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    Posted: September 25 2003 at 9:41pm
Hey everybody,

Just wanted to share a little anecdote...

A month ago I went to see the doctor. I waited just a few minutes in the waiting room, but overheard the chatter in the office among the women, and a few of them were talking about haircuts and one mentioned that she was thinking about cutting her long hair shorter.

I should add that the women had a variety of hair lengths, from shoulder to mid-back to waist-length. For the most part, long.

Today I went back for another appointment and again, while waiting for just a few minutes in the waiting area, overheard similar a similar conversation today (making me wonder, are haircuts the only thing they talk about?). So then I'm whisked away to the appointment room. A short while later, I hear the nurse and her assistant, as they approach the appointment room, discussing -- yep, you guessed it -- "yes, I'm going to the salon this afternoon," says the nurse. "Are you going to cut your hair shorter?" asks the assistant. At that moment, they walk into the appointment room. We discuss medical business (ahem, no details of that here!), and then at a seemingly appropriate moment I compliment them both on their compliment-worthy hair. They were very gracious and exclaimed that I was a gentleman or some such kind term. I was told that one of the women in the office had just had her long hair "chopped." We pleasantly concluded our business, and I was on my way.

My long hair preference aside, the nature of the discussions I overheard in the office just "felt" wrong. It seemed as though, for some reason, there was some sort of haircut "urging" going on, being applied externally and the women seemed to be wondering if such a course of action was something they wanted to -- or "should" -- consider. Just my impression. And these "urgings" seemed to come with no basis or reason, just that others were either cutting or thinking of doing so, as if that alone could or should make the decision justifiable to themselves.

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Well, I think if they want to get thier hair cut let them. If the conversation was more like pressuring an unwilling to cut thier hair its a different story, but it sounded like you described normal hair talk. Besides some people like getting hair cuts simply to feel that fresh new style. If they want to cut it let them.

My friend just got hers cut...shes the one who claims her hair can grow from just above her shoulders down to classic lenght in less than a year...HA!...anyways shes cutting out the layers so that she can grow her hair out...but somehow as soon as her hair reaches mid back she will complain that its too heavy and that her hair is too thick to keep it long. Then she will cut it! And she will tell me my hair is hin and thats why i can keep mine long.
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Maybe it's due to the turning of the seasons.....
Psychologically, there is an urge in some people to change when we go from spring to summer and summer to autumn...or so I've read (and observed).

Or perhaps it's being in a waiting room that triggers such talk, as one thinks of other places one waits for an appointment (such as salons). And talking hairstyles is a subject that allows relative strangers to connect with each other (and divert their attention from potential health concerns?) without getting heavy.

Just theorising Dave.......
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Hi all,

Well about 2 years ago I went to the office of a famous Dallas plastic surgeon to have a suspicious mole removed off my back near my shoulder. Not that I expect to be photographed for the fashion world :-) but a friend had a similar mole removed by a dermatologist and he left a ghastly scar. So I decided to go to this plastic surgeon, who did a great job. No scar.

Anyway, while I was hanging out in the office for the various tests & consultations with the doc I overheard similar conversations about hair, makeup and even plastic surgery things (Botox, peels, Glycolic etc.,)

If you want to know my opinion, I think that people are basically bored when the news is so horrible and they want to do something. They want to change something. And what is the easiest thing to immediately change? Hair, makeup, clothing. We have noticed that there is a buying trend for certain hair accessories during certain news periods. It makes a lot of sense to me that people are discouraged and scared of what is happening in the world and they want something good to happen. Change is often seen as good. A new restaurant is a good change, a new hairstyle is considered good. New haircolor is change.

I think Dave that rather than the women trying to pressure each other to cut their hair that they are bored and want something new and exciting.

I was talking to a celebrity hairstylist on the phone a few days ago. They invited me out to LA and offered to do a "makeover" on me. I was flattered since this stylist works on some of the majors. However, I told them that I didn't want to cut my hair.

They know how I am about my hair after a few conversations and they said...oh no prob...we'll just play with your bangs, change around your highlights, maybe add some new lowlights and look at adding a small edge around the face.

Nothing big. But change.

So ultimately I think the key thing is that people are bored and want an instant fix.

Good topic though.

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I think Karen might be on to something there.

When I think about cutting my own hair, it's almost always after seeing a picture in a magazine or an actress in a movie with a really attractive shorter cut.

Or it's on a particularly bad hair day, when I convince myself, "That's it. It's all downhill from here unless I cut it."

This is why I now have a rule about waiting one week to act after making any new haircut decision. :)

I must admit, too, then when I mull over cutting it out loud, it's because I'm seeking opinions or reassurance. I used to think women who encouraged short hair cuts were being ugly and passive-aggressive, but now I realize it's often a taste thing that I can't relate to. For example, some women I know raved about Nicole Kidman's short, curly bob. I considered it to be a devastating mistake that amputated half her luxurious beauty. I would have been at the salon the next day, crying for hair extensions.

