QuoteReplyTopic: How much Cinderella hair needed? Posted: March 03 2005 at 9:29pm
3 bags of hair (25 strands in each bag), with each strand cut in half for a total of 150 extensions (really only 75, I suppose). My hair's very fine/thin.
Is this enough? I'm worried they will look stringy...
Also, I realize the damage I am doing to my own already-GL damaged hair by settling for Cinderella, but it is all that is offered locally and I'm just so sad looking in the mirror at such short hair after being spoiled by my previously-beautiful 20"... So, these are going in next Saturday.
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Hi Posh, I have never had Cinderella hair, but have had GL. I have very fine, thin hair and wanted full, long ,thicker head of hair. I had 187 strands of Great Lengths applied. So this would have been 93.5 strands used (each cut in half). That would have been 4 packs (25 each in pack). 100 strands ordered to fully complete my head with a few left over. You may need another pack Posh.
If your hair is already damaged, I seriously urge you not to do Cinderella. I honestly think those bonds are even more damaging than the GLs ones because they "melt" into the hair more, rather than maintaining a harder, more solid "shell." It's a terrible method for fine, thin hair, imo--especially if it's color-treated, damaged, or otherwise fragile.
A lot of people don't like the Cinderella hair, but mine was OK (not great, but certainly decent enough). Still, you couldn't pay me enough to put those things back in my hair. I don't know where you live, but I'm sure there are other options. Personally, I would travel thousands of miles, uphill in the snow, to get pinchbraids, heat-seals, extendtubes, or shrinkies before I would get another Cinderella application. I would shave my head and wear a wig every day before I would get Cinderella. From the sounds of it, you are not a good candidate for any kind of fusion; hair has to be pretty strong to stand up to fusion removal, imo.
That said, if you insist on doing this, I don't think 75 will be nearly enough if you're going for both length and fullness. If you only want to thicken up already-long hair, 75 may be fine. But if you're short and want to go long, I would double that and use 150 (spliced in half, then 300). Of course, the more bonds you have, the more damage they will do.
Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I really don't think this is advisable for you. If you had very strong, thick hair that can withstand anything, then maybe you could use this glue method (and make no mistake, Cinderella is glue); otherwise, I really think you'll regret it in the long run.
I suppose now would be a bad time to mention that my hair is also bleached?? *L*
But really, it is quite strong, countless stylists have made that comment over the years and through an endless parade of color changes and bleach jobs. I know I'll have damage on removal... but it's just so hard going back to short and fine!
If I went for 6 packs, it would bring my grand total to about the same as I paid for my GL... ($126 a bag, with tax for a total of $870, plus $50/hour for application). Is this normal? I was under the impression that Cinderella were SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than GL.
Also, do the same no-silicone, no-sulfur product rules apply to this hair? That was a huge pain with my GL...
I don't know about the sulfur, but I doubt you'd want to use silicone near the roots. Nevertheless, they really shouldn't slip much; those bonds are in there pretty good, which is what makes them such a ***** to remove.
That price sounds a bit steep. I've heard you can get Cinderella for $40 a bag, actually, although I don't know where. If you got six bags of the 22-inch from savagelily.com, it'd be $83 per bag for a $500 grand total, including tax. (I think that's correct, yes?) Someone might know of a cheaper option.
:)
Edited to say: You could use virtually any prebonded hair for it--you don't necessarily need to use Cinderella to use the technique. :)
Posh- Why don't you make yourself some clip in extensions? Once you purchase the hair, there is no application fee, of course because you can put them in and out as you like. I switched to clip in extensions about 4 years ago and love them. No one can believe that it's not my natural hair.
I've gotta say - the Cinderella bodywave hair in 22" I got from afrocare.com (aren't they also savagelily.com?) is some of the best hair I've ever purchased. It's in the Top 5 for me personally and I've had a lot of hair.
I put in a few before Christmas (maybe it was November? I documented it somewhere on this board) behind the temple and just below the crown. They grew out very well, not ripping the roots out or doing any damage at all. The hair remained perfect and silky smooth. The bond was still perfect and very solid.
The growth of my own hair made them impossible to wear anymore so I took out the front ones (still have some in the back) and I have to tell you, I had a hell of a time. I can see why some extensionists give up and end up cutting them out or damaging your hair underneath during removal.
If you plan on Cinderella, please please please, snip off a large portion of that monster nail bond. You don't even need it to be half that size. Just get a little pair of scissors and don't cut up the middle and split the strand or anything, simply cut it straight across the top.
Oh, and good luck with the removal. Man, are you ever gonna need it.
I have to tell you, I had a hell of a time. I can see why some extensionists give up and end up cutting them out or damaging your hair underneath during removal. Oh, and good luck with the removal. Man, are you ever gonna need it.
THANK YOU, AMM!!!
Seriously, Posh--these things are like permanently stuck to your head. I was screaming in pain (I **** you not) when mine were removed, and so little of my own hair was salvaged by the time we got them out, it really wasn't worth the agony; it got so bad, I told them to just cut out the last 40 or so.
Here's what I suggest: Ask the salon if you can watch them remove another client's Cinderella extensions, just so you can make sure it's for you. If they let you observe and it goes great, then excellent. If not, you really might want to reconsider.
That said, maybe someone else here has had success removing them and can shed some light on this.
Hi everyone, just wanted to chime in here about Cinderella. I've been doing Cinderella extensions in my salon for the last two years. About the removal: I think it's very important to use the proper solvent and removal tool. So far I've had no difficulty removing the extensions...except for the fool client who was going to bed with wet hair and never brushed it for god knows how long...what can I say, you can talk till your blue in the face and people still do what they do. Jenny, I'm sorry you had such a hard time with yours. I can't imagine what happened. When I remove them it just takes a little drop of solvent, and a hit with the crushing tool. Sometimes I have to repeat this step, but most of the time the bond starts crumbling and the extension just slides right off. My guess is that all this damage people are talking about is because the person removing the bonds is not being gentle and patient enough, and they are ripping out the clients own hair in the process.
About the hair: Yes, I have noticed some inconsistency in the quality of Cinderella hair, but from all the research I've done this is true of all human hair regardles of the system. For the most part all of my clients have been happy with the quality of their hair.
I had a long talk with one of the technicians at Cinderella Hair at the last hair show and expressed my concern with the hair quality etc. She told me that the company is constantly improving it's system, and quality control is on the top of their list. I've also talked to other hairdressers who have used the Cinderella system for years and they have told me that they have noticed a big quality difference in the bond and the hair over the years.
In conclusion, I think Cinderella is one of the better fusion systems available, but, like a lot of you I'm always looking for something better and have started offering the microlink system to my clients as well. I think in the big picture the strand by strand technique of hair extensions is still new, and the better companies will continue to refine their technology...damn! I remember when the braid/weft tech was all the rage! Look how far we've come...and look at all the new, cool stuff we learn and share on this board on a weekly basis.
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