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    Posted: January 21 2005 at 10:09am
Did someone say class action lawsuit? Count me in!
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A class action lawsuit seems to be what the doctor's ordering here.

I, for one, have my original flyer from Hairlocs when I had mine done that claim they're "The safest extension on the market." That's quite a bold statement for a company whose product leeches into your hair and eats away at your cuticle.

If this company comes here and willingly addresses us here in an open forum, they will answer questions here in the open forum for all to read.

They don't have the balls. They don't have the integrity. Furthermore, they're afraid of the accountability and the evidence once they start putting things out in the open.

Feh.
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I think "Rep" is saying that after spending thousands of dollars on a product that stained, broke, and effectively ruined our hair--and after refusing to refund us for one thin dime--the company has generously agreed to listen to our concerns.

Now that's a magnanimous offer.

In this new spirit of collaboration, is there anything else we can do for you? Screen your stylists? Conduct your training? Work your phones? Design a whole new product you can sell?

Uggghhhhh.................
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i dont understand what the rep is saying. is hairlocs offering to refund the clients? i dont see why they should contact the rep, since they already explained it all on the forums.
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Originally posted by Hairlocs Rep Hairlocs Rep wrote:

At this time we realize that we need more information from you to confront these problems. If you could be so kind to talk to us. We know there are two sides to every story. The more information we have the more we can grow and educate others. Any information would be helpful. You are more than welcome to call us and speak to the owner.


Sorry for butting in, but, what does this have to do with the fact that copper breaks down the hair cuticle?

I believe that amm has already posted those links a few times IIRC

Are you guys aware of that or not? If not, are you actively looking into it, and verifying it?
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Sorry, what was your name again?
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At this time we realize that we need more information from you to confront these problems. If you could be so kind to talk to us. We know there are two sides to every story. The more information we have the more we can grow and educate others. Any information would be helpful. You are more than welcome to call us and speak to the owner.
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And just to keep this thread on top for you, Hairlocs Rep...

Can you tell us if you're even remotely aware of the scientific evidence of how copper breaks down the cuticle of human hair?

Perhaps if you acknowledge that at the beginning, we might get somewhere.

And then, I'd personally like to see you refund every cent to miamigirl as an act of good faith.

Tell us all here if that's doable.
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I happened to have written to the hairlocsinc@aol.com address and the person who responded to my concerns was named Christy. I wrote about the green hair and the corrosion of the copper locs and she gave me the royal brush off.

After I wrote a lengthy letter, she wrote back,

"Thanks for your info. We're aware of the green. It washes off."

That was IT!

I wrote back and asked how Hairlocs proposes I do that being I have 200 strands in and they are ALL green and corroding under there. I asked if they were suggesting I remove them one by one, scrape the green off and then reapply? She wrote back,

"Go see your stylist."

I am not even close to kidding. I still have the email.

You call this help? Is this Hairloc's idea of help? I went straight to the source and this is the "helpful" response of your representive.

Again, her name was Christy.

What's yours?
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Has anyone who has had a problem with a hairlocs stylist or the system called the company directly so that they are aware of these problems?

The owner of Hairlocs is aware there have been some complaints about one stylists in particular and is open and willing to hear what has happened to rectify any problems.

Please call, email, fax a letter, by whichever means necessary so that she can get details as to the problems occuring. These problems could have been caused by inexperienced or negligent stylists.

These problems need to be directed to the company so they can intervene and offer assistance to clients who have paid to have a high end service done.

Maria Arroyo, is the owner and inventor of Hairlocs and would like to hear of those who have misrepresented or misused her product.

Thank You
Fax:818-506-0902
phone:(877) 395-6136
email: worldinfo@hairlocs.com
email: hairlocsinc@aol.com
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That's the problem....most of us didn't come to this site before getting the hairlocs. Had I found this information sooner, there is no way that I would have gone forward with it.
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Hmmm. Imagine that, another unhappy hairloc's customer. You know, with every method there are bad experiences, but theres something wrong when you hear so many horror stories on one particular method. I've NEVER heard so many bad stories of any other method. I cant believe after reading all these reviews that anyone that comes here would even consider that method. It scares me for all those people that dont have access or know about this information!
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I don't know. Wouldn't doubt it, though.

