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    Posted: December 14 2004 at 2:49pm
okay, for any of you with hairlocs know-how, what would you think if, at your installation, the hair you got wasn't prebonded? instead, the tech and her assistants were "spinning" (or tipping the strands) as they put them in, while you were paying their $200-plus hourly rate for them to do this? would that hair have been brand-new hairlocs hair? does the company manufacturer it this way, then the stylists tip it? what if some of it was straight and some of it was wavy when applied—would some of it had been used and washed before, maybe?

and what would you think if a few days later, those tipped srands were weakening to the point where lots of individual strands of extensions hair were just unraveling from the tips, and lots of the bonds were slipping out competetly? and what if, when the locs came out, the top parts were separated, damp and green, and the glue part had pretty much disintegrated.

and what would you think if instead of replacing them with new, fresh locs, your tech just moved them up and put the old green ones back in your head? is copper meant to last that long or to be reclamped?

thanks for your input.
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Whoa! This is not good.

I'm speechless. Post that stylist's name/salon/location.

This is one of the most blatant rip offs I've ever heard of.
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i'm sure you already know the name---hint: it begins with "k". is this not the way hairlocs are supposed to be done? does the company sell the hair nonbonded and prebonded, or just prebonded? i really dont know if shes with hairlocs anymore but she said she was with them when she did my head.
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So we've established that Kimarie and her minions tipped bulk hair with fusion glue while her client sat in the chair and paid them $200 an hour as they passed this off as a Hairlocs installation. Man, that is seriously messed up.

No, Hairlocs is not sold this way. Hairlocs is pre-tipped. That is the whole concept behind their product - it's pre-tipped and ready to go inside their clamps.

Hair that was different textures doesn't necessarily mean it was washed or worn before. Now, combine that with hair that is being tipped as you wait and some is wavy and some isn't COULD mean this was hair that had been previously worn and was salvaged for later use. I know some stylists keep these strands in the salon in a "hair bank" for their customers. It's very well possible this was abandoned hair that was used on you. The ONLY way real Hairlocs hair would lose its tip is if it was worn before or someone cut it off. The latter makes no sense.

Moving them up and closing them with the same clamp is standard Hairlocs procedure. It's one of their selling points. They claim it takes less time and there's no complete takedown of the hair. What "no complete takedown" means is that you'll never see your whole head without extensions and you'll never be able to determine all the damage that's going on.

Moving the clamp up over green hair is also standard Hairlocs procedure. The company and their stylists claim this is "normal" and causes "no problem" and it just "washes off."

Problem is - nobody washes it off because the same corrosion causing clamps get pushed right back over the top of it and your REAL hair is trapped under there with it.

If the copper is eroding, what do you think it's doing to your real hair? It's helping break down the structure of your own hair and it's snapping it off underneath the clamp is what's happening. I've posted pictures right here on this forum showing that.

Info on copper in your hair: http://www.aquasol.com/greenhair.htm

That turquoise blue/green color is a major signal things are breaking down.

The strands falling apart and shedding is just poor craftsmanship on the part of those stylists.

Just when you think you've heard the worst story imaginable, along comes something like this.
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As much as I love Jenn and the insight that she provides, unfortunately there are even worse stories then hers. I know because I'm living it!
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More proof the copper stained green tips cause damage all the way into the cuticle of the hair. Since your own hair is inside the copper Hairlocs shells, your own cuticles are getting eaten away which is what causes the breakage so many hairlocs users complain of.

Read it for yourself:

http://www.keratin.com/ai/ai009ref004.shtml

Stylists may be able to pawn off the damage to the individual, blaming it on in home care but these copper locks could be the ticket for a class action lawsuit against the Hairlocs company itself.

Big money there people. Big big money. If I was a Hairlocs stylist, I'd hang it up and try a different method.

For all those with green tips - take photos of it. Keep those pictures and keep the receipt of your Hairlocs installations.
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If anyone is planning on organzing a class action lawsuit, count me in...any day, any time. I have lost a good portion of my hair from hairlocs. Tonight I'll be taking them out and we'll really see how bad it is, but I can tell you that there is a lot of my hair missing now and they are still in.
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One more insight to add to the hairlocs nightmare: Did you notice that "gia" (on another thread) said that hairlocs could damage the hair if the hair was colored 72 hours prior to installation:
"There is a reason why a clients hair could be damaged during an application and that is if that client has recently(within 72hours) had their hair serviced:colored/permed/straightened. These services leave your hair suspetible to breakage until the cuticle has closed and hardened."

I, for one, was never informed of this, and many hairlocs stylists offer coloring as a part of their service, so none of this makes sense. Furthermore, the company says that you can color your hair or roots while you have them in. My stylist even suggested a straightening treatment while I was wearing them!

I'm not a dermatologist, but I don't think gia's description of the hair cuticle opening, closing, and hardening is not quite accurate. Anyone know anything about cuticles? I thought it was more like this: http://www.pg.com/science/haircare/hair_twh_72.htm and once the hair cuticles are lifted, they really can't be effectively "closed" again.
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Has anyone who has had a problem with a hairlocs stylist or the system called the company directly so that they are aware of these problems?

The owner of Hairlocs is aware there have been some complaints about one stylists in particular and is open and willing to hear what has happened to rectify any problems.

Please call, email, fax a letter, by whichever means necessary so that she can get details as to the problems occuring. These problems could have been caused by inexperienced or negligent stylists.

These problems need to be directed to the company so they can intervene and offer assistance to clients who have paid to have a high end service done.

Maria Arroyo, is the owner and inventor of Hairlocs and would like to hear of those who have misrepresented or misused her product.

Thank You
Fax:818-506-0902
phone:(877) 395-6136
email: worldinfo@hairlocs.com
email: hairlocsinc@aol.com
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