Banishing Bad Hair Days since 1997!™
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Hopeless hair
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

Hopeless hair

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Honeydoo View Drop Down
Member
Member
Avatar

Joined: December 12 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 651
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Honeydoo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Hopeless hair
    Posted: December 22 2004 at 8:06pm
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I wasn't sure how it was done. I might give it a try because my hair usually hits an inch below my shoulders and stops. I think it's because of rubbing against my clothes.
http://public.fotki.com/Honeydoo
pw: bombay
Back to Top
cmesweet View Drop Down
Elite Member
Elite Member
Avatar

Joined: March 31 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 2085
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cmesweet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2004 at 4:20pm
Some people place oils on their ends and then put put their hair into a ponytail and place the baggy over it. Then they place a hair piece or a scrunchy over it so the baggy can't be seen. I hear it works well with preventing split ends. Others use vaseline on their ends and then place the baggie.

There are variations to it, some people wear frenchrolls with the baggie...Carameldiva stated her version as well.
Natural
BC May 9, 2004

Back to Top
carameldiva View Drop Down
Member
Member
Avatar

Joined: March 28 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 856
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carameldiva Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2004 at 7:25am
i use the baggie method when i deep condition and also at nite after moisturizing my hair and ends. the idea is to use your body heat/sweat to aid in moisturizing and retaining moisture/preventing split ends and breakage. no i do not suffocate and it does not cause me to have an itchy scalp because i moisturize my scalp as well. Hope this helps. You can also use a baggie on your ponytail and place a phonypony on top.
Me and you, your cousin and your momma too rollin on da strip on bow's
Back to Top
Honeydoo View Drop Down
Member
Member
Avatar

Joined: December 12 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 651
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Honeydoo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2004 at 11:41pm
Leale, that's what I was wondering. I think my scalp would sweat
http://public.fotki.com/Honeydoo
pw: bombay
Back to Top
leale View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: November 15 2004
Location: Oklahoma
Status: Offline
Points: 31
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote leale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2004 at 11:00pm
Please correct me if Iam wrong but I think the baggie method is when you wear a plastic shower cap after you have conditioned and moisturized your hair at night.

If this is the baggie method does this not sufficate your hair or make your scalp itchy due to the lack of oxygen?
leale
Back to Top
Honeydoo View Drop Down
Member
Member
Avatar

Joined: December 12 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 651
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Honeydoo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2004 at 10:15pm
Originally posted by carameldiva carameldiva wrote:

daily condition washes really help me out a lot. In the beginning when my hair was much shorter, i would rinse with water and then apply parnevue's leave-in conditioner(the purple one) and go. Now i rinse with water and apply any aussie conditioner, rinse and go. I use tallow, cocoa butter, mango butter, avocado butter and sal butter as moisturizers. I do the baggie method at nite. I take my vitamins regularly, drink plenty of water and go. My hair is lovin it. also i found out that burt's bees avocado butter pre-shampoo treatment works great for me as well.


I read alot of posts about girls doing the baggie method. What is that, how do you do it, and what do you use to do it with?? Does it help retaim moisture and are you only suppose to use it one your ends???
http://public.fotki.com/Honeydoo
pw: bombay
Back to Top
carameldiva View Drop Down
Member
Member
Avatar

Joined: March 28 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 856
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carameldiva Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2004 at 8:02pm
daily condition washes really help me out a lot. In the beginning when my hair was much shorter, i would rinse with water and then apply parnevue's leave-in conditioner(the purple one) and go. Now i rinse with water and apply any aussie conditioner, rinse and go. I use tallow, cocoa butter, mango butter, avocado butter and sal butter as moisturizers. I do the baggie method at nite. I take my vitamins regularly, drink plenty of water and go. My hair is lovin it. also i found out that burt's bees avocado butter pre-shampoo treatment works great for me as well.
Me and you, your cousin and your momma too rollin on da strip on bow's
Back to Top
leale View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: November 15 2004
Location: Oklahoma
Status: Offline
Points: 31
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote leale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2004 at 11:25am
First off let me tell you that its not going to be this way forever. During my freshman year of college I wanted to look cute all the time. I went to a professional hairdresser every two weeks. I was so obsessed with looking good that I allowed the hairdresser to give me perms that were to harsh every 4 weeks and sometime touch ups on my edges in bettween the perms. You can guess what happend. On New Years eve I took down my hair and it started to break off in huge clumps. To the point that some places felt bald. For half a year I did not get any more perms and my mother would trim my hair. My hair continued to break off for about 8 months. It has been 2 years since this incident and what I have learned is that my hair was trying to correct the problem by letting the damage stuff come off until there was healthy hair to start over with. So please be patient.
leale
Back to Top
SouthernFried View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: November 30 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 21
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SouthernFried Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2004 at 3:43am
Thanks so much Nymphe and Honeydoo for taking the time to respond to my post. I think the most important thing I do need is PATIENCE. I will try your suggestions and keep you posted.