I have also known beautiful women with beautiful long hair want to cut it because they've already "achieved" it, and the novelty of having it has worn off.

One more thought: Fall is a time of sweeping change in the fashion world. The clothes and colors of the season are new, and the prospect of a "total beauty overhaul" is not unpleasant.
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I think the change to the fall season is definitely part of the urge to get hair cut. I might be more aware of it this season, but it seems that short hair is more fashionable this fall as indicated from a couple of hairstyle magazines I've seen.
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Quote rinlynn wrote:
Well, I think if they want to get thier hair cut let them.

As if I have any say in the matter!
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If the conversation was more like pressuring an unwilling to cut thier hair its a different story, but it sounded like you described normal hair talk.

At both visits to this doc there seemed to be a subtle pressuring going on. I have no idea if this is part of "normal" hair talk as I rarely hear it (in real life between "ordinary" people). Hearing the haircut conversation once would probably have struck me as being more of an isolated incident. What struck me as peculiar about the topic of their discussion was that it happened during BOTH visits, and when I sat only about 5 minutes in the waiting room during each visit.
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as soon as her hair reaches mid back she will complain that its too heavy and that her hair is too thick to keep it long.

Stretching the muscles of the neck could help her a lot.


Uzi and Karen, interesting theories you propose. A comment on something you wrote, Karen: "Change is often seen as good." I do see the word "often." But some changes (from "good" to "bad") are obviously not. I guess this begs the question, is change in and of itself good?

To all, I have been aware of the phenomenon of style changes happening mostly at this time of year.

With regards to hairstyles (and lengths) of people I see in my "daily walk of life," I don't notice any trend to shorter hair. Here, relatively long hair still seems to be very much in demand by the women who have it.

Thank you all for your insight.
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"At both visits to this doc there seemed to be a subtle pressuring going on. I have no idea if this is part of "normal" hair talk as I rarely hear it (in real life between "ordinary" people)."

And what is "normal" hair talk vs. any other kind?

Enquiring minds want to know...
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I think that some people see change as a way of feeling "alive", and to stop them from feeling boring. It is also in most people's nature to want to shock people, and cutting long hair is an easy way to do this and become the centre of attention. I also think that some people do give in to peer pressure.
One girl I know had the most gorgeous hair I'd ever seen. It was a little longer than waist length, and blunt cut in the most gorgeous vibrant shade of ginger imaginable. It was poker straight, and on close examination I never found a knot or split end. Her best friend (whose hair is bleached, cooked and dry) kept telling her to cut her hair because it was 'boring'. So she did. Again and again and again. Now it's to her shoulders, and dry because she straightens it where the layers went curly. It looks dull and I don't think she evens likes it. When people politely complimented her I could see in her eyes that she was upset.
Please try and convince me that some people don't give in to peer pressure because it's easier than standing their ground.
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That's what women do. They give other women advice. It could be on the love life ("marry him" or "dump him), about clothes and shoes ("I saw the most incredible outfit that would look gret on you."), the job ("Don't take that from your boss!") or things for the kids ("Have you bought the Veggie Tales video? My kids can't stop watching it?")

Women see ways to improve their friends and want to give advice. This is especially if their friends have had the same hairstyle for a long time. And let's face it, women with long hair tend to change less often than women with short hair.

We also tend to encourage in others what we're not willing to do in ourselves. Can't afford a new outfit? Recommend it to a friend. Too afraid to hunt for a new job? Tell your friend she should. A woman might be too afraid to cut her own hair, but she'll encourage her friends to do so.

Change for yourself is scary, but change in others is exciting. That's why there are so many makeover shows on TV. The more dramatic the change, the more interesting it is.

Women tend to be supportive. When one asks, "do you think I should cut my hair?" she's probably looking for a "yes." Otherwise, she wouldn't ask. Other women know this and aren't going to respond with "you'd be stupid to cut your hair."

Leave that to insensitive men. Most will tell their wives/girlfriends to never cut it. What's worse is that some don't even notice their wives/girlfriends make a haircut change. Some don't care. So anywhere another woman is, is a great place to talk about hair.

Dave, I'll bet if you asked your guy friends if you should cut your hair, most would just arch their eyebrows and shake their heads, but every woman you know has an opinion. Those that think you should cut it will tend to be more vocal. People interested in change usually are.
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My boyfriend took a while to notice when I cut my hair, but then he liked it alot. In general though he likes short short hair on girls. Too bad for him that Im not a short haired petite asian or redhead. Too bad for him.

Anyways in my family and in this relationship the poeple closest to me, male and female, have prefered short hair on women. My parents both wanted me to cut my hair like my sister does. Mind you shes gorgeous and looks great with chin lenght hair but its just not me. My boyfriend says in general he prefers short hair, but he never has asked me to change my looks in any way.
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