QuoteReplyTopic: Matting and Tangleling Posted: June 12 2005 at 4:25pm
Let me first start out by saying this web-site is just great!! I have found out so many new things about extensions!!
Ok, I had GL's about a year ago and when ever they would get matted or tangled my stylist would tell me to just grab hold of the bonds and RIP them apart. When ever I did that, it seemed like I was ripping my own hair apart, but she reassured me that it was just the hair that naturally falls out gettting tangled together.
So here is my question, was she right or did I just continue to do damage to my already fine thin hair? When she took my extensions off, (5 1/2 months later) I felt like I was bald!!! So does anyone have any advice, or do I just plan on ripping apart my new ones? I am getting them installed on Wednesday!!
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Brush the attachments 3x daily. Yes, do not be afraid to really brush the roots. This will keep the shedding hairs face down and will prevent the shedding hairs from 'kissing' each other.
If a client shows me her 'kissing' strands then I tell her that she has not brushed her hair correctly or she is not getting in deep. She gets a F on her hair maintenance.
To answer your question, "but she reassured me that it was just the hair that naturally falls out getting tangled together. "- She is dead wrong! Shedding hair will never, ever get matted or dreaded if brushed properly!
Another thing, you mentioned that your hair is "fine and thin", human hair is heavy so you may want to try synthetic hair or cyberhair.
But, I've experienced working with over thousands of clients in my field, that anything attached to your growing hair will cause stress to a certain degree. Beauty is a sacrifice. Find a stylist who will be honest with you and teach you the proper maintenance. This applies to any form of extension attached to growing hair.
I recommend a looped brush to all my clients. You can get them at Sally
beauty Supply sometimes, and always at www.haircandy.net here:
http://haircandy.net/loopbrush.htm
They're really cool; because the bristles are loops instead of spikes,
you can really dig into your scalp and de-tangle them without getting
the bristles caught on your extensions.
Well I bought a looper brush, so hopefully I am set for detangling!!
I always thought that Syth hair was more course and heavier than HH. The hair that I am putting in is almost as fine as my own. And when I say "thin" hair, I'm not balding in any place, I just don't have alot of hair. The hair God's were not very nice to me!!!
Sounds like a terrible idea, try felt like a terrible idea!! But, I thought she is the expert that got CERTIFIED thru GL, she would know what to do. Towards the end of the 5th month I had such a huge Dred Lock at the crown of my head, that even "ripping" couldnt get rid of it.
Anyways, now I have found all the experts, HERE!! And I know that should I have any problems, you will direct me in the right direction!!!
No matter what the method, extensions should not be in the hair for more than 3 months without being completely removed, and then reapplied if you want to continue to wear them.
GL stylists lie and say that it's ok to wear them for longer than 3 months, when that's a big culprit for damage.
Okay so I brush with a looper. But I'm confused cybermane. What do you mean by the hair kissing?
Ok- the hair sheds up to 250 hairs daily {look at your hair brush, carpet, etc.}. Shedding hair is trapped inside the ext. So you brush down the shedding hairs to prevent them from dreading, kissing, touching, hugging, get it?
mochachip wrote:
and which direction is down? down like the shed hair shuld point down the length of the hair or down like towards your scalp?
yup! down like towards your feet. But if they do kiss, brush the shedding hairs up and then down again.
mochachip wrote:
And you di think it is the shed hair that is matting just that it means she should be brushing more so it won't mat right?
Yup, swear to my profitable business that if Gsmilie would have really get into her roots, and brushed, swear she would not have dreads.
No matter what the method, extensions should not be in the hair for more than 3 months without being completely removed, and then reapplied if you want to continue to wear them.
GL stylists lie and say that it's ok to wear them for longer than 3 months, when that's a big culprit for damage.
Lisa, when I was still new to hair extensions, my teachers told me; "oh yeah, tell the clients they last 6 months". Now thousands of clients later, I'd say the average, young, healthy, active, woman with normal growing hair is 8-12 weeks too
I do get clients who do not want me to touch their precious hair, but in comparison to my other clients who religiously remove their ext. 8-12 weeks, their hair looks like- YUCK!!!
Sounds like a terrible idea, try felt like a terrible idea!! But, I thought she is the expert that got CERTIFIED thru GL, she would know what to do. Towards the end of the 5th month I had such a huge Dred Lock at the crown of my head, that even "ripping" couldnt get rid of it.
Anyways, now I have found all the experts, HERE!! And I know that should I have any problems, you will direct me in the right direction!!!
Just because she is certified doesn't mean anything. Not all stylists are created equal. Plus there are many stylists who don't do a lot of extensions too since ext. is a very rare service in salons. My guess is that she is still new{?} {I've been there, done that, so I'll never forget the clients who have taught me many many years ago}
But anytime you need our help, we're here for you!!!
So kissing hair is just shed hair stuck in the bond that gets matted?
And I'm wondering what the logic is of making sure you brush the root
ends down. wouldn't this get the cuticles going opposite
directions and make it more like to mat?
Then again the only time I've had matting issues was with braids.
where i obviously wasn't going to brush anything ever. Took like
12 hours to unbrad everything and then maybe 6 more t o get the shed
hair out. I had an awesome huge poofy fro though for two days til
i finally washed it.
and I thought the generally accepted number on hairs shed per day was
100? I mean 250 is fine too. I've just always heard 80-100
or 100. I would expect the thicker your hair is them ore it would
shed too...
another thing that doesn't make sense is if the hair is bonded how on earth would you be able to brush the shed hairs OUT of the bond? It looks like this is what you are telling her to do, cybermane?
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I don't care for my looper either. I finger-fiddle with my extensions so much I think I'm keeping the kissing to a minimum. I agree, sythetic is much lighter than HH...I wouldn't use anything else on my fine feather excuse for hair.
another thing that doesn't make sense
is if the hair is bonded how on earth would you be able to brush
the shed hairs OUT of the bond? It looks like this is what you
are telling her to do, cybermane?
LOL Kate, it is the root area on top of the install site that is
shedding not inside the bond.
So kissing hair is just shed hair stuck in
the bond that gets matted?
nope, kissing hair is shedding root hair touching the next strand
of shedding root hair.
mochachip wrote:
And I'm wondering what the logic is of
making sure you brush the root ends down. wouldn't this get
the cuticles going opposite
directions and make it more like to mat?
nope, that hair is dead. In Europe, the stylist actually trim off the
shedding hairs like every 1 month{?} with a cuticle scissor.
mochachip wrote:
Then again the only time I've had matting
issues was with braids.
where i obviously wasn't going to brush anything ever. Took
like
12 hours to unbrad everything and then maybe 6 more t o get
the shed
hair out. I had an awesome huge poofy fro though for two days
til
i finally washed it.
and I thought the generally accepted number on hairs shed per
day was
100? I mean 250 is fine too. I've just always heard 80-100
or 100. I would expect the thicker your hair is them ore it would
shed too...
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