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    Posted: March 17 2004 at 6:40pm
Hi, I just registered... my name is Ed. Here's my story/problem:

In the beginning of 2000, I started growing my hair and as it got longer, it looked worse and worse because it was SO dry and curly/wavy/whatever. It was really ugly and wouldn't behave. It stuck out like Carrot Top's hair or something.

Anyway, I ended up dreading my hair and I was happy with it. Had dreads for a year and a half; they were down to my shoulders, but then I had to cut them for undisclosed reasons.

I want to grow my hair out again, but I don't plan on dreading it this time. I just want to have normal long hair, say halfway down my back. So I want to know what I can do to keep it from looking like **** again. I have no idea how to get it cut. Should I just grow it all or should I cut it a bit now and then. How should I cut it (a delicate fade, perhaps? I don't want an undercut!) What kind of stuff should I put in my hair as far as shampoos/conditioners/whatever?
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Just avoid using any shampoo w/ laural sulfate or whatever. I hear that RedKen Allsoft is a good shampoo to use. Also, avoid blowdrying everyday. Instead do it once or twice a week, when you really need your hair to look its best. And avoid putting too much styling product in your hair, as it can build up and make your hair icky. And get it trimmed when you notice the ends are looking frayed.
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Wow, 72 views and only one reply... *******s. Thanks, I hate...
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Ed,

Never mistake lack of responses for a lack of concern. People can have a variety of reasons for not responding. It's better to express frustration in a more positive way, such as asking politely for any other suggestions. My guess is that people would be more likely to want to help you.
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I don't feel I expressed my frustration in a negative way. Well anyway, DOES anyone have any more suggestions for me?
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Hello Ed,

Much like Dave mentioned, a lack of response
is due to many things. One person viewing
it ten times to see if there has been a response
could easily add up to 10 views.

There may also be a lot of folks thinking they
might be able to assist, but when they click
on the message and read it, they may feel
as if they cannot contribute or offer advice
for you.

While there is a lot to learning good hair care,
the basics are always pretty easy.

Blow dryers, long hours in the hot sun,
harsh shampoos, not using conditioner,
coloring your hair improperly, yanking a comb
or brush through hair, etc. are pretty basic,
but you''''d be surprised how many do this.

You also have to keep in mind that all heads
of hair are quite different. There are many types
of hair as well as colors. What works for one
person may not work for another. For example,
I have straight hair which tends to be on the dry
side, so using a good conditioner and putting
my hair up when wet is a great benefit.
Hair thrives on moisture.

Please continue to visit the boards, share a bit
more about your hair type and perhaps someone
will be able to assist.

Glad you joined the site!

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Hello Ed,

Much like Dave mentioned, a lack of response
is due to many things. One person viewing
it ten times to see if there has been a response
could easily add up to 10 views.

There may also be a lot of folks thinking they
might be able to assist, but when they click
on the message and read it, they may feel
as if they cannot contribute or offer advice
for you.

While there is a lot to learning good hair care,
the basics are always pretty easy.

Blow dryers, long hours in the hot sun,
harsh shampoos, not using conditioner,
coloring your hair improperly, yanking a comb
or brush through hair, etc. are pretty basic,
but you''''d be surprised how many do this.

You also have to keep in mind that all heads
of hair are quite different. There are many types
of hair as well as colors. What works for one
person may not work for another. For example,
I have straight hair which tends to be on the dry
side, so using a good conditioner and putting
my hair up when wet is a great benefit.
Hair thrives on moisture.

Please continue to visit the boards, share a bit
more about your hair type and perhaps someone
will be able to assist.

Glad you joined the site!

Karen Marie
*Accolady* / Wuvie
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Wow,
How in the world did I do that?
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Hi Karen Marie!

Nice to "see" you. How are you and your hair these days?

Thank you for your helpful explanation to Ed, and for anybody else who might wonder if they're being ignored. If it seems that way, it just isn't the case.

I actually have advice today for Ed. Ed, just let it grow without interruption until you can't stand how shaggy it is, then go to the sympathetic and helpful stylist you've searched for -- and discovered -- well beforehand, and ask for a tiny trim (be sure they know your hair growth goals). Repeat infrequently until your hair is long. That's basically what I did.

Good luck!
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Ok, thank you everyone who gave me advice. Keep them coming!

On another note, it's pretty discouraging to hear all of these girls I talk to say that they hate long hair on guys. I told at least four different girls that I was growing my hair out again and they all said they think long hair is ugly on men. Well, I guess I'll just do what makes me happy, because although they might not be as large in number, there are girls out there who dig the hair. And I certainly dig it!
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Hi Ed, first I'm sorry I didn't reply sooner. Second I probably wouldn;t say much different than what was said.

