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Topic: Make Your Own Weft
Posted By: misslou
Subject: Make Your Own Weft
Date Posted: May 01 2006 at 6:16pm
http://www.cely.com/doll/weft.html

this LOOKS like it would work... and i love sewing.... has anyone tried this?  would it be a secure enough weft on a human?


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what I'm wearing: 1 pkg 18" DLux SS #2 and protac



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Posted By: Divavocals
Date Posted: May 01 2006 at 7:11pm
Short answer?? Nope.. But I like the way you think..  Sewing macine needles are sharp, and will cut the hair as you're stitching..

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Posted By: misslou
Date Posted: May 01 2006 at 7:20pm
even the ball-point ones?  ball-point needles are blunt tipped and meant to slide between the threads in fabric, rather than piercing it.  when sewing tricot or fine knits, a regular needle will cut the threads and snag them, leaving a ravelly mess, while the ball-points just slide in and seperate.

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what I'm wearing: 1 pkg 18" DLux SS #2 and protac


Posted By: Naked Eye
Date Posted: May 01 2006 at 8:54pm
hmm, I would like to know too, I really want to make my own wefts, if I
am feeling adventuras in the next few weeks I might buy some cheap bulk
BSS hair and try it just to see....


Posted By: elvira
Date Posted: May 01 2006 at 9:12pm

They have special machines with three different heads and it takes quite a bit of skill I'm told. I'm in the process now of making my own skin wefts. I've been doing alot of homework and ordered different supplies to experiment. There is a wig school in Korea, anybody up for a road trip?

 

 

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Posted By: misslou
Date Posted: May 01 2006 at 11:09pm
naked eye: let me know how it turns out, if you try to make a weft.  my machine's in serious need of a tune-up so it'll be a month before i can try.  also: i'd recommend using the upholstery needle since it won't degrade with wear and washing.

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what I'm wearing: 1 pkg 18" DLux SS #2 and protac


Posted By: Divavocals
Date Posted: May 02 2006 at 1:14am
Originally posted by misslou misslou wrote:

even the ball-point ones?  ball-point needles are blunt tipped and meant to slide between the threads in fabric, rather than piercing it.  when sewing tricot or fine knits, a regular needle will cut the threads and snag them, leaving a ravelly mess, while the ball-points just slide in and seperate.
Yep.. been there.. tried that.. I sew too.. (well at least I used to.. no time anymore.. *sigh**) Used to try and use my sewing machine to seal wefts to prevent shedding.. Upholstery needs, ball point needles.. yep they all will cut or damage the hair.. To create wefts, there is special equipment and needles that they use to create machine wefts..

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Posted By: misslou
Date Posted: May 02 2006 at 7:43am
darn.... and i got all excited there for a moment.  darn. 

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what I'm wearing: 1 pkg 18" DLux SS #2 and protac


Posted By: Naked Eye
Date Posted: May 02 2006 at 7:55am
Darn! Me too!


Posted By: mslady
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 11:03am
Divavocals--Girl you know everything when it comes to weaves.  If you ever find a way for us to make wefts don't forget to post.


Posted By: Kalika
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 8:47pm
It's meant for doll hair.  Doll hair is not washed and combed everyday.  I'm sure it would shed like a mofo.


Posted By: BirdOfEden
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 12:20pm
I saw that website a few months ago and have been meaning to try it, but have been to busy.   I wonder where we could get the right kind of needles for it?  If anyone finds a source, let us know!!  I'l love to be able to make one thick weft instead of having to triple up single wefts.   And it would be awesome to double over the entire length so there would be no beard!  
 
In the meantime, here's a link for making handtied wefts!   Crap, I saved the webpage to my hard drive and don't know the link.   Let me search..... Crap, well I can't find the original link, but here's the exact same tutorial here:  http://www.mhrw.com/weft_technique.html - http://www.mhrw.com/weft_technique.html   Though it looks a LOT more complicated than making a machine weft, and I'd be afraid it would shed.  
 
Elvira, you are making skin wefts?  I was researching that and very interested in trying, but never went very far with it because I got busy.  Where can you order supplies from?


Posted By: elvira
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 6:39pm

Quote Elvira, you are making skin wefts?  I was researching that and very interested in trying, but never went very far with it because I got busy.  Where can you order supplies from?

