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    Posted: December 18 2004 at 6:07am
Hi Issac! It's good to see you here.

To anyone in the NYC area, you should definitely stop by Cyberparlor. Isaac has done my hair several times and aways does an awesome, nondamaging job at a reasonable price with no B.S. And he uses really good quality hair, too. I can't recommend him highly enough.
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I have used the bohyme hair for around 7 years now.

I use it on almost all my clients.

The hair has cuticals dame direction and the do something with running water over it to make it smooth.

If anyone is in NYC feel free to stop by and I can show you some.

I love there hair. So do the clients .

You can use it over and over.

I should sell the stuff:)

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If it wears well, I'll be gettin' me some of that Boyhme Boogers hair.
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Hey Kristin, I saw that. I don't know if I'm 100% convinced of it though. I notice the trademark copyright next to Bohyme but not next to the word Remi so you'd think they'd have it there too. More research.

But if it's a play on words, I think that's misleading.

I also noticed that it said it's the first 100% remi hair available on the market. What does that mean? I do know that Virgin Hair, with cuticles intact and facing the same direction is not in the market place(Like at Beauty Supply Stores) you have to know specifically where to order it from.



Here's what I think. I think Bohyme Collects this hair and honestly does try to line up the cuticles, but knowing that this is probably near impossible because it's collected from multiple donors, they've come up with this really good process to strip the cuticles but what makes their hair so much better than BSS hair is their valiant effort to align the cuticles in the first place. Thus cuticle-free hair with the majority aligned is somehow better than cuticle-free hair with no attempts to have it aligned.

I also think their copyright of Remi is a play on words. I think REMY, means one donor, cuticles aligned and intact. And I think REMI is Bohymes attempt it capitalize on the reputation of REMY hair.

I think they're able to get away with it because they have managed to continue to make really good hair.

I've heard few complaints about Bohyme so I'm eager to try it for myself. If it's good, to be honest I don't care what they call it. They can call it Bohyme Boogers and I'll be their biggest spokes person.
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Hey Afro Puffs,
Did you see my post on "Remy" and "Remi"?

I was told that Bohyme has trademarked the word "Remi" which isn't actually "Remy"

Funny huh?

I'm still confused about the cuticles too....
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I don't understand why they say they take this painstaking effort to ensure the cuticles are in the same direction only to remove them? If they're going to remove the cuticile It doesn't matter what direction the cuticle lies in.

They are using creative wording if you ask me.

Thanks for the pic. It clearly shows hair where the cuticles have been removed or "cleansed".. how they can call this hair remi, I have no idea.

My Bohyme should be here today or tomorrow. I can't wait to try it and compare it to true remi hair. I'm anxious to see how it cooperates.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cali-Kristin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2004 at 10:21am
Haha... That's exactly what I typed up in an earlier post.... That's taken from the side of their package.

Thanks for posting it
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Hey i found this at hairdeportbeautysupply.com This might help?
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(my name) as you may not have known we do not suggest placing any product in the hair at all.
If for any reason you find that you did need a product we offer a variety of such that works well on our hair. If you do not wish to purchase our product then we always offer an alternative which is Herbal Essence or Biolage. These products do not have a concentrated protein base if any at all.
Protein will breakdown the hair as it is no longer attached to a folical. So since we do not know which proteins are good and which ones are bad we say be careful and stay away from high concentrated shampoos and conditioners with proteins.Especially Nexxus.From this point forward just wash the hair and let it dry naturally. When brushing the hair please start at the bottom section by section. Do not stress or stretch the hair. If the SSMOOTH does not hold a curl to your liking stick with what you know. And if the body wave is your choice then go for it. Ultimately the decision is yours and I can only give you the information on hand. i can't say one way or the other what is best for you. Consult your local stylist maybe they can give you a better direction. We hope our advise helps you.

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I found the above exchange on another site about what products to use on Bohyme hair. Interesting. Looks as if products with high protein amounts breaks the hair down.
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Jeez! See? No one knows for sure!

And we all wonder why we end up with crappy hair sometimes.

It's like spinning a russian hair roulette and seeing what you wind up with.
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From hairaddition.com

Quote ristin,
Remi hair is virgin hair, and Bohyme hair has cuticles. They are the same in the sence that they were bothe cut from the head rather than
colected, so all of the hair is going in one direction; which means the hair will not tangle easily and will in turn last longer. I hope this has been helpful, please write back to us at this address or call us
toll free at: 888- 947- 9447 for any other questions or concerns.

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Sheez.... Everyone's response is different....
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How funny..... I e-mailed a few of the biggest suppliers of "remi" and "bohyme" hair..... no one could get their stories straight.... I'm still waiting on a few responses but here are some that I have gotten:

Quote rom Hairz.com:
Hello,
Basically Remi hair is made of youthful hair only. Hair must be cut from sources retaining the original direction. Even though cuticles are removed from hair, remaining cuticles are the main reason for tangle. By aligning cuticles the same direction just like your hair, it reduced the tangle significantly.
Thank you.
Regards,

Hairz Online Support Team


Quote rom ebonyline.com:
Hi,
How are you doing.
The remi is the trade mark of Bohyme. Others cannot use the word, the remy explictly. The remi means that hairs are arranged by the same direction, one end is the root and the other hair end. By arranging hairs in the the same direction, it
prevents tangle and promote better feeling. Most of hairs are not arranged by the same direction.
Even though other company cannot use the remi word, there are some remi hair. We carry only two brands of remi, Bohyme and Fusion Hair. Even Black Diamond is not Remi hair.

