Oh, and about the salon/freelance thing- I wouldn't say it's safe to
assume that if someone is freelance they're making more. F'r instance,
I pay $50, at most, for a full day of using my spot at the salon. If
I'm doing house calls, then I don't have that expense, but I have other
expenses, like gas and car maintenance and travel time (which, when
everyone lives out in the suburbs, can take an hour each way). If a
stylist works out of their home, then they also have to set aside space
in their house (and possibly pay extra rent to have room for a home
salon). So it's hard to say for sure the situation that your particular
stylist works in, and how much of their fee they get to keep. I would
just say to tip based on your satisfaction with the service, rather
than where they work.
Yeah, I find that the percentage of my tips end up being inversely
proportional to the cost of the service. I've gotten tipped 50% before,
but that was on a $40 job. I've gotten tipped $10 on a $200 job, which
ain't much, but hey, $200 is a lot of money for most people.
And good point, Jenny, about keeping the hair cost and service cost
separate. Stylists don't expect to be tipped on the cost f hair anyway
(*cough* unless they're a GL stylist and mark up their hair- bleh).
I do work in a salon, and my average price for an extension install is around $400. Most clients tip between $20-$80. Some don't tip at all. I'm not too offended if they don't tip because I know that for many people (including myself) that spending $400 on your hair it a lot of money!
I think a $50 tip is very generous. Tips are supposed to be a gratuity. (I know as I work in a job that I depend on tips also, to earn my living, we come to 'expect' them) But I will say that standard 15-20% is really based on a more standard service of say up to $100 or so. I dont think once you get up there in the hundreds of dollars for services that its expected or the standard to tip 15-20%. I may be wrong....just my 2 cents!
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Also, I don't think you should tip on the cost of hair--it makes no sense to me. So you're actually paying $400 for the service--not $750. So, $60 would be a 15% tip; $80 would be 20%.
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Ya know... I can't believe I didn't think of this!! Thank you Jenny!!
Honestly, I think a $150 tip is MORE THAN generous. I tip $50 on a $350
service, and I think that's more than enough, personally.
I actually would encourage you NOT to tip more than $100 on your first
extensions job because A) if you love them, you'll be going back
frequently, and paying an extra $150 each time could add up to be a
lot; and (more importantly) B) 95% of extensions look great when you
leave the salon--it's how they hold up over the course of months that
really matters--and you'll only be able to determine how good the job
actually is after you've worn them for awhile and learned more about
extensions.
If this extensionist turns out to be great, you can spread the word and
post pics and tip her more later on if you want to. Also, I don't think
you should tip on the cost of hair--it makes no sense to me. So you're
actually paying $400 for the service--not $750. So, $60 would be a 15%
tip; $80 would be 20%.
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Scotchyroo, I remember 10,000 yrs ago my grandmother giving me hair stylist tipping etiquette and she said the same thing: that you don't tip the owner of the salon. I think that's an antique notion cuz nowadays I know plenty of salon owners who accept tips. I'm still having trouble with the home service, tho. I mean, why work in a salon at all if you're going to charge the same at home? Salon stylists should get a tip always, and home stylists....well, sometimes. If you make house calls, always.
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If you knew what a difference in time an install for a thin haired vs. a thin haired girl you'd see the reason. A babyhaired blond can be done by a novice in 3 hours, whereas a girl with really thick hair could take twice as much time. Why should the girl with baby-fine hair subsidize the girl with thick hair. All installs are not equal.
So at time of consultation, where she actually saw my hair, she knew that it would take her 4 hours tops just by looking at my hair?
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If you knew what a difference in time an install for a thin haired vs. a thin haired girl you'd see the reason. A babyhaired blond can be done by a novice in 3 hours, whereas a girl with really thick hair could take twice as much time. Why should the girl with baby-fine hair subsidize the girl with thick hair. All installs are not equal.
That said, I don't accept tips for at home work, and as a booth renter, don't accept tips at work as I own the business. Some people insist, but most like it, as they actually know how much they're going to spend before arriving.
I guess I kind of think $100 hr. for any hair service is BS, but I do live in the mid-west where cost of living is much cheaper.
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lol, then why doesnt she just charge $400 for the install then? I just always get iffy about per hour things.
Oh -- hmmm... I dunno. She did tell me that she usually takes no more than 3, but likes to tell people 4 just in case... but she specifically said NEVER more.
Yikes... I'm nervous... what if my head is a disaster to do, and I end up being her first 6 hour intall with cigarette breaks inbetween?? LOL
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Yeppers!! I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO excited you don't even know... I've been waiting for the day to come for awhile now!! I really like the girl whose doing my hair too!
Actually... Is it normal to be this excited?? I mean I have trouble getting a good nights sleep.... all I do is dream about hair!!! And then I end up waking myself up from being so anxious, I guess... it's really bizarre you guys!! LOL
I am just soooo happy!! I also tend to have high expectations (just being honest lol) and I hope I'm not dissapointed and it turns out what I'm hoping it will... but I'm trying to think only happy thoughts!!
I am getting it done Sunday... and I'll def. post pics Sunday pm or Monday am. I know how much we all love pictures!!!
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[/QUOTE] For 3/4 of a head of pinchbraids for which I am supplying the hair, she is charging me $375. With hair, it's $420. [/QUOTE]
Thanks! Sounds like we are being charged almost the same for install.
My lady is charging me $100 an hour (but she claims it won't be any longer than 4 hours... so basically $400 for install). She is supplying the hair... and is charging me $350 for it. It's supposedly H&H cuticle hair. So at the worst it will be $750, and I plan on trying to tip $150 if all goes well. She is HP trained & certified, and works in a salon.
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it just depends, tip her on how good she makes the expireance.
I occationally do some girls hair from the club, they come over, and I get them all comfortable (because it takes me HOURS lol, I never said I was a professional) - and I let them watch whatever they want on TV/DVD - or music, I let them munch out the fridge and let them drink whatever they want (well non alcoholic lol, I dont drink) or let them play on the laptop.
But like I said I dont do it often, Ive done maybe 10 in the last year
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