 
 
The first thing I did was find out that the rubbery material that on the skin part of the weft
is called thin mono-mesh based with poly coat.
     I thought that the lace front materials that are used must be similar to the skin weft
material. Here are the different materials used for lace fronts:
Polyurethane
This is used as a border to create a better form. Polyurethane can come in three different
thickness': light, medium or heavy.
PU See Thru
This is the clearest version of P.U. you can use. Unfortunately, it also is the weakest in terms of
hair loss, since the hair has no mesh to knot to. This is typically used in the front section.
Glass Silk
This is the same as P.U. See Thru, except is has silk embedded into it so the hair has something to
tie into. This also appears daily see thru and will hold up as far as hair loss is concerned.
Coated Polyurethane
This is the least see thru of all the polyurethane's. It also is the most durable and the thickest
to the feel.
M- Mesh
Monofilament means that each hair or fiber is hand tied into an ultra fine sheer mesh base. When
looking down into a monofilament top, the hair appears to be growing out of the scalp. Monofilament
is the best base available. Monofilament wigs or hairpieces can be styled in any direction you
desire, providing the styling versatility of real hair ... the ultimate way to look and feel your
best every day!
T- Mesh
A single layer of soft hexagon polyester.
 
Welded P-Mesh
Can be 1/8" or 1/4" in the front to create a soft edge.
DTU Folded Lace
Is a soft 1/8" polyester mesh folded on the front edge.
 
 
A few sites where the materials can be found-I have more too.
http://www.hairdirect.com/resources/base-construction.aspx - http://www.hairdirect.com/resources/base-construction.aspx
http://www.texindex.com/Tradeleads/detail.asp?Id=103490 - http://www.texindex.com/Tradeleads/detail.asp?Id=103490
http://www.klattermusen.se/km_sidor/materials.asp - http://www.klattermusen.se/km_sidor/materials.asp
http://www.polyurethanedirectory.com/Results.aspx?query=Polyurethane - http://www.polyurethanedirectory.com/Results.aspx?query=Polyurethane
 
So I went to a couple of stores to find the materials but not a fabric store yet like Joanns Fabric.
I bought a couple of the needles they use to do the lace fronts (they are so small I can barely see them!)
I have several different projects going, as I'm sure most of us do, and would slack off, and then go back to it. The funniest thing happened when I was going through some old clothes to donate, I pulled out a bag with some brand new nylons still in the package. They were the thigh highs with the elastic bands. OK I realize most of you have no idea what I'm talking about, and those that do, are laughing. Sure enough, the material used on top of the thigh highs is the exact same as the skin wefts!!!!!!
 
 I was so excited about my find and now I'm at the stage, OK, now what do I do? I even tried my laminator but that's another story. So this is another work in progress! I'll keep you posted on my finds.


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Posted By: Kalika
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 3:18am
elvira:  Thank you so much for expirementing for us!


Posted By: Divavocals
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 3:28am
Originally posted by mslady mslady wrote:

Divavocals--Girl you know everything when it comes to weaves.  If you ever find a way for us to make wefts don't forget to post.
I'm all for saving a buck and all, but when it comes to making wefts, I will defer to the experts at Extension Plus.. I'm considering getting some of that Asian remy that Kalika got, and having EP weft it for me..

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Posted By: elvira
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 7:00am
Kalika, your welcome! I'm just having fun!

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Posted By: AfroPuffs
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 8:23am
Elvira,
Do you have to sew the hair to the PU?  Is there a way to glue it to make a skin weft?


Posted By: elvira
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 2:09pm
Quote Elvira,
Do you have to sew the hair to the PU?  Is there a way to glue it to make a skin weft?
 
That's a good question Afropuffs! I tried ironing,steam,laminating, but haven't tried the sewing part of it yet. What it looks like to me, is that they hand tied it like they do with the lacefronts. I do have the needles but I think that I need to do a little more research and find out exactly how it is done. It could also be that they put it all together by first the material, then the hair (bulk) and then coat it with the PU. That's what I'm thinking anyways. I'm going to give it a shot right now and I'll post pics as soon as I'm done.


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Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 2:30pm
Dang, girl... I like your style! I'm always looking at something and thinking, there's got to be a way to do that... then going apesh*t trying to figure it out and find a way to make it. I know exactly what you mean about the stuff on the top of thigh-highs. It is also the stuff they put on the inside of strapless bras to kind of stick them to your sides so the bras don't slip. Please please let us know how this process comes out!    

