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    Posted: September 21 2004 at 6:49pm
Hi Layla,

I can't say I do.. but lately I've been researching different properties of affordable clays such as Bentonite and Kaolin. Many people have had success with a clay based shampoo-- just clay, water, and with or without honey/molasses. Sometimes an essential oil can be added. I'll be sure to post my results with this sometime after I try some combinations.

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Edited to add: I can recommend jojoba oil, shea butter, and avocado oil for both hair and skin. I don't have any specific recipes that are written down. I have made lotion bars with the above ingredients and they turned out lovely. It's 1/3 part beeswax, 1/3 part any butter such as shea or kokum, 1/3 part an oil mixture. Melt the beeswax and add everything else, when liquefied pour into molds or lotion sticks.
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It went well. I have so much hair that I'm not sure if I didn't shampoo it out enough. But it doesn't matter to me. My hair came out softer and that's all that matters to me. I have African-American hair so my scalp isn't oily so oils wouldn't make my hair look greasy or anything. Do you have any other natural recipes for hair care?
Type: 3c/4a Natural
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Goal: Healthy, tip of nose /neck/shoulder length hair.
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Layla! How'd the deep oiling go? First time I ever did it, I didn't shampoo it out well enough.. I'm such a goof.
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okay I didnt heat up the oil. i just rubbed it in my hands to warm it up a bit and put a shower cap on and a warm damp towel over it.
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I suppose you could, but then that's a whole another process (I think it's called hot oiling). Normally if you put on a shower cap, your body heat should be enough. A small amount of heat would open your cuticles, making them more receptive to the moisture. Or so I've heard.

Good luck!
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Do you have to heat up the oil when you deep oil? I'm thinking about doing it right now.
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Do you get an oily scalp or dandruff? That would require washing at least every other day. If you don't have those two issues, then the less you wash per week the better (as long as it looks decent). Ideally, I go twice a week because my hair is about mid-backish approaching waist. It keeps my hair oils from being stripped away.

Coarse hair can also get too dry, faster than fine hair can. ("coarse", not "thick") Then again, thick hair also means the scalp oils are distributed over more hair.

To prevent dryness (which is a huge problem for the majority of thickhairs and coarsehairs, find a shampoo with a gentle "surfactant" (cleanser). Read the labels and find something that says "sodium laureth sulfate". I think Suave Professional's Color Care shampoo has it. Make sure it's the exact spelling, because there are very similar ingredients that are harsh (avoid "sodium lauryl sulfate" and anything that says "ammonium").

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my hair type is wavy, a little past my sholders, very thick
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Depends on your hair type. Please describe your hair: curl/wave, length, thickness, fineness/coarsness etc...
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and does someone know the best shampoo 2 use?
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does any one knows how often to wash ur hair ur hair. i know it's base on ur hair type but can someone tell me please.
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Oooh, don't get anything that says "contains jojoba oil" or "contains coconut oil" because they're not half as good as the real thing. "Hot oils" often contain other chemicals like thickening agents and preservatives that are not necessarily good for hair.

If you want to deep/heavy oil, get the real natural deal Jojoba is sold cheap in bulk on the internet. Just make sure it's the real thing, 100% pure, simmondsia chinensis, and the golden color.

When you deep oil with jojoba or coconut oil, you'll want to shampoo and condition your hair afterwards like a normal hairwash. This requires shampooing the length, but if you only heavy oil once a week, you can avoid shampooing the length too much.

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ohhh...yesterday i was at sally's and there was a couple of products that had jojoba oil in it, most of which were the hot oil treatments...do u think that hot oil treatments are just as good because from wht i heard they build up in your hair and dont really do any good. also if i bought coconut oil do i just put it on and then rinse it out...does it leave any residue on my hair and also do i have to blow dry it at all while its on?? thX for your heLp!
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MISCELLANY

I buy my oils from soapmakers or soapmaking ingredients sites such as mystifyyoursenses.com or cedarvale.net , which buy and sell in large quantities. If you need only a small quantity, then Hairboutique does sell both coconut and jojoba on their Marketplace site.

Coconut oil is much cheaper and it lasts a long time; the liquid coconut oil is great (doesn't clog pores) and the solid kind is easy to measure. Both have their pluses. Jojoba is better for hair but it is more than 3x as expensive. Coconut costs about $2-3 a pound, while Jojoba can be upwards of $8/16 fluid ounces. But d*mn is jojoba oil worth the money! They call it liquid gold for a reason.

WHERE TO BUY

Some Walmarts sell coconut oil. And you know those stores at the mall that have herbal supplements and such? They often have an oil selection. And they'll probably have coconut oil. Ask the information desk at your local mall, or look up health food stores in the yellowpages. One such health food store is called Pilgrim's Nutrition Center. Also, you can find coconut oil at places like foreign grocery stores (Indian or Middle Eastern grocers).

Jojoba is not sold cheaply in stores. If you buy it in a store, it's around $8 per 4 oz. If you buy online, it's maybe $10 per 16 oz plus mild shipping.

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wht do u think is better jojoba oil or cocunut oil, and by health food stores do u mean like grocery stores or somethin?? can u gimme an example, and also how often and how should it be applied...thX for you heLp!!
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Yes!! Olive oil is great and many people have great luck with it. Be sure to shampoo it out really well because it will want to stick to your hair and weigh it down. Olive is a heavier oil than jojoba and others.
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ok thanks, do you think i could use olive oil?
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It's where you oil with a cheap carrier oil, like Coconut oil (great) or Sweet Almond (both are found in health food stores or online from soapmaker ingredient websites) ... and then you leave it in for as long as possible. Wash it out with your regular shampoo and finish with a conditioner. The oils will seep into your hair for a deep moisture treatment. I've seen a lot less frizz with this routine.

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hey anais, what is deep oiling?
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thank you AnaisSatin
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