QuoteReplyTopic: Rant for newbies Posted: October 09 2007 at 9:25pm
I see alot of posts that go "can [insert hair product here] work on african american hair?"
What do you have some kind of alien hair?? I mean come on there is no beauty product that you can not put on your hair. The first step to growing your hair is realizing that there is no "white people hair products" and "black people hair products". I can not think of a single product that woul d'nt "work on african american hair".your hair will not fall out if you use pantene or herbal essences or sunsilk! Don't go based on where you found the product but the product INGREDIENTS!
Sorry but reading those posts always makes me !
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I totally understand what you mean when we label products as "black hair products" or "white hair products." I really think that people just want to use products that they know will give their hair results and that are used by their race. Some thing that they can identify with, if they see someone whose hair has grown they may want to replicate their regimen. But I really think it all comes down to what products are the best for your hair and hair type and a person will learn this through trial and error. To add, when people label hair products by race they are most likely going off what they have been taught or see. For instance, I don't ever recall seeing a Caucasian person using "Bergamot grease or Blue Magic", but I can't label grease as a "black hair product" despite African Americans use this product the most.
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i think they should ask "does it work on 3b/4c/2/1 hair"..it's not the culture that makes our hair...it's the curl pattern..A person with 1 or 2 grade of hair just can't' use hair grease...that would be African american, asian, caucasion, any race with 1 or 2 grade hair..
i have grown up in neighborhoods where there are caucasions with 4D hair..their curl patterns were so tight, they would envy the african americans walking around with 3c or 2a hair..
Head over to Mongolia, and youwill see asian folks with 4c 4a hair..big afros with yellow skin..i walked into a Walmart here in California - there was a young asian greeter, 6 ft., and a huge kinky afro (and an attitude)...
the folks who grow up Japan with 3c 4c hair have it hard when it comes to products..this grade of hair is also throughout phillipines, mexico, south america, france, germany, you name it..4c 2c 3a it is - what it is..
Whoever asks these questions, or categorizes "blacks" or "African americans" with nappy hair..is just ignorant..and hasn't been kept abreast of hair grading..they haven't been reading their books - nor care to, that is all...and this ignorance is breeds in cultures as well just like the hair grades...
Most of the products made for the 1 to 3 grade hair, will not probably build up faster on 4c..why? with 1 or 2 grade hair, you must wash very often due to sebum ..probably everyday which means the wax buildup on the follicles will happen more frequently..Pantene has been known for it's "wax buildup"...you see those 1 or 2 grade haired women swinging their hair and extensions in the camera..but several months of using this, they wonder why their hair is dry, or frizzy looking..it's the "wax buildup"
4c's only have to wash their hair every 2-3 days or once a week at least..the buildup will happen, but not as quickly...The bottom line is all hair product lines should be as natural as possible..the hair care industry doesn't care what culture you are..it's all about the Benjamins..
Edited by femmemuscle - November 03 2007 at 1:03pm
some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.
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I noticed that in my stores there is an "ethnic isle" then in the normal isle there is a section for "women/people of color"...we don't have to seperate ourselves because society and its businesses will find a way to do that for us.
We can use any product we choose to use that works for YOUR hair. There are people with type 1 hair that use products in the ethnic isle and there people like me with type 4 that use products in the other isle.
I find it funny that type 1s usually say they don't know what hair grease is use for. It wasn't too long ago that they were using it them selves, either to slick their hair back and sometimes for their scalp.
I've been on Native American reservations, working in the houses and have seen stock loads of Blue Magic hair grease.
I think the main problem is that people allow the masses fool them. For instance, when a black woman has long hair it has to be extensions, then some people with type 1 hair asks "what are extensions, did they hurt?" Alot of them know the truth, its a game to many.
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you're so very right CME! Hell, even the hispanics are catching on with this: "i don't know what hair grease is for"..hell, they used to raid the shelves, just like the caucasions for the "wet look", or the "slick" look..and especially for the waves..i can't tell you how many hispanic men are wearing doo-rags and fades now..