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Posted By: elvira
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 10:42pm

OK, I made a little movie clip and it takes forever to edit. I'll post it soon, I'm almost done.



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Posted By: kateadreena
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 9:48am
LOL
Originally posted by elvira elvira wrote:

Quote Elvira, you are making skin wefts?  I was researching that and very interested in trying, but never went very far with it because I got busy.  Where can you order supplies from?

 
 
The first thing I did was find out that the rubbery material that on the skin part of the weft
is called thin mono-mesh based with poly coat.
     I thought that the lace front materials that are used must be similar to the skin weft
material. Here are the different materials used for lace fronts:
Polyurethane
This is used as a border to create a better form. Polyurethane can come in three different
thickness': light, medium or heavy.
PU See Thru
This is the clearest version of P.U. you can use. Unfortunately, it also is the weakest in terms of
hair loss, since the hair has no mesh to knot to. This is typically used in the front section.
Glass Silk
This is the same as P.U. See Thru, except is has silk embedded into it so the hair has something to
tie into. This also appears daily see thru and will hold up as far as hair loss is concerned.
Coated Polyurethane
This is the least see thru of all the polyurethane's. It also is the most durable and the thickest
to the feel.
M- Mesh
Monofilament means that each hair or fiber is hand tied into an ultra fine sheer mesh base. When
looking down into a monofilament top, the hair appears to be growing out of the scalp. Monofilament
is the best base available. Monofilament wigs or hairpieces can be styled in any direction you
desire, providing the styling versatility of real hair ... the ultimate way to look and feel your
best every day!
T- Mesh
A single layer of soft hexagon polyester.
 
Welded P-Mesh
Can be 1/8" or 1/4" in the front to create a soft edge.
DTU Folded Lace
Is a soft 1/8" polyester mesh folded on the front edge.
 
 
A few sites where the materials can be found-I have more too.
http://www.hairdirect.com/resources/base-construction.aspx - http://www.hairdirect.com/resources/base-construction.aspx
http://www.texindex.com/Tradeleads/detail.asp?Id=103490 - http://www.texindex.com/Tradeleads/detail.asp?Id=103490
http://www.klattermusen.se/km_sidor/materials.asp - http://www.klattermusen.se/km_sidor/materials.asp
http://www.polyurethanedirectory.com/Results.aspx?query=Polyurethane - http://www.polyurethanedirectory.com/Results.aspx?query=Polyurethane
 
So I went to a couple of stores to find the materials but not a fabric store yet like Joanns Fabric.
I bought a couple of the needles they use to do the lace fronts (they are so small I can barely see them!)
I have several different projects going, as I'm sure most of us do, and would slack off, and then go back to it. The funniest thing happened when I was going through some old clothes to donate, I pulled out a bag with some brand new nylons still in the package. They were the thigh highs with the elastic bands. OK I realize most of you have no idea what I'm talking about, and those that do, are laughing. Sure enough, the material used on top of the thigh highs is the exact same as the skin wefts!!!!!!
 
 I was so excited about my find and now I'm at the stage, OK, now what do I do? I even tried my laminator but that's another story. So this is another work in progress! I'll keep you posted on my finds.
 
i have mental images of your hair laborotory and you in a white suit and magnifying glasses trying to laminate human hair!! LOL


Posted By: nomorebaldie
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 11:51pm
I took some extra lush shoelaces, lined them up, and used silicon fabric glue (it gives and doesn't dry stiff) to create a 1/2 inch  top.  Then I trimmed it down to a nice tiny straight line, and waa laa! A homemade flexible weft. Not good enough, so I doubled the hair (meaning I put another layer on top of the first,) put another 1/2 inch top and then trimmed this one down to a nice flat straight line on the top.  Then I used liquid gold and sandwiched it for extra hold.  I swear the piece looks like it is growing from the part.  The edge is not thick because I used a sharp metal edge to make it lay flat while it was drying.  It has been washed about three times and has not turned cloudy, and is holding as well as when I used a plain weft with LG  no shedding either.  I did release one with the shrinkies remover because I was afraid I would have to explain this one to the hairdresser, and it came right out.  Let you know.  Char


Posted By: BirdOfEden
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 11:59pm

I wonder if you could use the fabric glue with bulk hair.   Excuse me if this sound ludicris, I've had a few glasses of wine!



