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    Posted: July 24 2005 at 11:11am
I think I "know" Rod well enough to know that he is definitely a fan of short hair... (and he is not Bob).  Several are taking Rod to task for suggesting that most people might like long hair better.  Why is it inconceivable for a person to be an admirer, supporter, wearer (etc) of a certain hair length or style, while simultaneously believing that their preference is not shared by the majority of people?  Brent's criticism of Rod is ironic, as he says, "even if it were true..."



Enough.  It seems that this whole discussion continues to generate ill will expressed in various ways to various people.  Therefore I am closing the thread.

Peace out.
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EatGreenJello, I understand completely what you are saying lovely lady.

Rod, I am a man in my 40s. I have been all over the U.S., Canada, and Europe. I have never in my life ever heard any grown man over the age of 20, say privately or publically, that a woman with short hair looked like a boy or was ugly because of her short hair. Only immature teenaged boys or people with incredibly juvenile personalities would say something so stupid.

Rod, I have been reading and writing on this website for two years now. This is about the tenth time you have said that most men prefer long hair on women. First of all, that isn't true. Some men like short hair on women, some like medium length bob cuts, others like long hair on women, men have their individual preferences.

Even if it were true, obviously it is very condescending to say that, and totally inappropriate for the short hair board.

Please, if you would, refrain from this sort of condescending attitude on this board. There are many lovely women here who wear their hair short that really don't need that sort of negative attitude towards their hairstyles. Have a little sensitivity and common sense about the people that frequent this short hair board.

Thanks Dave for the compliment on what I wrote. You are doing an excellent job monitoring all of this bull.
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Points: 690 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 12:44am
Originally posted by eatgreenjello eatgreenjello wrote:

Originally posted by Rod Rod wrote:

Maybe everyone they know is
telling them not to cut it. Maybe they don't know any males that like short
hair. They want to hear they won't look like a boy and won't be ugly.
Chances are people here will tell them to cut it even if it isn't their long
hair is beautiful and even if most people might think it looks better long.
They want to hear why it's a good idea. And there should be a place
where they get just that.


Rod, are you really Bob?  I can't believe you just posted that here on the
short hair board after all the trouble Bob got into for his nasty opinions
on short hair ON THE SHORT HAIR BOARD.


Dave, can you just end this post?  These guys are ridiculous, and they
just don't get it.  "They want to hear they won't look like a boy and won't
be ugly", quoted by Rod.  Give me a break, stick to the long hair boards. 
There's no more room for you here on the SHORT HAIR BOARD.  =
eatgreenjello is pissed, and that takes a lot!



I'm certainly not trying to create conflict here, and I don't post on the long
hair boards. Perhaps I'm blunt, but this, and worse, is what girls who post
on short hair boards do hear outside of this board. That's reality. It's
always a good idea to understand that when replying to a post.
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Originally posted by eatgreenjello eatgreenjello wrote:

Originally posted by Rod Rod wrote:

Maybe everyone they know is telling them not to cut
it. Maybe they don't know any males that like short hair. They want to hear
they won't look like a boy and won't be ugly. Chances are people here will
tell them to cut it even if it isn't their long hair is beautiful and even if most
people might think it looks better long. They want to hear why it's a good
idea. And there should be a place where they get just that.

Rod, are you really Bob?  I can't believe you just posted that here on the short hair board after all the trouble Bob got into for his nasty opinions on short hair ON THE SHORT HAIR BOARD.

Dave, can you just end this post?  These guys are ridiculous, and they just don't get it.  "They want to hear they won't look like a boy and won't be ugly", quoted by Rod.  Give me a break, stick to the long hair boards.  There's no more room for you here on the SHORT HAIR BOARD.  = eatgreenjello is pissed, and that takes a lot!

 

Take it easy eatgreenjello just count to 10 and you will be ok plus I wouldn't blame you for getting mad  at Bob and Rod

 

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Points: 243 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2005 at 9:39pm

Originally posted by Rod Rod wrote:

Maybe everyone they know is telling them not to cut
it. Maybe they don't know any males that like short hair. They want to hear
they won't look like a boy and won't be ugly. Chances are people here will
tell them to cut it even if it isn't their long hair is beautiful and even if most
people might think it looks better long. They want to hear why it's a good
idea. And there should be a place where they get just that.

Rod, are you really Bob?  I can't believe you just posted that here on the short hair board after all the trouble Bob got into for his nasty opinions on short hair ON THE SHORT HAIR BOARD.