The Cuticle is not defined exactly but is the circular
look of hair. The health hair has smooth cuticle that
has no damage on hair. You imagine hair is a long round tube. If the hair is damaged, the surface of hait is not round hair. Then you can say the cticle is damaged. Simply, think the cuticle is a single hair.
I am not sure about virinn with a single word.
In Bohyme hair, we select hairs from only healthy
young people which gurantee the quality.


Quote rom hairandextensions.com:
Thank you for your inquiry,
If the hair is collected from one donor and sewed , it is called Remy hair(also called virgin
hair). Usually hair cuticles are on different directions before treated and causing tangled
hair. These cuticles are treated to make all these cuticles in one direction. When the cuticles are
in one direction, the hair becomes tangle free.

The quality of hair is the same in both Remy and Bohyme but manufactured by two different companies

Bohyme is a brand name...


I thought the response from ebonyline.com was interesting.... I never noticed that there was "remi" and "remy"

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thanks for all your replys... i did not mean to start controversy...i have always just wondered the diiference as i like to know all there is to know about extensions... again thanks for all the relpys and happy holidays!
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Originally posted by Jennifer_R Jennifer_R wrote:

Interesting. Is there a lot of difference between the way these types of hair look and feel? Would it make sense, for example, to buy Remi virgin, if you just have to dye or perm it yourself anyway? Or does it make more sense to buy the hair pre-treated? What's the cost difference? And what have you had the most luck with? (Again, I'm not very knowledgable about different kinds of hair. I've used hisandher cuticle, which I thought was great, but I've also gotten hair that's pretty good for a much better price....)


Well I personally like pure virgin remi because it doesn't tangle and matt like beauty supply store hair. I wear my hair dark so the remi hair from India is fine with me, I did have to dye some batches darker though because the brown was too light, but some batches were a good match. I know some girls who bleach the hair and then dye it the color they want.

But with me being black, I find the texture of remi hair is too fine when I want to wear it straight and I have blending issues. Which is why I'm eager to try Bohyme because it's been texturized to blend with black hair. If it can keep it's bounce and swing for months on end then this will be the hair for me. Regardless if it's Remi or not. I'm looking for the best hair.

As far as price differences go. Bohyme is significantly cheaper than Remi hair from India. Prices have shot up in the past few months for remi.

But in answer to your question, Remi hair from India has worked very well for me in regards that it doesn't matt and tangle. The straight was too fine so I put a curly perm in it but I'm searching for a straight brand that can blend with my hair. Beauty Supply Store Yaki brand blends but it's useless after a week.

But again it's all trial and error. Everyone has to find the hair that works for them.

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I apologize. I misread your post. I thought you said "I'm not trying to see your side". I'll edit my post.

But good luck on your quest to define Remi hair.
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(edited)

As to above with stating you can do braids with it.... I was just simply saying how I've been told to do it so it doesn't fold over and become a tangled mess....

I just was unsure as to if remi=virgin=cuticle.....

Never the less, I plan on finding out because I simply want to know..... I'm not saying you're wrong... Infact, I appreciate your input...

I'll let you know when I find out anything.... we'll see, maybe you're right....



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Interesting. Is there a lot of difference between the way these types of hair look and feel? Would it make sense, for example, to buy Remi virgin, if you just have to dye or perm it yourself anyway? Or does it make more sense to buy the hair pre-treated? What's the cost difference? And what have you had the most luck with? (Again, I'm not very knowledgable about different kinds of hair. I've used hisandher cuticle, which I thought was great, but I've also gotten hair that's pretty good for a much better price....)
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Originally posted by Jennifer_R Jennifer_R wrote:

I don't have much to add here, either. But I'm suspicious of companies that claim their hair is virgin or all cut from the same head when it's wine-red or platinum blonde and 28 inches long. I just don't see how that's possible without tons of dyeing and bleaching, which, of course, would seriously damage the cuticle--not to mention straightening, perming, relaxing, and so on.

I also don't see how all the hair from one person's head would stay in tact after processing and distribution, and then be enough for another person's head, but I suppose it's possible.




Hi Jennifer. This is my point exactly. Bohyme hair is collected strand by strand, dyed, and texturized. The cuticles have obviously been compromised.

When I order Pure Remi hair. It only comes in the color of the donor which is usually Dark brown since it comes from India. You can only order it in straight or wavy and if you want color or texture to it, you have to have it done. Some places will do it for you though for extra cost but they no longer consider it virgin. But with pure remi, it's literally cut off the girls head, immediatly wefted, and mailed out. No processing except treatment for lice is done.


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Edited because I misread.

But Bohyme,Remi, or whatever else. I think all hair is trial and error. What works for one may not work another.

When it comes to weave, because it's no longer attached to the follicle, we can't expect it to be perfect. So people have to use what works for them.

When my bohyme arrives I'll report back on how I like it
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