Darrin I can`t answer for everyone but I can explain my own thoughts. Up to the age of 18 I grew up in a home that my father was military. The community was tight knit and no males had long hair. It never really crossed my mind what my thoughts were. For me this was reality and was accepted. My own late husband had a similar type of background. Many many times I heard nasty things about guys thinking of growing their hair when I was growing up. I will not repeat it because it hold no truft nor I believe in that. This country girl moved to the city and today is surrounded by men who have long hair and are very attracted. I tend to have art friend and last year was invited to a art party which included over 60 people or so from all kinds of working backgrounds but mostly artist. All those guys had ponytails including my male friend that I have known for at least 20 years. The other guest were TV personal, writers, etc and had short hair.
I think it is hard to break from that kind of background but if we are expose to the type of background I am in now women accept more. For me long hair on a man that is kept clean, trimmed draws my attention wondering what he is all about. What is the mystery for this guy to grow his hair etc. People put so many labels on others. I know that I have worked hard and is known to be pretty acceptive of others and their choices now. It is very much our flaw as human to judge others.
Why do a lot of woman hate guys with long hair? I have thick blonde long hair down to mid-back, and I have heard women say behind my back that they hate my hair. They say things like "he would be a nice looking guy if he had short hair", or they refuse to go out with me based on my hair style. I was thinking of cutting it a year and a half a go, and I am glad I didn`t! I would have been growing it back right now!
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For me, naw, I`ll just save the money I would be spending on all that extra stuff and use it for cheesecake! We are few and far between, but we are proud! Karen Marie
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I know that the message is for Duke but I had to point out something. what makes you so special Karen Marie is that you didn`t have a fear of showing your passion and it shows all over your web pages. Personally I admire you very much for your strength and openess in sharing your knowledge. Yes women like yourself are rare. I will tease you and say it wasn`t money that made you decide to save. It was something within you that was so strong and made you happy with your decision. I am sure that once in a while you buy fashion etc but you have no lack of confidence when it comes to your looks and how you present yourself. I had a mentor that visited this site and others and had very long hair. All of sudden she decided to cut her hair and some people really resented her for it. She knew I would understand her position in life. I am very protective of my internet friend. I was sad because this was my mentor and then I realize that it is nice to have a mentor but the most important thing in life is to be happy with ourselves .
My grandmother would say when we are totally happy with our lives we can move mountains without problems that eveything that is awful flies off our backs and it doesn`t affect us. LIke that stupid talk show that never influence you one bit. No harm in asking you but you knew what you wanted and had no problem saying it. That is the powerful beauty within you. That what makes you one of those very rare and special women and believe me don`t ever allow someone to talk you into something that you don`t want to do or you will personally regret your decisions.
IN my make believe thoughts ( BArbie my favorite doll)I think that Barbie had it made with all her careers and yet she kept her hair. Barbie knows how to have fun, gets all the good looking guys, careers and never looks old with her hair and I think if we women come a tiny bit close to Barbie`s nature we wouldn`t have any problems lol. The idea behind Barbie was she could do anything and never stop dreaming.
I used to work in an office full of fashion-trendy women. Heaven help the woman who wore the "wrong" shoes, the "wrong" color, and Lord help the poor soul discovered to be wearing K-Mart clothing. Don`t get me wrong, I shop at Goodwill by choice!
Some women (please note that I said SOME) feel compelled to give in to many things, fashion being a big one. I do it myself in some ways...color schemes of the home can be one example.
But the subject is hair.
If a woman thinks that her long hair is as drab and lifeless as it is portrayed on the commercials, she may rush out to buy that miracle product, get that miracle haircut, etc. to fit the bill of the latest, the greatest, the hottest in fashion.
Then again, some women are simply ready for a new look, and not giving in to the demands of fashion, but perhaps genuinely tired of a style or just in the mood for a change.
For others, I guess if it makes them happy, they should do it. For me, naw, I`ll just save the money I would be spending on all that extra stuff and use it for cheesecake!
We are few and far between, but we are proud!
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Yes Gord long hair rocks. I will always agree to this. I just want you to respect women`s wishes. Being bitter. Well I will take that as a compliment being that I always respected my husband`s wishes to never allow men on the internet to see my picture according to his rules, nor did i ever respected any men sending me nude stupid pictures of long hair women and think that was art, nor did i ever allow myself to be part of a long hair collections to some men. Gee Gord don`t be so personal. Just accept that. i have hight standards and was a very good wife. yOu want to insult me . Fine. Don`t expect me to agree with you when it comes to disrespecting women. I am not continuing with this. You posted something that should have been on the hair politics.
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If you support long hair then will are you spending your time trying to warn people about shows? Warning people does not promote more long hair women.
Actually your topic belonged on the politic board as you mentioned that my response was also. Do you seriously think that once a woman watches such a show it will promote cuts? If so I don't believe you have much confidence in the way women make their decisions. That is my point. Like I said Gord, not a stupid talk show will convince me or anyone that cares about keeping their hairlong to cut it. NOr warning about talk show will encourage or whatever. Get real no one is name calling you for goodness sakes. I said you were clueless because of your reaction. Some women grow their hair because they don't want to be bother with styling short hair and really don't care one way or the other what happens. Shows or not they would have cut their hair. Some women had the same length since birth and are tired of their look. So what. What makes me wonder why it bothers you so much that a strange woman that you will never meet affects you this way?