Ok now as far as this issue with the girls, I realise that its a real downer when you think they are all like that but all I can say is be patient. The girls that will like you for who you are will find you if you don't find them first. Anyone who is going to be that way with you probably isn't the person you were looking for anyway. Its hard enough for you to get comfortable with yourself without having to deal with other people who don't know who they are and instead of dealing with it they just find faults with other people.

My advice to you is to find a hair care routine and just enjoy it. I've already grown my hair out without much of a routine but now I want one.

The quickest way for you to get a good routine is to figure out your hair type.

Tell us if your hair is naturally straight, wavy, curly
or chemically straight, wavy, curly.

When you hold an individual hair strand would you consider it to be fine, medium, or coarse?

When you had your hair long were you able to make a ponytail? If so was it a thin tail, thick tail, or really thick. The more hairs you have the thicker it is.

If you can tell us these 3 things then perhaps the people who have similar types can tell you what they use and how they use it.

My hair for example is just wavy enough to not be straight, its Fine - Medium strands and when I make a tail its mid range thick which is about 2 - 4 inches around.

Also let us know if you have used any chemicals or colors on your hair within the past few years.
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FRUGiHOYi, for every woman who dislikes long hair, there is another who is turned on by it. Just the same way some women like giant muscles and some hate them, you can never please them all. Think of your long hair as a tool to attract the kind of women who will admire your unique and creative spirit.
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Originally posted by PurpleBubba PurpleBubba wrote:

Hi Ed, first I'm sorry I didn't reply sooner. Second I probably wouldn;t say much different than what was said.

Ok now as far as this issue with the girls, I realise that its a real downer when you think they are all like that but all I can say is be patient. The girls that will like you for who you are will find you if you don't find them first. Anyone who is going to be that way with you probably isn't the person you were looking for anyway. Its hard enough for you to get comfortable with yourself without having to deal with other people who don't know who they are and instead of dealing with it they just find faults with other people.

My advice to you is to find a hair care routine and just enjoy it. I've already grown my hair out without much of a routine but now I want one.

The quickest way for you to get a good routine is to figure out your hair type.

Tell us if your hair is naturally straight, wavy, curly
or chemically straight, wavy, curly.

When you hold an individual hair strand would you consider it to be fine, medium, or coarse?

When you had your hair long were you able to make a ponytail? If so was it a thin tail, thick tail, or really thick. The more hairs you have the thicker it is.

If you can tell us these 3 things then perhaps the people who have similar types can tell you what they use and how they use it.

My hair for example is just wavy enough to not be straight, its Fine - Medium strands and when I make a tail its mid range thick which is about 2 - 4 inches around.

Also let us know if you have used any chemicals or colors on your hair within the past few years.


I would say my hair is probably about as wavy as it can be without being curly. I don't know about individual strands. I don't know how I would be able to tell if it's fine, medium, coarse... When I had my long hair, I think when I tied it back, it thick. I know it wasn't thin. You know what, here's a picture:
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I think long hair on guys is the coolest!
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Same situation about growing my hair - my hair now is a little below my shoulders - bra line - I'm a girl - but about every 2 months I trim it about 1/4 of an inch.

Every thought of hair extentions?

Also, another good thing for your hair and scalp is mix about 1 part apple cider vinegar with 3 parts of a good shampoo for dry hair (Nature's Gate Herbal Shampoo) is really good, smells good - available in a health food store. Wash twice, rinse....condition

Make sure you don't get the vinegar/shampoo mixture in your eyes. Also make sure you use a good smelling conditioner because otherwise your head will smell like a salad.

The vinegar really removes all nasty scalp buildup from hair products etc.

Use this mixture every other shampoo. [[/IMG]
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Some people just want to see what kind of answers there are, because they also need to know them, but cannot give any advice themselves.
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Originally posted by kaxmir kaxmir wrote:

Same situation about growing my hair - my hair now is a little below my shoulders - bra line - I'm a girl - but about every 2 months I trim it about 1/4 of an inch.

Every thought of hair extentions?

Also, another good thing for your hair and scalp is mix about 1 part apple cider vinegar with 3 parts of a good shampoo for dry hair (Nature's Gate Herbal Shampoo) is really good, smells good - available in a health food store. Wash twice, rinse....condition

Make sure you don't get the vinegar/shampoo mixture in your eyes. Also make sure you use a good smelling conditioner because otherwise your head will smell like a salad.

