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    Posted: February 27 2005 at 10:23am
I had extensions (synth) put in for the first time a few days ago to sort out a stupid short hair mistake. Anyway the girl who was doing it said that because my hair has been bleached and then dyed red again it isn't very strong, plus it is only about 5-6cm at the longest so for now I can only have short extensions - so I have a bob. Which I am okay about, but I would like to go longer.

My questions are:
1. was she right about keeping my extensions short for now?
2. stupid this, but do synth extensions fade in the sun?
3. how difficult and expensive is it to do your own extensions? That really appeals and a lot women on here seem to be doing their own.

I am going to be sticking with extensions for a while until my natural hair grows out, so thanks to anyone who bothers to read this and reply.
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Hey Sarah,

Do you know what kind of synth it is? Is it monofiber, like ProStyles, Dome, Trimco, or PlastikHaar?

1. It's hard to say without seeing your hair, but sometimes the shorter styles blend better with shorter hair and are easier to maintain. I do think, however, if you wanted a layered style, that would certainly be possible. Again, it's hard to say without seeing your hair.
2. I don't think the colors fade in the sun (although I could be wrong), but the shine does fade after a few washes.
3. It all depends. Some techniques, such as extendtubes, shrinkies, or pretipped fusion, are pretty easy for a beginner to learn. It also helps if you have someone to assist you with the back of your head, although you could do it yourself. Other techniques, such as heat sealing or pinchbraids, are a lot trickier to learn, imo. Hand fusion would fall somewhere in between. As far as expense, it all depends on what you want, but high-quality synth hair is very inexpensive (from $40 to $60 for your whole head, including shipping); start-up supplies for shrinkies (including the pretipping glue) would probably run you about $150; for extendtubes, around $100. There are ways to cut corners and do this even cheaper, but that's a general guide anyway.

For a list of tutorials and sellers, check out the Extensions 101 and Bridget threads at the top of the page.

Good luck! :)


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Hi Jenny_RR,
Thanks for the quick reply!
The girl who did my hair wasn't exactly talkative but I think it is monofiber. That's why I would rather do it myself if possible, I can have it the way I want it, you know? The cost aspect as well, the salon was ridiculously expensive for what they did and they were not keen to answer my questions.

I will study the threads and links you suggested. I don't know about posting 'photos, I am really reluctant to do that on an open forum, but then again it's difficult for people to give advice when they can't see me!
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Yeah, you can always post photos of the back of your head or white out your face or something. Or, you can just point us toward some Internet photos that look like your hair.

Do you know what method the salon used? How much did they charge?

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Good idea about the photos, I will try and find some photos of hair like mine.

The girl at the salon glued the extensions in with a glue-gun thingy, sorry I don't know what the method is called though, I am still a bit dense when it comes to extensions, but I am trying to learn! I have been reading on the thread about shrinkies and they seem to be the way to go for DIY or am I wrong?

The extensions were a birthday present a couple of days ago so I don't know exactly what they cost, but I have had enough hints to know it was a lot!
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Yeah, I think shrinkies or extendtubes are both good choices for DIY, and there's plenty of info. here, including tutorials, for each technique. Shinkies have the advantage of being a bit more undectable, plus you have a little more flexibility with the pretipping because the shrinks are large enough and flexible enough to shrink to size. You should make sure to do test strands first, though, for best results. Good luck! :)
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heres the thing that gets me....they tell you that you cant have longer length becuase your hair is bleached, dyed and isnt very strong, yet use a fusion method to attach extensions?
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It seems strange to me, too. In fact, I didn't think fusion was used very often with synth; you think it's possible they were heat-seals instead? :)
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I will give the salon a call tomorrow and find out what method they used and let you know.

Sorry to be so vague but this is all new to me!
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You may be right Jenny it may not be fusion, but I have heard of it being done with synthetic, just not the norm.

Hey redhairedgirl, your not being vague, you were just not very well informed of the process they did on you. Thats not your fault! Its hard to know what all to ask when you dont know much about it. The stylist should have explained everything to you and gave you some type of written information or care sheets or something that may have explained the process a bit.

Youve come to a great place to find information, Im sure you will find lots of useful info and what you dont find just ask, youll get help here!
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It's not your fault, it's the salon's. I have a special form of suspicion reserved for salons and stylists who won't talk openly about their methods. I mean, sheesh, you're the one who's gonna have to wear it, so shouldn't they tell you, of all people, what they're doing?

Anyway, no, synth won't fade. And it is kind of true about the weight and keeping the hair short, though I think a bob is kind of extreme; loose extensions are pretty light, so I think you could get away with shoulder-length or a few inches past it.

Extensions are very possible to DIY, though they require a fair amount of effort to get right. I'd recommend practicing on a cheap wig before doing it on your own head- or perhaps trying an easier method first, like bonded wefts.

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Thanks for the replies, you are all so nice on here!
Right, I 'phoned the salon and spoke to the girl who did my hair (the one who doesn't like to talk). She said that she used profibre extensions and that they were put in using the fusion method because this type of synth can take high temperatures (?). I am quoting what she said here but that doesn't mean I understand it!
I am a bit worried now because does that mean it wasn't done properly or that my hair will start to break off? I have only washed it once since it was done using the shampoo and conditioner that they gave me at the salon and it seems ok.
They said that the extensions should last about 2 months by which time all my hair should be long enough for them if I want (I only had about 2 thirds done this time) and if I go to them it will cost £400, which I suppose is about $650-700, does that sound expensive. There's no way I can afford that (I am a student) so I wll definitely have to DIY next time. How do I find a colour match to my hair for DIY?
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That much for synthetic is absurd, I believe. But I may be wrong

Profibre... www.prohair.us maybe? Sounds like the hair itself melts to your hair?! That is a new one for me. But then again, I am a newbie
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I am thinking perhaps I should go to another salon for a 2nd opinion. I am getting quite worried now that maybe they didn't know what they were doing. My hair feels ok (great in fact!), but if it has damaged my natural hair then I want to know!
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Oh, don't get upset...I am sure it is a fine method. There are tons of ways out there, all have their pros and cons. Even if this one has some problems, you may still be fine. None are foolproof, but if they know what they are doing, you could be fine. The woman sounds as though she was very cautious in wanting your hair to be a shorter length, that is a good sign.
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The profiber is most likely prohair by prostyles. It is a good quality synthetic fiber, and yes it can be done with fusion, you just dont hear of it that much, usually fusion is done with human hair. No it does not melt into your hair. The glue is heated and when applied to the extension strand and natural hair it sets/cools very quickly. I dont know if that is expensive or not, Id say probably not that high being done professionally. Ive heard of people spending alot more than that. Its expensive to me considering that Im a DIYer and all I pay for is materials, labor is what costs so much!
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I wish these stupid adverts for these places were more up front. Their application reads as such.."Unlike human hair that requires glue....Prostyles are applied using the heat clamp...which creates the heat seal from the hari fibre"

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I hear ya on that. And my biggest peeve is when they try to make something sound so scientific....such as:
'non surgical method of hair grafting', grrrr just say it dammit, its glued to your head LOL!

Or.... natural organic protein bond translation=keratin glue!
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Thank you sooo much for your reassurance!!!

Means I can sleep tonight now without worrying about waking up with my hair next to me on the pillow .

The uk is pretty expensive for most things., I have had a look at loads of english salon websites over the last hour and the prices are about what I was quoted.
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lol...yeah I think this is why I had a hard time getting a grasp on a lot of the methods in the beginning. Would get confused after hearing you girls talking, then reading the companies ads. Oh well :)

What I find most funny, is that these people straight up say "no glue" What is the adhesive they are using?
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