Posted By: Divavocals
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 12:24am
Originally posted by nomorebaldie nomorebaldie wrote:

I took some extra lush shoelaces, lined them up, and used silicon fabric glue (it gives and doesn't dry stiff) to create a 1/2 inch  top.  Then I trimmed it down to a nice tiny straight line, and waa laa! A homemade flexible weft. Not good enough, so I doubled the hair (meaning I put another layer on top of the first,) put another 1/2 inch top and then trimmed this one down to a nice flat straight line on the top.  Then I used liquid gold and sandwiched it for extra hold.  I swear the piece looks like it is growing from the part.  The edge is not thick because I used a sharp metal edge to make it lay flat while it was drying.  It has been washed about three times and has not turned cloudy, and is holding as well as when I used a plain weft with LG  no shedding either.  I did release one with the shrinkies remover because I was afraid I would have to explain this one to the hairdresser, and it came right out.  Let you know.  Char
 
 
What's the brand of the silicone fabric glue??


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Posted By: asinnamon
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 6:32pm
nomorebaldie - what a great idea!!  Do you have any pictures??  I have lots of pretips I would like to weft....


Posted By: elvira
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 9:07pm
Since July 11 I have been working on my stupid movie clip drama/soap opera of the works of duplicating the Chinese skin weft! I have spent tons of hours editing and remaking it. I had so many issues with it not formatting it right and I must have made about 7 movies in all of the same thing with varied versions. I was peeing my pants laughing so hard I thought it was so funny and I couldn't wait for all you to see it. Only you forum members would think it was funny. Then every time I edited it, it would get mixed in with a previous version! GRRRRRRRRR! By the time I'm done with it, it won't be as funny. Timing is everything! I'm bummed but I'm not giving up!
 
Nomorebaldie (love the name!) Sounds better than my thigh high pantyhose experiment! I can't envision it at the moment, but I am dying to see it! Congrats!


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Posted By: nomorebaldie
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 6:03pm

Baldie here:

 

I used Aileens super flexible fabric tacky glue.  I also tried  Breetons silicon fabric glue and it is pretty good too, although it seems to have some oil base to it.  The aileens is really holding up well, I made a couple of more 3inch wefts put the hair in a clamp to get a supet thin edge, glue applied, dried and glued on with liquid gold.  I have applied one weft on the other side with the same alileens glue to see how it holds to the actual hair itself.  I will let you know.  I know there is some miracle glue out there.  Has anyone tried clear caulk yet?  Char



Posted By: elvira
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 9:07pm

Baldie, what are lush shoelaces? I can't envision it because I don't know what they are.

I have tried glue dots, you name it! But I did come across a couple of glues and tapes that are new to me, I pretipped a few strands and then washed them. Tomorrow I will install a couple and let you know.

Has anyone heard of a serger machine? I saw one for the first time and it has three spools on it, and the Chinese use sewing machines with three spools for lace fronts so I was just wondering ..


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Posted By: asinnamon
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 9:17pm
A serger is a special sewing machine that sews your seam, "seals" it and I believe cuts it.  Take a look at the seams inside your jeans, in particular the legs & inseam.  They will not look like typical straight stitch and it be on the edge of the fabric.  I'm not sure if they use the same needles as a conventional machine?? 


Posted By: nomorebaldie
Date Posted: June 19 2006 at 10:18pm
Hi Elvira:
 
That NO MORE BALDIE to you Miss Thang. You know, the shoelaces are just the single extensions that are predone for you to use with shrinkies or rings.  I just cut off the end and make a weft out of them.  It would be like using bulk hair but I just used some leftover stuff I had.  I have been making 3 inch wefts and I swear they are holding up really well.   There is no weft except for the small flexible silicone glue at the edge.  Then I attach them with liquid gold.  I've had them on for about two weeks now and I am more please with these than any other system I've tried (pro-tape gets me and Dunebug about a week), shrinkies, etc.  I'm not sold on those skin wefts yet, I think we are going to hit the big one one of these days for the perfect hair/application.  Then we're  going to be on Oprah or somethink hokey like that.  Keep plugging Elvira, I'm with you in the chemist lab!!!
 
Baldie,   um I mean nomorebaldie  


Posted By: Kalika
Date Posted: June 20 2006 at 1:26pm

No More Baldie:  how does the silicone glue hold up against acetone or an orange oil remover?  Im just wondering if you can reuse the wefts.




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