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    Posted: February 19 2005 at 9:33am
I know. Right now I import from China by the container-load. However it seems that the really good synth hair is made in Japan (that's where PH's comes from) or Korea (another place of textile wonders.)

As I said in another post, the patent for heat resistant synth hair has expired. I need to find out what factor(ies) are currently manufacturing this, what their MOQ's are for ordering, etc., as well as what distribution agreements they have in place already. It seems like there's not much of one since we're having trouble finding the stuff in the US.

Anyway I'm rambling. . .thanks for the support. . .and I AM going to look into this!!
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I almost choked when I read that too--$3 to $4 a strand? For synth? I really wonder if anyone int he world is buying the stuff.

Anyway, Fina, I think you SHOULD start importing hair. It's amazing how much of a market there is for it, and how much that market is growing (especially for DIY). Just based on how many new members we get here every week, the possibilities are seem limitless. :)
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I knew it -- I figured that they'd be in the Great Lengths category of pricing/distribution etc.

What a racket. But the cool thing about a free market economy is that competition ALWAYS wins in the end, which means, in 6-12 months heat-resistant synth hair will be everywhere. The patent has just expired for whoever invented it, so I promise, we'll see a lot more of this.

Heck, maybe I"ll even start importing it !

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Yeah, it makes sense. I'm tired, too.... :)

I actually just got some Caruso rollers (from eBay) and am going to give those a whirl. Will report back! :)
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Yeah, heat turns plastic into a more malleable state. SO while heat straightened your hair, heat can also re-wave it.

If you just want to smooth your ends without losing your wave, you can hold onto the hair above the last six inches or so, set the blowdryer on a counter pointing towards you, and just smooth the ends of your hair while holding it above the ends (to keep the lengths loose and not pulled taut).

Ummmm, I hope that made sense. I'm tired.

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$3-$4 per strand???.....holy moly that would be more expensive than GREAT LENGTHS! um so and average head of say 200 strands would cost $600 to $800 ?? And thats wholesale purchase?

Mental note to self: cross Cyber Hair off the list of must try synthetic (there isnt any hair worth that much money in my book)
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I think the wholesale purchase price of Cyber Hair is about $3-4 per strand.

I'm not sure what kind of a fiber it is, but the company does sell low temp curling irons that you can use to curl it.

I am not going to apply for a distributorship, because I don't feel I could make their quota.
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Yikes! That's a lot of products to be expected to sell each month. What's the retail price for cyberhair anyway, and how does it differ from monofiber or thermofiber? :)
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I do have a sample of the Cyberhair, but they company has strict rules about who they let become a distributor. The Cyber hair does feel exactly like real hair.

To become a dealer, first there must not be anyone else in your territory, and then you can apply for an application where you have to submit pictures of your salon, all licenses you have, your business and marketing plan and budget , etc.

If they accept you, then you have to meet a quota of buying at least $750 of products per month to be able to keep your distributorship.
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That's funny--I was thinking of mixing thermo and mono hair together, too! I'll be curious to hear how it turns out. :)
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Eeek! Thanks for the info Jenny.

I spent most of the afternoon yesterday trying to find out more about heat-resistant synthetic hair.

It seems to me that right now the biggest problem is finding/gettting it in *colors*. As we've noted, "Wa Wa" and "Freestyle" etc all carry it but in limited colors.

"Cyberhair" has been mentioned on this board a while back, and it truly is technologically very interesting, but it looks like it's going to be one of those Great Lengths kind of companies where the stuff is basically impossible to get and/or prohibitively expensive.

I'm going to install the PH when I get it, mixed with the WaWa that I'm waiting on. I'm going to do the PH underneath amd the WaWa on the layers on top. I figure that as the layers underneath get piece-y or less curly that's OK with me.

My goods will not be here til TUESDAY -- that's the shrinkies and WaWa hair that I ordered last Saturday. The PH will be here by then too.

Good Luck and thanks again for the info!!

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This is probably fairly obvious to everyone (and should've been to me), but last night, my hair was looking a little piece-y, so I thought I'd smooth it out a bit with the blow-dryer. I figured the wave would loosen a bit, but when I ran the brush through with the heat, it went absolutely pin-straight. I guess I was thinking of it more like human hair, where you could blow it out a bit and still maintain some of the texture. Wrong.

On the plus side, the hair got quite smooth and didn't fry at all. Afterward I ran the lower portion of the hair under hot water and braided it, which gave it a bit of wave, but really, I think I need to set it in hot rollers.

Anyway, I should've left well enough alone--LOL. But I just wanted to alert anyone who might also make this mistake that you can't really "smooth" the hair with the dryer without also straightening it. Or at least, I couldn't manage to do it.

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