Did you ever see this hairlocs review, by the way: http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/Forum110/HTML/002596.html

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I wonder if anyone has ever tried to get their money back from the company instead of the stylist.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jenny_RR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2005 at 8:54am
Oh, sure--just check out the photos on the boards, and you'll see exactly how "safe" they are.
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Actually, this is a quote from the hairlocs site (don't laugh)

"Safe for all hair types, Hairlocs was invented for fine and fragile hair and designed to be safe for years of use. "

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Well, it wasn't "designed" for your hair at all--no extensions are designed for hairloss, although toppers/integration pieces are. All of this talk about "natural shedding" is quite overblown, imo. Everyone natural sheds 100 or so hairs a day, but that wouldn't at all create the sort of difficulty you had with Hairlocs. The fact is, you weren't a candidate for them, or any other kind of extensions. Period. Anyone who knows anything about hairloss would know that, so they never should've been applied in the first place. That was mistake #1 (of course there were others along the way with your Hairlocs debacle, but it was simply the wrong product for you).
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Is your reaction also dependent on what type of hair that you have? I saw an extensions expert towards the end of my 8 weeks of hairlocs hell, who told me that I was never a candidate for extensions because of how thin my hair is on top. Also, she said that I wasn't losing them because of "natural shedding" as Kimarie said, but because of the fact that I had a piece of metal clamping down on my hair causing the breakage. I don't understand how this product could have been designed for people with hair like mine, despite what Kimarie claims.
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Well, I'm not exactly sure, but I have a few ideas.

My experience with hairlocs was that I primarily had damage where the loc was clamped down on the hair, not from the actual root. The hair that came out at the roots, and there was some of that too, was caused by the fact that the hairlocs weren't very secure, so they were slipping and would sometimes "pull" the real hair with them--perhaps because they were heavier than my own hair?

Why the hair was totally broken underneath the clamp is still a mystery, but I think it may be A) they were simply clamped too tight, B) the green copper patina started eating away at the actual hair, C) there is something about the mechanical design of those locs that makes them too "sharp" in the hair, or D) the double-sided tool used to remove them hurts the real hair during removal. My best guess is that it's a combination of all these factors. Some say that Extentubes can cause some damage, too, but it seems like a safer method overall, and there's no copper, green residue, or double-sided removal tool. I believe extendtubes are aluminum, and I also think there somewhat thicker than the hairlocs shells, so maybe that gives the hair a little more protection (please someone else jump in here).

I also had GLs and Cinderella, and the damage with those methods was very different. I don't think there actually was much damage at all while I was wearing them; it was during removal that it happened. When the GLs/Cinderella strands were removed (with the GLs remover), the remover just didn't break down the bond enough so the stylist had to apply pressure to "pull" them out, basically. Even though the shells are supposed to "crack" open, and they did crack to a certain extent, it still wasn't enough to get them out. So after hours of pulling (and crying), I had very little hair left--and yes, much of that was pulled from the root. After several applications of GLs, I actually took them out myself the last time with lots of oil, pliers, and a drop of acetone with much more success. My hair was trashed at that point, but at least there wasn't much additional damage. I do think that some women's hair may be strong enough to endure the keratin glue and pulling of GLs. Mine, unfortunately, is not.

Amm has posted several threads on hairlocs damage, outlining why she thinks the damage occured. Metalgirl also said she's seen similar effects from Eurolocs when used long-term, so you may want to check those threads, too.
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First off I wanted to applaud miamigirl for being so brave to post those pics so that others will be educated to not make the same mistake. ANd I'm so sorry you had to go through with all this and learn the hard way.

Question for anybody who has experience with different extensions methods - what would cause one method to actually pull hair out at the roots (I've noticed a few people mentioned that hairlocs and fusion have done this) versus other methods? I can see why some might break off the hair versus others, but pulling out at the roots?
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