QuoteReplyTopic: Virgin Indian Remi Hair Posted: May 15 2005 at 7:55am
Excuse the stream-of-consciousness-ish nature of this post but I had a few things I wanted to throw out there.
I found what appears to be a really awesome Indian supplier. As you know I'm in the import business so I've been putting this guy through the rigors and he seems to be faring very well. I received my samples and am quite pleased. If this works well I will be selling it at slightly higher costs than below. The costs below are my costs.
The smallest amount of hair that can be bought is a kilo which is a relatively small amount of hair, but a boatload of hair for an individual(2.2 lbs). The virgin hair is all double-drawn and in machine-tied wefts; prices below include shipping to the US. AGAIN NOTE THIS IS FOR 2.2 lbs; that is the equivalent of EIGHT good-sized bags of 4-oz. hair.
The colors are also double-drawn but are on hand-tied wefts and are an additional $45/kilo.
Textures available are straight, wavy, and curly. The straight has body to it; I wouldn't recommend the wavy or curly.
16"- 17" -- $325 (approx. $37 for 4 oz.) 18" - 19" -- $370 (approx $42 for 4 oz.) 20"- 21" -- $425 (approx $49 for 4 oz.) 22"- 23" -- $455 (approx $52 for 4 oz.)
I am checking to see if a kilo can be broken down into various colors/textures.
Below are the dark colors, shown in "straight". The totally virgin "1" is on the right:
Below are the dark blondes, colors 15, 17, and 12. (The hair on the right is this Indian hair; I put it next to color rings so you could compare). These have been bleached to reach this color (by the suppliers) but the hair is in good shape. I have washed it, tipped it, and am wearing it.
I have been experimenting with bleaching this hair to light blonde. I bleached it using the harshest of materials (40 vol. peroxide + bleach + heat in the oven). It came up to this color in about 15 minutes. I am going to try 20 vol and 30 vol next.
I am wearing some of the bleached-to-613 color and will report later on how it holds up.
If you get the totally virgin hair it is machine-wefted. Here is a picture of the weft:
Anyway, is anyone interested in giving this a try?
Comments, suggestions, etc. . .
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Sherrie what have you done to bleach virgin hair ? ? I know you wear a 613. I am a natural, like *2*, so I bleached this hair using the same thing my hairdresser uses on mine. However I was able to put the hair in the oven (YES I did that. . . at less than 200 degrees) which helped it come up really quickly. . .
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FinaFina....Ive never done it. Ive been purchasing my preglued hair from Korea in the #613 for the past couple of years. But quality and customer service has went to HELL in the past 6 months so it isnt an option anymore.
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OK, well then I'll continue the experimentation. So far the results for color have been really great; and the really cool thing is I know *exactly* what has been done to the hair. I don't see why it wouldn't hold up. I'll send a photo of the double-drawn batch I bleach today and I'll send you some samples. Just PM me with your info. The stuff I have in my hair is gorgeous. I just went for a run but after I do my hair I'll post photos.
YES YES YES . I can use #4 warm brown and maybe some a little darker or little lighter. with a wave or loose curl. If it's good I would get this for client's too!
Very very cool. I would love to try some. I'll PM you.
I was SUPPOSED to do an install a few weeks back with some of the
hair SAS gave me. It was at the colorist for almost a month and it
came back completely *ucked up. Man, I should post photos of it.
This was a beautiful dark brown wavy weft that was supposed to
come back three shades of blonde. SAS did not recommend the 40
vol. so I passed that along and the colorist said she wouldn't use it. It
came back and the weft bled into the hair and it has an orange cast
to it. The "darker blonde" has red tones and is brassy as hell. I will
NOT give her another one of SAS's beautiful wefts to ruin again.
So, how exactly is this dark brown/black hair supposed to be lifted at
home? I want to do it myself but I have zero experience in coloring.
Fina (or anyone please jump in), can the supplies to color like this be
bought at Sally's? What do I need exactly?
when i mix up bleach i get a large spoon of bleach and mix it with peroxide til it goes a creamy texture, then i apply it :) Bleach is quite simple really just check it every FIVE minutes on extension hair!
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I'm interested. How does the hair feel to you? Is it white-girl fine and smooth or is it on the coarser side? Not that I expect a perfect texture match, but some Indian hair is not a good blend for white girl hair like mine, although the colors blend great (#4 or med dk brn).
I'll be interested to hear how the 613 works out. I'm impressed that
you were able to lift it that high. Did it start out dark brown, or had
they already prebleached it a bit?
I'd be interested as well! Like Syren said, I'm curious about the texture though. My own hair is so fine. It look coarser in the weft pic than the others, but maybe that's just an illusion b/c of the resolution of the pic.)
I've never heard of putting hair in the oven to process with heat before. That's quite a trick
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I didn't get around to further processing of the hair yesterday because I was jacking around with that useless Bohyme weft I have in light orange (what they called 27/613). Anyway the GREAT NEWS is. . .I have toned it to a GORGEOUS beige/blonde!!
Jenny/Mocha: Yes the weft if funky. . . it's very nice, neat, tiny. . .I don't know if it's a zig-zag cuz I'm not a weft expert. It's unlike anything I've ever seen; it reminds me of teeny-tiny rick-rack (?). It is no larger than 1/8" from top to bottom. Jenny I'll keep you posted on creating the 613. As I said, the stuff I put in my own hair yesterday is GORGEOUS.
Amm: I don't think 40 volume bleach is bad per se. My own hair is very very dark and I speak from experience: if you want those gorgeous pale blonde results you have to use high-volume bleach and heat. I was amazed that this stuff came up as quickly as it did, and I think it's because you can do things with it (i.e. put it in the oven) that you could never do with hair-on-your-head.
And yes, everything is available in a beauty supply store but the world of hair color is an entire other black hole of time.
I am limiting the number of colors to what the supplier has (those dark blondes and virgin) because I don't want to get into the unpredictable world of hair color. . .
Syren: The hair doesn't feel coarse. It's not baby-fine either. It has almost the *exact* feel of the straight Softwear I got at EP, and it looks almost exactly the same.
Zapevaj: It is like a mild body-wave. NOT French Refined.
I'm waiting to hear back from the supplier. If possible I would like to order 1 KG to start with: half of it in, say, a #15 (one of the dark blondes), and half of it virgin. I will get the 20-21" 'bodywave' (straight) and continue to jack with the colors. I'll send samples galore and we can see if we've found a treasure trove. . .
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Fina, for that price I am interested in trying it also. I have colored my Black Bliss hair before so I think I will just get the natural Indian hair from you and do it myself since I know what color to use (which matches mine to a T). The natural comes on a weft, right? When are you able to sell this stuff to us? Oh, and how are the ends? Do I need to order a much longer length?
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