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    Posted: August 03 2004 at 3:34pm
I am looking for some advise..........my 8 year old daughter has grown her hair out to about her mid back and loves her long blonde hair. The problem is that is is always tangled!!! I try to brush it serveral times a day but it still knots up. She really doesn't like to wear it up. We use a seperate conditioner on it, but I don't know what else to do. I can sit down and brush it and then run the brush right back through it before she ever gets up and there will be more tangles!!! Please help!!!! I don't want to cut it but I don't see any other solution. She loves her hair and has begged me not to cut it but I hate how looks ALL the time.

Any advise would be greatly appreciated!!!
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wet the hair then brush her hair, or as my mum would say start from the bootom and work ur way up. Is her hair layed at all. Or maybe feathered

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I think this has to do with the conditioner your daughter is using. Some people's hair does not react well to the majority of conditioners, especially if the hair is fine to babyfine. Damage can also be a culprit. Try rotating conditioners and noting the change(s) in result, or there are also many detangling sprays out there on the market.

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Personally, I'd have it cut, but if you don't want to do that what about having it thinned out- that way there would be less of it to tangle, but it would be the same length. Also, are there a lot of split ends? Could a trim on these be what is needed?
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Nooo!!! Please don't cut your daughter's hair if she adores having it long! : ) There are ways to control tangling without resorting to a short cut.

Hair, on a microscopic level, is like a roof with scaly shingles. Try having her use cold water to rinse out her conditioner. A cold rinse helps close up the "shingles" and make them lie flat. This will reduce the friction at least a bit.

Damaged hair also tangles easily, so if there is any chance your daughter's hair could be damaged, don't try any chemical treatments just to be sure.
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Maybe try spraying a leave in conditioner or detangler in her hair? Infusium works nicely. Don't cut her hair if you can help it. :) Good luck!
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Have you tried braided styles, just one in the back or two, one under each ear, with some sweet bows? It´s really pretty on a little girl, the length still shows, but the tresses are more in control. Give her some time to get used to different dos, if she understands that the future of her hair depends on it, maybe she´ll give it a shot. Chances are, she´ll prefer a braid or two to the constant brushing and detangling. And it won´t be in her face while she is playing.

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Thank you for all of the suggestions. She does have some split ends ......... I think that maybe they are actually breaks from trying to brush out the tangles. Her hair is thick but also fine (until it gets past her shoulders it won't stay up in anything). I have tried several detangling sprays but they leave her hair looking greasy. I can remember when her hair was just above her shoulders it was so silky and smooth. I still use the same shampoo but have tried several seperate conditioners. I also that maybe a trim would fix the problem but it didn't.

Could any of you suggest a conditioner that works for you or maybe a leaving or spray that won't leave your hair greasy looking?

Thanks for all the help!!!
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oh I forgot to add that her hair is all one length.......no layers, feathers, bangs, anything just long and striaght
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I can think of the Suave Professionals line off the top of my head. It gives me tangle-free slick results. But your daughter has fine hair, so I can't guarantee the same results as my coarse tresses.

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I use Pantene Pro-V, and I have very fine hair.

Well, actually, I use a series of conditioners, and Pantene Pro-V is the last one before getting out of the shower.


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I am no hair expert, but have had relatively long hair all my life. It's on the finer side but very thick and I have always had trouble with tangles and products that either leave my hair greasy looking or so dry that my hair feels like straw. Some things you can try:

Try using a wide tooth comb instead of a brush and only comb her hair when it's wet/towel dry (don't brush wet - only comb!). Most kids don't wash their hair daily, so invest in a good, big spray bottle (You can find good ones at Home Depot or Ace type places) and mist her hair with water until it's slightly wetter than damp all the way through. Then comb out starting from the bottom and working your way up in short strokes. It helps to do it in sections. You can try adding a squirt of conditioner to the water (shake it thoroughly to combine) and that might help with the tangles.

Before you start combing, you can try products that are meant to make the hair separate like Bumble and Bumble Styling Creme (oops - wrong name - it's called "Brilliantine"). It's expensive stuff, but you only need less than a dime size dab. A small tube has lasted me months. Rub it between your fingers and then gently run your fingers through her hair starting at the base of her scalp on down. You can do a little in front too if her hair gets tangled there too. This should help "tame" the hair.

