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    Posted: March 27 2006 at 12:54am
Hi!

Bear with me - I am in a "blonde to brunette on my own" transition and new issues keep popping up.

My first attempt at brunette was a red filler (colorfuls red red) + a neutral blonde demi (since I knew my hair would grab and turn out darker than the box says).  Came out auburn.  I want a cool brown.

Second attempt - 5 weeks later - was no filler + same neutral blonde demi shade.

My ends are fine - a nice neutral brown.  Not quite what I eventually want, but closer than my first try.

My roots (the virgin hair - almost an inch!) are red.  I mean like, red red.  Lucille Ball red.

Does anyone know why?  It's not horrible - it blends into the ends fine, I'm not traumatized or desperate to change it, I just want to understand why this happens and how to avoid for the future.

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I'm not a pro so if I'm wrong I'm sure someone else will pipe up, but I would guess its because you're using neutral.  The dye process still has peroxide in it and it sounds like the peroxide is lifting your hair enough to bring out the orange, even though you're going darker.  Neutral isn't really for changing your hair color, that's what the different color bases that work with or oppose the color you have help with. 
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Really?  Even demis?

I thought there wasn't any lift in a demi.

Hm next time I guess I'll try cool but then I've had my hair turn green on me. 
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I don't know.  Yes, you have to be careful using cooler colors on hair that was lifted to blonde, it could indeed go green.  When I was going dark from white blonde I always had to dye it twice, use a red based brown, then a green based brown over it to counter the bright red hair I'd get after the first go.  The problem with that is you often don't get exactly what you want, and the roots don't do what the rest of the dyed hair does. I hated the growing out phase!  
Good luck with your transition.
 
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Hm that doesn't sound like a bad idea - putting a cool over this "neutral" - thanks!

Are you back to blonde now, btw?
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I let mine go natural.  I still dye a medium blonde streak or two near the front, just to give it some kick, so, sort of!


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do you do it yourself?  what do you use?
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