair totally healthy and down past my waist.  It has included skin, teeth, nails, feet and lots of personal & spiritual growth projects.  I also do practical projects such as learning to get and stay organized and learning to make things.  And so on and so on.
 
I usually have a series of different projects every year and when one is completed to my satisfaction I work on the next one.  I do the same with business which is why HairBoutique.com is constantly changing and everyone who works there has ongoing "projects".  :-)
 
My confession is that I never have figured out, made peace with or co-existed happily with my body.  This is my biggest failed project of all time.  While I understand the issues of what caused my original candida I have never been willing or able to really completely and absolutely either co-exist peacefully or wrestle it to the ground.
 
As a result I have regular outbursts of symptoms includihng skin breakouts and irrational weight gain where I eat healthy but "cheat" with a piece of apple pie and then wake up the next day with 5 extra pounds.  And I eat a small piece...not the entire pie.... 
 
And sometimes when I have a flare-up of candida, everything goes crazy incuding the dreaded bladder and kidney infections, the skin breaking out, the hair shedding (yes candida or related yeast will cause hair shedding) and all sorts of other problems.
 
A naturopathic doctor told me once that you can control candida but once it has overgrown you can never completely get rid of it and he told me that I would have to watch what I ate the rest of my life.
 
That pisses me off.  I think my rebellious Catholic Girl side comes out and I deliberately refuse to stop until I do have an outburst and then I am sick as a dog.
 
The last candida attack which came with the last pencillin motivated me to really try and figure out how to fight it better and after a lot of research I found some things that really really helped kick the candida to the curb.  Yes, eating right (Susan - I love home made bread but it always takes me out) is key.
 
I am definitely going to get some Ph papers.  Does the one you dip in your urine work as well?
 
Things that worked really well with systemic candida:
 
1.  Enzymedica Candidase - This is a different and new enzyme based approach to candida overgrowth because it actually is formulated to help remove candida from the body.  
2.  Yeast Defense by Nutrition Now.
I used to take Candida Cleanse which are tablets.  They worked well but Yeast Defense was spectacular.  It contains all the anti-candida tools such as Caprylic Acidk Pau D. Arco, Deodorized Garlic, Grapefruit Extract Chlorophyll Concentrate and a blend of various Lactobacillus strains.
3.  Collodial Silver.  There is a lot of controvery about this but I took a tiny 1/2 teaspoon a day and it really helped me a lot.
4.  Country Life Power Dophilus.  It is milk free.  It says to take 1-3 tablets with meals but I took it 3x a day and I could really feel it working.
5.  Fresh lemon in warm water (use a straw to protect your teeth) in the morning to kick up the liver and get the immune system going to fight off the bacteria.  This might not be such a good thing if you are having bladder problems because it might cause burning but if not...it works really well.
6.  Magnesium powder drinks.  This seems to actually help my skin glow. 
7.  Crystal water - Souley - which also helps balance the body.
8.  Pau D Arco tea.  
 
Since I had to give up coke, soda, coffee (so sad) wine, beer and champagne (one of my favs) and margaritas (so pop here in Dallas) and resort to water and smart water (I drink the generic kind that is less expensive that you can get at Whole Foods) I started drinking Pau D Arco and taking it with me.  It actually tastes OK after you get used to it and it helps keep the candida down.
 
I hope that helps anyone who struggles with candida related skin problems or the other dreaded issues.
 
I also noticed that when I take all the pills faithfully I have more energy and sleep better.
 
Unfortunately some of the supplements are pricey but if you shop carefully online you can find them on sale sometimes.  I realized that the last candida outbreak cost me several days of work and extra visits to the acupunturist for pain so buying the supplements and eating right will balance out the extra expense for me.
 
Finally...sorry this is so long...I hope you will all continue to post on this topic because my current project is finally figuring out how to deal with my body and being willing to try and eat right.  This is a hard one for me so thanks for all the help and support. 
That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger or drives you totally insane. :-)
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Originally posted by Alisa06 Alisa06 wrote:

Wow, what a great subject. I love anything that has to do with nutrition and your skin,nails, hair,etc.  
 
Karen, have you tried goats protein? I know Garden of Life is a really good company. I have tried quite a few of their products. I have not tried the protein shake, but everything else is really good.
 
Hi Alisa,
 
No...I have not tried goat's protein but I am going to check it out.  It sounds good.  Do you get it at Whole Foods or online?
 
Yesterday I bought Earth's Promise - Green Taste Life -Strawberry Kiwi.  I have not had the courage to drink it yet because it just sound yucky but it has lots of good "stuff in it".
 
As I type this I am sitting here with my Karin Herzog weekly skin mask.  It  has a lot of oxygen and it really seems to make my skin feel soft.  I really don't like to try products that are not mostly natural but sometimes those don't work as well and I have to step back into the more traditional formulations. 
 
I resisted Herzog for awhile but my facialist has the most gorgeous skin I have ever seen and she is in her 40s and only uses that product line after testing just about everything.  She finally converted me because that is what she uses on me.
 
I was concerned it would cause my candida to go crazy but actually the oxygen kills candida so it is a double win.
 
Raw honey on my skin used to work so great as a softener but it did cause candida reactions.
 
Thanks again for the tip on goat's protein.  I will let you know how the Earth's Promise work out.
 
 
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