Dave, can you just end this post?  These guys are ridiculous, and they just don't get it.  "They want to hear they won't look like a boy and won't be ugly", quoted by Rod.  Give me a break, stick to the long hair boards.  There's no more room for you here on the SHORT HAIR BOARD.  = eatgreenjello is pissed, and that takes a lot!

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Points: 690 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2005 at 6:26pm
If someone goes to the long hair board and asks whether they should go
short, they're more interested in hearing why they shouldn't. That's
what they'll get there. If they go to the General, Teen, Asian or any other
more general board they are interested in a wide range of opinions. On a
short hair board, they want to hear should.

They may be nervous. Maybe everyone they know is telling them not to cut
it. Maybe they don't know any males that like short hair. They want to hear
they won't look like a boy and won't be ugly. Chances are people here will
tell them to cut it even if it isn't their long hair is beautiful and even if most
people might think it looks better long. They want to hear why it's a good
idea. And there should be a place where they get just that.
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Points: 3247 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2005 at 3:54pm
Bob,

Thank you for recognizing that the Hairboutique has specific boards for specific purposes, and agreeing to participate within that framework.
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Points: 1655 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2005 at 2:59pm

No Dave, I do understand. The point was clear enough that I did not reply to it specifically. The only time I ever tell anyone here that I think they would look better staying "long" is if they specifically ask for opinions. I will no longer do that here.

BTW, I do frequent the "long" board, Brent, of course! For whatever reason, though, I am not troubled in the least when, if asked, someone thinks a long-haired gal should go short on the "long" board. I am a believer in a free forum of ideas on any board, but I'm not running this site. I am thankful for those who do, and I respect them. Happiness to all, Bob
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Points: 3247 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2005 at 6:34pm
Thank you Brent, for stating your point so well.

Originally posted by Bob S Bob S wrote:

Sheesh, Dave, it must be hard to believe that I actually LIKE certain short hairdos, including pixies, wedges and bobs on many women. I loved pretty short hairstyles before I had ever seen truly beautiful *long* hair, and this wasn't until Jr. High. On occasion I even personally compliment a woman who is meticulous about making her short hair look pretty.  I only visit the Short board if I see an intrigueing headine. I enjoy philosophical discussions about hair and everything else. My qualifiers about loving length are to prevent anyone from thinking I am trying to post stealthily. In the future, I will refrain from any discussion of length on this board. It clearly makes many here uncomfortable. Cordially, Bob


You still don't get it, Bob.  I was afraid of that.

The concern isn't about whether or not you happen to like certain short hairstyles.  It's what you say about long hair here that isn't acceptable.

I don't doubt your honesty.  And I believe that you are speaking from your heart.  But what I hear you saying is that you can't be bothered with considering your audience before you blurt out whatever is on your mind.  And that attitude just won't fly here.

I am going to ask you to refrain from posting any thoughts or feelings regarding long hair within the short hair forum, unless and until you understand what I'm telling you, and you realize that many of the things you have posted here are unacceptable.
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I once, a couple of years back, went on the Long Hair Forum, expressed my preference for women in short hair, and tried to talk a young lady into getting her long hair cut short.

Dave Decker set me straight and asked me to not post such posts on the Long Haired board again, so I haven't.

That is the lesson Bob needs to learn. That this board is for encouraging or discussing or appreciating various short hairstyles, much as the Long Hair board is for encouraging, discussing or appreciating long hairstyles.

There is such a thing as "board appropriate" comments. There is no reason to destroy the atmosphere and purpose of the board by indicating you don't prefer the hairstyles of what the board is about.

Perhaps Bob would enjoy the long hair forum considering his preferences in women's hairstyles.



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If you refrain from talking about length bob, there won't be much else to talk about.
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Sheesh, Dave, it must be hard to believe that I actually LIKE certain short hairdos, including pixies, wedges and bobs on many women. I loved pretty short hairstyles before I had ever seen truly beautiful *long* hair, and this wasn't until Jr. High. On occasion I even personally compliment a woman who is meticulous about making her short hair look pretty.

 I only visit the Short board if I see an intrigueing headine. I enjoy philosophical discussions about hair and everything else. My qualifiers about loving length are to prevent anyone from thinking I am trying to post stealthily. In the future, I will refrain from any discussion of length on this board. It clearly makes many here uncomfortable. Cordially, Bob

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Points: 3247 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2005 at 7:03pm
Originally posted by Bob S Bob S wrote:

I really don't know why my honest comments would upset anyone. My wife has been bombarded with negative, rude remarks about her LONG hair on occasion. I prefer to think it's simply jealousy, embarrassment (from our girls- i.e., having a mom with extraordinarily long hair) or stodginess (her mom and other older relatives). It comes with the territory of venturing outside the norm. My advice remains: This is reality, so develop a thick skin and forget about it.

