GAH! PH ring is here! PH ring is here!

are feathering scissors and thinning shears the same thing? I do have some thinning shears. used to have a razor too but i have no idea what happened to it.that may be a problem since the ends are mostly blunt cut. i did put in a few long layers but that doesnt do much to break up the ends.

I love the dome care mist and the downy lavender-vanilla fabric softener, both work pretty well with this hair. I also have some of the dome smooth conditioner and a dome brush coming in the mail, hopefully those will help.

~Jenn~

Hmm...maybe Rae, Fina, Mer, and/or Kalika can weigh in on the PH, and AMM, Octavia, and others on the WaWa. I've had the most luck with the technique I've outlined above, but maybe they have some tips that would help.

I will say that I don't think the PH responds well to being cut straight across with a standard scissor; you need to cut into it, trim with a feather scissor, or cut with a razor. Also, the brush you're using could be causing snags.

Anyway, good luck; hopefully, some others will chime in.

:)

Hey Jenn,

I encourage you not to throw in the towel so soon. I had the same thoughts about the PH initially, but the hair is very "revivable," really. I don't think the fact that it's 28mm has anything to do with the stiffness of it; it's all the same hair, really, it's just been treated a bit differently at the manufacturing plant to give it that initial texture.

If you've blown it out straight, I assume all the initial curl is gone, correct? If so, you're basically dealing with straight PH anyway, not wavy PH.

Instead of taking all the hair out, I would recommend cutting an inch or so off the ends (remember to razor or "cut into the hair" with the scissors). Do this after you've washed the hair, left in a bit of fabric softener, and blown it out, following Doc's technique and using a brush that grips the hair well. At that point, add a little Biosilk and/or Dome Care, and wrap the hair up in Jumbo hot rollers. Leave 'em in till they're cool, remove, and finger-comb the hair. (Do this with both the WAWA and the PH). Wear it this way for a few days (don't wash), sleeping with it in a bun or braid and only occasionally detangling with a silicone product, wig spray, or Dome Care. When you're ready to wash, do so--the colder the water, the better--using only fabric softener on the length. Let the hair air-dry. When dry, spray with silicone or Dome Care again; if it's still a little frizzy leave it in a bun or braid for a half hour. If you need more curl, use the rollers again.

Hope this helps. :)

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Oops. I mean 50mm! I got 28 on the brain.

Thanks Rae! I'm pretty jazzed about getting the 28mm on a custom
weft. I'm going over the colors and trying to decide.

How do I get to PH's area where they sell haar care products? I can
find the home page and wholesale area just fine but seem blind to all
else.

amm wrote: Syren, the swatch says Dome wave. Really? If I wash it, it'll change?

It sure did on me. By second wash, I was one of those 1960s Barbie dolls with the dark frizzy afro..kinda like your old avatar, only past my shoulders. Not a good look. It caused stares and not good ones. Even blow drying didn't soften it.

I so pray 50mm lasts at least a couple of washes. And we so need to place an order ASAP cuz I'm back to being bald and am really depressed about it.

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Definitely not steam--go for the velvet flocked rollers; they work much better than the Carusos, imo. If you just want to create those big, jumbo waves, go for the 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 inch size. But for more flexibility, it's best to get one of those mixed sets with the various sizes. Personally, I like when they have the more substantials clips, rather than the pins, but whatever. Some of the newer ones heat up in only a few minutes. If you do a basic eBay seach, you'll find most of the major ones on the market.

The Velcro ones also seem to work well for Fina, with a drying hood or bonnet; I still haven't tried them myself.

I like the Brandywine wig spray; it's cheap and it kills frizziness on contact. But I have to revise my initial post about this: I do think the Dome Care works better as a detangler and general care product. Sara offers it on her site now, so you can get it there (rather than paying the outrageous Dome shipping.)

:)

I'm under the impression that it's all silky at first, then as you wear it/wash it, it gets rougher, until you steam or blow-dry it and then it's almost as silky as it was in the beginning.

Yeah, Rae's the only one I know with the straight. :)

Syren123 wrote: Always planning the next install. HELP!!!

My first order to PH was for enough hair to get me through one year planned out in theory...