Diane, you have grown so bitter over the years for whatever reason. You spend so much time getting your point across and I really don`t know why. We get it. We get it. My motto: Live and let live. Maury Povich`s show is fair discussion for this show. Nothing you have written has changed the way I feel. Long hair rocks. The haircuts on his show blow. In my humble opinion, none of the haircuts on the most recent show improved their appearance. Several lost mountains of sexiness. Feel free to respond to my reduntant claims in three e-mail messages or less.
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If you support long hair then will are you spending your time trying to warn people about shows? Warning people does not promote more long hair women.
Actually your topic belonged on the politic board as you mentioned that my response was also. Do you seriously think that once a woman watches such a show it will promote cuts? If so I don`t believe you have much confidence in the way women make their decisions. That is my point. Like I said Gord, not a stupid talk show will convince me or anyone that cares about keeping their hairlong to cut it. NOr warning about talk show will encourage or whatever. Get real no one is name calling you for goodness sakes. I said you were clueless because of your reaction. Some women grow their hair because they don`t want to be bother with styling short hair and really don`t care one way or the other what happens. Shows or not they would have cut their hair. Some women had the same length since birth and are tired of their look. So what. What makes me wonder why it bothers you so much that a strange woman that you will never meet affects you this way?
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The "duty" idea promoted by the media is a good point but it could be elabrated to say: the duty is disguised as "attractive": actually the "duty" is to be FASHIONABLE. I wonder if those who design fashion trends really care about whether the users will look attractive, or if they`re just out to make money. Of course the users assume that just because it`s in style it`s attractive.
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It is so sad to see that you have become so full of hatred and clueless. I do support long hair but not to the point of controling others.
I support long hair, women who have long hair and others who love long hair. How is that a sign that I "have become so full of hatred and clueless?" I am full of love and am not a namecaller. I do not degrade others on this site or others. Mirror, mirror on the wall...
YOu have an excellent point. I find that lots of men including women do have this attitude that it is a woman`s duty to be attractive especially the older group. You also have another excellent point. YOu don`t watch Maury because you don`t like the topic. Turn the channel.
I believe in the US there is a definate media skew towards getting women to spend much time & money trying to look good. Like it`s a women`s duty to be attractive. Women are continually encouraged to spend their hard earned money on beauty products, and beauty parlors. Women, from the time they are born are sold on all this materialistic stuff. We are bred to prioritize "good grooming" and consequently end up feeding a multimillion dollar cosmetics industry. I don`t chose to watch Maury`s hair butchering shows, because I don`t like the topic. I see at as yet another attempt to get women hooked on salon stylists, when they were really better off -- better looking and spending less money -- with their natural long hair. I don`t relate to Diane`s anger and I also don`t like when people use foul language to try to get their point across.
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The other thought that some of those internet guys have that have often expressed with written words is that they fear that if us women see these shows it will encourage us to cut our hair. I as a woman that makes trivial and major decisions in life concerning myself and my children etc cannot accept being put in a group as a child having men decide what is best for me to watch. I as a woman can easily see that such shows wouldn`t have an affect on any woman who really wants to keep her long hair like myself and others.
Those women who have contacted the show wanted to cut their hair and it wasn`t a stupid show that caused that. Not watching Maury does not promote long hair or whatever. It is useless to hate such shows as we only have one life so we should spend it being happy. It is a decision from our heart to have long hair and that is why I totally resent such thoughts that we Women are so fragile that we will fall into the hell of getting a new look talk shows! I find that such thoughts are not respectful toward us.
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. Did any of the women say, "Oh man, I am so sick of this hair. Let`s just get rid of it. Cut it. Please!"?
Yes Jennifer often they say that they want a change and often they mention why. NO the shows are not making fun of women with long hair. It is about having a new look only. Some men on the internet are upset and want to hate Maury or any organization that is involved in cutting hair because it goes against their fantasy of long hair. By spreading such hatred is also encouraging this thing that women shouldn`t have the right to do what they want with their hair. They will sugar coat it but it reallly comes down to the fact that they feel less long hair women on earth so they want to hate Maury. Nevermind that we women are human beings and should be able to make our decisions. Too bad Gordon topic wasn`t in the politic where it belonged.
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I don`t watch television and thus didn`t see the haircutting show. This is what I`ve gathered (and I could be wrong). Whether the women wanted to cut their hair or not (I assume they did or they wouldn`t be there), the impression is that they were somehow being coerced into doing the "right" thing. Did any of the women say, "Oh man, I am so sick of this hair. Let`s just get rid of it. Cut it. Please!"? Obviously I don`t know, but I`m guessing that didn`t happen.
Thus, the impression could be that these "wild" women let their hair run amok and thus had to be tamed by the guy with the literal shears. It`s show business, and that kind of a theme is probably a lot more perversely stimulating than if the women just calmly asked for a haircut. So, in a sense, these kinds of shows are making fun of women with long hair.
Diane, Not to be rude, but must you always write such long posts? Also, it seems to me that you are always trying to start an argument or somthing with your comments.
Diane, I think you know that for as many men on the Internet who are obsessed with long hair, there are at least as many men obsessed with cutting it off. Personally I find the latter obsession far less healthy, but in any case most of us fall somewhere between the two extremes.
I too don`t understand all the fuss over the Maury Povich show. The man is one step above Jerry Springer and it`s not like he is ever worth watching. Nor are the women who participate women whom I had ever seen before or will ever see again. I don`t watch the show. I am not affected by it.
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