P.S. There are new folks here all the time. That is the only reason I am repetitive about my prediliction. Sorry! Also, in this case, to let people know that even some long hair fanatics are not hostile toward the "other side". Thanks, Bob



Bob,

Not sure how much I can add to what eatgreenjello, ssjockey, Rod, makeitshort, Lorryann, fatmoogas, and Hawg have said to you regarding your comments (thank you all).  But I'll give it a try, even though you seem to be unrepentant and entirely unwilling to learn from such incidents.  Your "Sorry!" rings hollow.

Ask yourself this question -- why is the moderator -- who is himself an unabashed fan of long hair -- giving you grief for waxing poetic about long hair?  BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING SO IN THE INAPPROPRIATE FORUM. (Yes, I feel I need to scream).  If you desire to post in this forum, you MUST be respectful to its purpose.

If you are concerned about your wife, then please do not even suggest that she visit this forum.  Alright?  And it is okay if you are aware of the existence of this forum, and you decide not to tell her about it.  We promise we won't tell her about it.
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Points: 690 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2005 at 9:14pm
Originally posted by fatmoogas fatmoogas wrote:

Don't think Bob really meant any harm. He is a
courteous and thoughtful poster. Probably he made a mistake in stating
his unequivocal and partisan preference for long hair on this, the short
hair, board.


Bob regularly posts on the short hair board. The most genuine thing he
did was state his preference for long hair. The problem is that he posts
continually emphasizing that preference, especially when someone with
long hair wants to get opinions about short hair.
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AS for BOB = I like to visit the long hair discussion forum, even though I have short hair.  BUT, if I do post a reply on the long hair board, I carefully think about what I say before I post, to make sure I don't hurt the feelings of the long hair beauties.  And I especially wouldn't get on the long hair board and state my preference for short hair.  It wouldn't be appropriate on the long hair board.  That's why Admin set up these forums to be separated into groups for long hair, short hair, african american hair, dyed hair, and so on.

My thinking is a very different from yours.  I admire people with all lengths of hair because it is their individual style and says something about them.  Even though I like short hair on ME, I appreciate all hair lengths and styles and colors that other people choose to have.  That's the beauty of hair, it's all so different.

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I'm going to second fatmoogas' opinion regarding Bob.

Can't wait to see pictures Lorryann.  Wish I could go with you to the barbershop.  Love seeing a woman in a barbershop.
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You are right. Thanks for your insight.

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Don't think Bob really meant any harm. He is a courteous and thoughtful poster. Probably he made a mistake in stating his unequivocal and partisan preference for long hair on this, the short hair, board.
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Hi Everyone,

I didn't expect my post to start a "thing" going, but here is my two-cents worth.

Bob, I respect your right to your preferences and opinions.  The world would be mighty dull if we all liked the same things, and had the same tastes in everything.

But I have a question--if you are a "long hair lover" then why are you reading and posting on a message board for "short" hair?  I realize you have every right to be here, but I don't understand your interest, or your desire to comment.

And yes, I agree that your post had a "you asked for it" undertone.  The people I encountered at the club most definitely were clueless, and, most unfortunately, drawing conclusions about my lifestyle based on my haircut.  One came right out and said I looked ugly. Very, very sad.  Are these the type of comments you are referring to--the ones allegedly being made "behind my back?"  Why would you suggest such a thing?

And as for the existence of those who "loathe" short hair on women--no kidding!!!  My partner was one of them, until he watched as I went short. I find that most people are able to keep an open mind,  "Different Strokes for Different Folks."

I shared this thread with my partner, he thought it was a hoot.  But his ultimate question was the same as mine--what is a long-hair afficionado doing on a short hair message board?  While I firmly believe thet we are are all entitled to our opinions, why express such a dissenting opinion here?

No offense intended ot taken--just a question.  I'm new to the world of really short hair.

BTW, I'll be going to a barbershop this weekend for a short buzz--can't wait!  I'll post some pix if I can get my computer working. I figured I may as well go all the way while I still have the nerve, and before I am forced to grow it out a bit for the winter.  It's too cold in New England to be buzzed all winter.

Best to All,

Lorryann

 

 

 
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All this begs the question Bob, as you obviously prefer long hair, why do you post here?  Do you want every woman to grow their hair long?
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