A lot of hair care has been trial and error for me. You just have to keep trying different techniques until something works. I have to use styling products on my hair or it's just unruly. This means I end up washing it daily otherwise it looks like crap the next day. I've done this since I was about 12.

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More tips:

When you wash her hair, rub the shampoo between your hands a bit before you put it on her head, then work it into the roots massaging the scalp with the pads of your fingers. Let the lather/suds run down her hair but don't actively wash the hair below the scalp. Rubbing the length of her hair together can cause damage and more tangles. When you rinse the hair, rinse the shampoo out so that it works its way down through the ends. This will be enough "cleaning" for the ends of the hair.

Use a conditioner that's for dry hair or color damaged hair (more moisture) and apply from the tops of her ears on down. Don't rub it in like shampoo, just run your fingers through her hair like a comb to distribute the conditioner. Leave it in for a few minutes and then rinse.

It helps to have one of those hand held type shower heads so you can have good control over the spray of water.

When you towel dry the hair, just wrap the towel around the hair and squeeze the water out. Don't rub the towel over her head, and don't rub the hair inbetween the towel.

These techniques can help prevent tangles.
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When I was your daughter's age, and a little older, I had long hair - by the time Mum gave up trying to look after it and I had it cut, it was long enough that I could sit on it.

It tangled horribly, and nothing Mum did seemed to help. Every time she washed it, she'd spend about two hours trying to get the tangles out. I wore it plaited all the time, which helped to avoid tangles between washes, but it didn't prevent them totally.

Now I'm growing my hair again, and learning ways to avoid the tangle problem. In addition to a lot of advice the others have given you, most of which I do, I take extra care to avoid doing anything that will tangle my hair. I very rarely use shampoo - I find conditioner gets my hair clean on its own - and if I do feel the need to shampoo my scalp, I smother the length of my hair with conditioner first to protect it from the drying effects of the shampoo. I try to avoid combing unless my hair is wet and has conditioner in it, and I avoid brushing altogether. Recently I've started mixing honey with my conditioner because I find this gives my hair extra "slip". I avoid towel drying altogether, and get the water out of my hair by gently squeezing and running my fingers through it. Then I leave it to dry naturally. (I find my hair's at its most vulnerable to tangles while it's drying, so if your daughter will let you plait it while it's still wet, that would probably be a good thing.) I don't use a leave in conditioner because I can't find one that doesn't make my hair sticky (and exacerbate the tangle problem), but I do put a little almond oil on my hair when it's still wet after washing.

I hope some of this helps.

Louise

Edited to add: You asked for conditioner recommendations. I use Aveda on my hair. The conditioner I use (Sap Moss) is probably too rich for your daugher's hair, but their Rosemary and Mint conditioner is very gentle and light and not too expensive, and it's a fantastic detangler. I often use it in place of shampoo to wash my hair, and follow it with the Sap Moss.
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Originally posted by red blur red blur wrote:

I am no hair expert...

Red Blur! You sell yourself short.

In fact, you are among a lot of knowledgeable people who have shared your wisdom here with lexie's mom. A friend of mine has a daughter who is 8 (?). Tangles seem to be an issue for many young girls, since they haven't yet learned how to care for their own hair. As Viktoria first suggested, braiding into any number of cute styles is an excellent solution.

So, lexie's mom... how is your daugher's hair doing these days?
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Her hair sounds like mine. Is it fine-textured? The only thing to do is trim the ends often, and use a gentle shampoo and good conditioner. Then a spray-on leave-in conditioner after that. I like infusiom 23.

Of course, letting it blow in the wind is asking for trouble.

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Have you tried "No More Tangles" detangler from Johnson & Johnson? I use it after I wash my hair, or on other days to reduce tangle. It's worked very well for me.
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Quote Red Blur! You sell yourself short.


You're very kind. :)

Helps when you've been experimenting on tangles for nearly 20 years, eh?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DaveDecker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2004 at 9:27pm
Originally posted by red blur red blur wrote:

Helps when you've been experimenting on tangles for nearly 20 years, eh?

Eh, yep. I've got a dozen years of practice now... I've learned a lot in that time!
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I love Aussie Knot Forgotten. My hair is thick, so it tangles even when it's above my shoulders! But this product practically works miracles for me.

I also use Johnson's No More Tangles detangler spray (in Strawberry Sensation). Mmmm...
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