The vinegar really removes all nasty scalp buildup from hair products etc.

Use this mixture every other shampoo. [[/IMG]


Eh, no hair extensions for me. I see no point in wearing fake hair for no reason. Although I want to buy a wig just for the hell of it People will see me with short hair one day and then long hair the next and be like wtf is going on I think it would be fun!

As for the other stuff, it seems like too much work for me. Remember I used to have dreads and I liked them because I didn't have to do anything to them.

Thanks for the suggestions though!
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Originally posted by FRUGiHOYi FRUGiHOYi wrote:


I would say my hair is probably about as wavy as it can be without being curly. I don't know about individual strands. I don't know how I would be able to tell if it's fine, medium, coarse... When I had my long hair, I think when I tied it back, it thick. I know it wasn't thin. You know what, here's a picture:



OK,

I addition to the advice that has been given, I want to thank you for adding a picture of your hair. Your hair type is very similar to my husbands.

He too had to cut it. Plain and simple - he and I were both growing our hair out. We both had a tendency to get frustrated and cut it off - so the "Race to the Butt" was born. Whoever got butt-length hair first had to take the other out to dinner of the winner's choice. Then the horrible day came. His workplace hired a consultant to come in and give them pointers on how to improve their image. (Bear in mind this is a motorcycle shop and most of the customers have long hair, piercings, tattoos, etc.) The first thing the consultant said was hubby's hair had to go. He had been working for them for seven years with long hair - broke every sales record that they had, and also had customers that would only work with him. If they drove by and hubby's truck wasn't in the lot they would come back when his truck was there. Well, hubby was told right there on the spot by his boss -- If you don't come to work tomorrow with your hair above the collar of your shirt, don't bother coming in. That night, I cut his "bra-length" hair off. Within a week, mine was gone too.

Now, he works for another motorcycle shop in town and a lot of his old customers have found him at the new locale. (The old boss lost sales of over $38,000 a month with one manufacturer alone.) His hair isn't as long as it used to be because it's a sore issue with him. I can, however, give you tips on how he takes care of it.

His hair is somewhat coarse, curly, and oily at the root. If he doesn't keep it washed, it turns into an oil slick rather quickly. The bottom half of his hair tends to be dry and frizzy more often than not.

He washes his scalp and conditions his hair. In other words, work the mild shampoo into your scalp. In reality that is the only place that really needs it. Then, he smooths the lather over his hair and lets it set. In the meantime he shaves, soaks, etc. Only need to leave it on for about a min or so. Rinse. Then apply conditioner. You want to use a mild, light conditioner so you don't weigh your hair down. Like I mentioned before, his hair tends to be oily at the scalp, and dry coarse and frizzy from mid-way down to the ends. Heavy conditioners tend to make the hair oily if you aren't careful.

For conditioning, start at about ear level, smooth down to the ends of the hair, and then whatever extra you have, start at the front hairline and smooth your hands over that area. If you just run your fingers through your hair a few times that should do it. Rinse with cool water.

Get in the habit of removing rings, bracelets, watch, etc. Also keep your nails cared for so you don't have rough edges. Snagging your hair on theses items while washing/conditioning can lead to split ends and breakage.

One day he ran out of his own styling creme and grabbed mine. I use Matrix Sleek Look products for my fine, thick, board-straight hair. He discovered that the Creme Extreme worked great for keeping his curls under control. Now, he uses that for his hair styling product.

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Originally posted by foxfan318 foxfan318 wrote:

...Your hair type is very similar to my husbands.

He too had to cut it. Plain and simple - he and I were both growing our hair out. We both had a tendency to get frustrated and cut it off - so the "Race to the Butt" was born. Whoever got butt-length hair first had to take the other out to dinner of the winner's choice. Then the horrible day came. His workplace hired a consultant to come in and give them pointers on how to improve their image. (Bear in mind this is a motorcycle shop and most of the customers have long hair, piercings, tattoos, etc.) The first thing the consultant said was hubby's hair had to go. He had been working for them for seven years with long hair - broke every sales record that they had, and also had customers that would only work with him. If they drove by and hubby's truck wasn't in the lot they would come back when his truck was there. Well, hubby was told right there on the spot by his boss -- If you don't come to work tomorrow with your hair above the collar of your shirt, don't bother coming in. That night, I cut his "bra-length" hair off. Within a week, mine was gone too.

Awww! Trix, that is a sad story! If I were your husband (I know, it's easy for me to say), I would have kept the hair and ditched the moronic boss, especially since your husband knew how valuable he was to the company.

Are you both re-growing your hair?
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