QuoteReplyTopic: Shrinkies still the favorite??? Posted: February 06 2005 at 6:40am
I also tipped my hair with latex. its simple really, brush it on the tips, set it aside and move to the next one. by the time your at about 20 tips or so, the first one has dried, then go back and roll it, square the tip, and I also layered the strand but its up to you, and move down the line till its all done.
some brands are a little bit thinner then others, but other then that theres not much of a diffrence at all, thats why I always got the cheap stuff.
Hi there guys I don't use anything else to tip hair now but latex I find it far easier and far less messy than LG. Even if you roll too quick and see that the tip has turned white, when you leave it overnight it always dries clear whether you've rolled it too quick or not, I usually tip 20 and then go back to roll them, I used proclaim and salon pro latex and I think it rocks, I leave them overnight to take their colour then I snip the very tips off to make them even and then put the nail glue over the whole tip. The only thing I would say is don't pile them together overnight because when you come to apply the nail glue the next day all the tips will have stuck together although you can pull them apart but its a pain xx
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Sounds like "shrink time" may vary then on a few things. Like what tool is being used to shrink, the size of the tips and the type of glue that we've tipped with. Maybe the key here is just finding the correct timing for each individual.
Jenny, the reason I suspect the sizzle may be related to the type of glue is that when I used the Doc Locks pretipped hair and shrinkies with the flat iron set to 25, I would count to about 10 and they'd start to sizzle. With the latex and nail glue tips and the same heat setting, I could count to 15 with no sizzle. They shrunk just fine, and I've had no slippage.
Of course, it's just a theory.
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You know Jenny, after sitting here thinking about it, pretipping with the keratin might not be such a bad idea, but to get the tips right Id think you might have to dip them and roll, then reheat them to squeeze out the extra glue and reroll them tight. But I think it would take alot less time since the glue sets up so fast. You wouldnt have to wait for the LG to harden and cure. Id still use the nail glue over the tips though. Im gonna try some to find out how it works out!
That's a good point, Sherrie. It'd probably be a pain to use Keratin then.
Leia, I've never "sizzled" with Shrinkies either, and I used Liquid Gold and the nail glue. I think I haven't been cooking them for long enough, though. :)
Yes I did...sort of. Well what I actually did was melted some of my keratin preglued "nailhair" tips with my flatiron. There is alot of glue on these tips but most of it squeezed out onto the iron and it left just the right amount on the hair to make a really nice tight small tip. The thing about tipping with Keratin from a gun or a hotpot is that it would be hard to get just a tiny amount of glue rolled into the strands quickly before the glue sets. Pretipping in stick form takes way less glue than what you would use for fusion, and the less hot glue the quicker its going to set up. And if you dont get it distibuted through the strands its gonna shed. But I think you could pretip with the keratin and then reheat them with the wand to squeeze out the excess glue and roll them tight. It probably wouldnt take any more time than pretipping with other types of glue & waiting for the glue to set and cure. I feel another experiment coming on!
I used latex glue on human hair. I put glue on a few before I went back and rolled them to give it a little time to set (so you end up with less glue on your fingers).
Jenny, I think maybe Doc's pretipped hair has keratin or some other fusion glue. I just know that when I started installing the hair I tipped, I didn't hear a sizzle anymore. I wondered if the glue used to tip the hair is what determines the sizzle.
Emma, it was on synthetic hair. You just have to really let the latex dry first, much moreso than with LG which sets up much quicker. Just my (recent) experience.
For those of you who used Latex glue to tip hair, was it on human or synth? I tried latex on synth and it didnt seem to take very well, of course I didnt let it dry totally before I tried to roll it and it just slid right off the hair.
SHE human hair blend, 18", #4 with Supertape.
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I used the Proclaim latex glue from Sally's (99 cents a bottle), let them sit for a day, then coated the tips with nail glue. I'm actually impressed with how well they turned out. It was simple, cheap, and non-toxic (or at least, the bottle didn't say anything).