As for the extensions..thanks to the Wealthy Caucasions and asians we never would have known about them..it started out as wigs..only the wealthy wore them..anyone of lower socio-economic status was basically laughed out of the kitchen or asked to remove the offensive object..they were not allowed to "mock" their superiors...or "masters"..hell, it's pretty hard to keep a wig on your head while using a washboard anyway..
As moving pictures became popular, everyone could see the women of "celebrity" status not only wore wigs and extensions on the set, but also in public..they needed to maintain a certain "flawless perfection" on and off stage..their studios demanded this, as well as their clothes designers..
As the demand for hair grew, due to more people becoming more socio-economically stable in the 30's and 40's they found a way to meet these demands..the concentration camps..they shaved the hair off of the jewish men and women before extermination - to meet the demands of the wealthy and vain. Not only in the united states, but in Russia, Europe, and many of countries where wealth was spawning. Even Germany itself..
There was such a surplus of hair (which meant they were killing a lot of people - not only Jews) they began to use it stuff mattresses with it..we used to call them "hair beds"..you could buy them at the Goodwill and Salvation army really cheap back in those days..I remember them myself...we slept on them..the hair would sometimes poke through the mattress holes...
it is a game to many..but i have seen on many forums where caucasions AND black women say when they see a black woman with long hair: "I know that can't be her hair...black women can't grow their hair that long."
"Or, she's got to be mixed , there's no way"...
some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.
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When I first found out about hair extensions, I was watching an informercial with a balding Caucasian lady putting extensions in to cover up her thinning hair. At that time in my life, the little girls that were my age, had long hair. I never onced questioned if was real or fake.
It's more rare now to see our children with beautiful healthy hair because many of us have become so self-conscious about ourselves that we have developed an inferior complex about our hair. NOT EVERYONE but many, just listen to how various black women talk about their hair.
White people know what extensions are, many of them pay hundreds of dollars to get them. We know that Britney Spears didn't cut her hair today and tomorrow it's down to her Tatas. So it's not a secret but many won't tell you it's fake they want to keep that secret. However, many black women are QUICK to announce if someone's hair is fake, and other women just don't care if the hair match or not, therefore, it is obvisously fake.
The reason why many of us don't believe our hair can grow is because we are so focused on what others are doing that we don't see what we have or had. Little girls back then (i'm 25) had long and thick ponytails. Little girls now have hair that barely fit into a ponytail. It's really sad. If we come to appreciate what we have and take care of it like we really care about it then we could raise our self-esteem a bit higher.
Cmesweet, I totally agree with you, little girls had thick pretty hair when i came up as well. Now, everyday, I see two-year olds with full heads of weave too heavy for their heads.
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i thought i'd never see the day where children would be wearing weaves..but they have these childrens beauty pageants..i had to leave my friend in the audience a couple of years ago.. her daughter was up there swinging hair that wasn't hers either...none of us looked like that when i was coming up..
every little girl up there caucasion, asian, and african american were wearing weaves, makeup and skimpy costumes..and they were no more than 10 years old..i thought they were little strippers..
i had a flashback of this pageant when i saw the movie "little miss sunshine"..
I think the lack of hair nowadays in the young folks is the fast food the parents are shoving down their throats..(to keep them quiet)..lack of exercise, vitamins, water.. too much t.v., and video games..when i see a bloated child with hardly any hair or common sense walk past me..i look at the parents..they are just as bad, if not worse..
some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.
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ITA with other posters one thing that I have learned along my journey about my hair is that its not what product is made for particular race it is the ingredients in the product that matter!
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I mean come on there is no beauty product that you can not put on your hair. The first step to growing your hair is realizing that there is no "white people hair products" and "black people hair products". I can not think of a single product that woul d'nt "work on african american hair".your hair will not fall out if you use pantene or herbal essences or sunsilk! Don't go based on where you found the product but the product INGREDIENTS!
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