God Bless
Back to Top
Honeydoo View Drop Down
Member
Member
Avatar

Joined: December 12 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 651
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Honeydoo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2004 at 11:10pm
Oh, and I forgot, stress plays a HUGE part int e growth cycle. I know that it did for me. I was in a very stressful part of my life and it showed. Layla made a good point about seeing a dermatologist. Good luck, hon!!
http://public.fotki.com/Honeydoo
pw: bombay
Back to Top
Honeydoo View Drop Down
Member
Member
Avatar

Joined: December 12 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 651
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Honeydoo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2004 at 11:08pm
I know how it feels to have hopeless hair because I was once ther myself. Now, I didn't try to grow my hair out natural (I have 4a/b also), but there was a time a few years ago when I didn't get a relaxer for about 9 months. Needless to say, my hair suffered tremendously!! It was alittle past my shoulders, but my hair became so brittle, hard, and tearfully unmanageable that I almost passed out! I cried and I hated to go out because I couldn't do anything with it. When I washed it, I could hardly pull a comb through it. My was alittle passed my shoulders but had broken off raggedly so that I had a HUGE chunk missing on one side and thinness in another. It was BAD.

I didn't have the money to go to the salon so I began doing research and caring for my hair on my own. Now, what worked for me may not work for you, but I recommend you give it a shot. I first switched my regimen. I switched from Suave to Creme of Nature detangling shampoo which gives your hair alot of slip. For conditioning, I used Organics Mayo Conditioner which is good for protein and moisture. My other staple products were Carrot Creme and Carrot oil, which I used both daily. (Carrot oil is also good to massage the scalp because it is a light oil but its also very healing.) I got on a good multivitamin also, not just a hair vitamin. I increased my water and gradually stopped eating red meats and alot of fried foods. I began to see a REALLY big difference. However when I had the money, I went to the salon and had the damaged sections cut so I could really start anew. I cried as she chopped---my hair had to be cut in a bob, 1 inch long in the back, about 3 everywhere else. I was devastated, but I kepted up my regimen afterwards adding a few products here and there like Nexxus Humectress Conditioner, Mane and Tail Conditoner, and I stopped brushing my hair (except for styling purposes.)

I've kept that up and now my hair has grown past my shoulders. It's thicker, healthier, and it is more moisturized. Believe me, it can be a painful process, but stay on this site and listen to some of the advice, you'll have healthy flowing hair in no time!!
http://public.fotki.com/Honeydoo
pw: bombay
Back to Top
Nymphe View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: December 08 2004
Location: Near the Nati
Status: Offline
Points: 24
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nymphe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2004 at 10:05am
You may be suffering from "scab hair"--hair still affected by the chemical residue under your scalp. It can be forever dry, brittle and break easily no matter what you do. Some people never get this while others suffer through it over a year or two. The only way to deal with it is to let it grow out, keep caring for it gently and keep up on trimming. Be careful about using too many products at once or overusing ones with protein. Have you tried shea butter yet? Have you tried no-poo method yet? Here are a couple pf links to check out:
http://motowngirl.com/no_shampoo.htm

http://www.nappturality.com/

You also may want to see a dermatologist or trichologist to rule out any other problems, like stress or exsessive sweat.
Back to Top
SouthernFried View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: November 30 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 21
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SouthernFried Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2004 at 4:01am
Hi ladies. Let me first just mention how grateful and appreciative I am that all of you ladies take the time to dispense your hair advice and experiences on this message board. I have been reading many of them for months now (since I have been transitioning from relaxer to natural) and have really felt relief to know I am not alone in my struggles in trying to achieve a healthy head of hair. But I have to say that at this point in the process (6 months since the last relaxer), I am losing hope. I want to give a synopsis of my hair downfall, so I'll try to be brief. After about a month or so since the transition, my hair started to break badly (especially the edges). My hair was so damaged, my hairdresser had to cut it really short. Now I have to not only contend with trying to manage short hair, but also to try and hide my thinning edges. I have to say it is very depressing to say the least. I hate going in public. But I still have to work, so I can't become a complete hermit. I have tried WGO, ORS temple balm, scalp massage, weekly washings and conditionings, hair vitamins, protein drinks, carrot juice, etc. Even after all of this effort, I am seeing very little growth. I'm trying so hard to be positive and patient, but everytime I look in the mirror, I can't help but tear up looking at this mess on my head. I have 4a/4b type hair. If anyone out there could give me some specific advice, I would be so grateful.

Thanks for your support
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down