You know, leia, I used it too when the LG I was using got too gummed up at around 1/2 bottle. I agree - the Proclaim tips turned out okay! It's kind of weird, tho - at one point in its set-up process, it separates into sort of water and white latex, so if you roll the tip at that point, the tip doesn't dry clear. I found it best to let the Proclaim practically dry, THEN roll, then dry, then coat with nail glue. But the tips turned out very nice, although not rock hard like LG tips.
Send me an email or a mail message through this board and we can hook up somehow. I'll send you some samples of the French Refined so you can take a look at its wave. You can send me some of your shrinkies as trade or something. What color is your own hair?
PS: I have 2 colors of French Refined from Glamour Hair .. a reddish brown (#12) and the 2 blonde blend (#18/22). It's what I'm wearing in my little photo on the left.
Yes, Jenny, I do think that has something to do with it. Plus, my own hair is very fine so it adds very little substance itself. Plus I think the hair is just so-so - kind of 'yaki' in texture although not labeled yaki. And it's silky straight - bone straight. A little wave would go a long way. I don't want to put too much more effort into this installation since I already don't like it. I did put a few microrings on the sides to fill in and help with the mullet effect. Right now I'm reading an old thread about AMM's gorgeous DIY 'do and am getting reinspired!
Do you think the piece-y, separate way the hair is laying has anything to do with the fact that you only have 80 in? I find that the fewer extensions I have (and this is with human hair), the more piece-y it looks. I think this is often the case with strand-by-strand extensions, as opposed to wefts.
I'm on day 2 with about 80 shrinkies. Only lost 2 strands so far. My only complaint has to do with the hair...it really looks unnatural. It's a synth I got at hairpiece - the one that cost $10 instead of $6. Its biggest problem is that it doesn't blend - the strands don't brush together to lay like real hair - the sort of separate into strands and it looks bad. That plus it's super straight and my hair has just a slight wave so the difference is obvious, at least to me. It was really long, but the next day I ended up cutting 6" off to nearly the length of my own hair, just so it wouldn't look so fake. I think the main problem is styling. The girl who did me took about 5 hours to put in the shrinkies alone, so there was no time to actually "style" it once it was in. The ends, when cut, are very unnatural looking. I think someone who knows how should do something to it with a razor - that's what either Prostyles or Dome's site recommends, I think. This was my first experiment with both synth and shrinkies, and although I hate the results, I am learning about what will eventually work. Shrinkies are good - they stay in well and are comfortable. I think they're not as invisible as microrings, however. The hair - well, just waiting for my Plastikhaar color ring to arrive. But yesterday I was so distraught, I was considering ordering some expensive cuticle to redo this mess right away...but today I'm better! lol
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I used the Proclaim latex glue from Sally's (99 cents a bottle), let them sit for a day, then coated the tips with nail glue. I'm actually impressed with how well they turned out. It was simple, cheap, and non-toxic (or at least, the bottle didn't say anything).
I think just about anything would be worth trying. I think the main key with this is patience. Do just a few and allow them to set up and cure until they're good and dry. And then test them to see how they do with a washing.
As far as Gorilla Glue goes, just when you think you've put on just the right amount, you've probably put on too much. Serious, the stuff expands while it dries and the end result is pretty hard. It can make a great small tip or a horrible one that's too large and hard to wear if too much is applied.
Sherrie, I really liked that Futura Fiber I got at Sallys, I wish they had it in something other than silky straight. All Sallys ever carries in anything is silky straight.
That might not be the exact hair I go with but its the type of curl I want. Hair Sisters is a huge site and has lots to choose from. Im going to see if I can find that curl in a kanekalon.
Hey Amm, Im wondering, with your success with Gorilla Glue if just about any glue would work? Is it the tipping with nail glue that makes it more durable? I was checking out the glue section at WalMart the other day and they have a craft glue that comes in a tube with a sponge applicator. I thought the sponge would be a great way to tip the hair. The glue was waterproof, thick and said it dries quickly and was non toxic.
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