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    Posted: December 09 2005 at 11:08am

I think different methods work differently on different clients!

The key is to find the method that works for that particular client.

Perhaps some get really bad matting problems because the extensionist did not do clean sections when putting the extensions in?

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I dont believe in method wars Rae and I would never be involved in one. I think that all methods have their drawbacks. I have had clients come to me with pinchbraids who were totally unhappy with them I always send them back to their stylist to have them removed, then I switched them to GL and they were happy. Since I wear GL all the time I know that proper maintenance and not leaving them in too long will greatly reduce the matting and damage to the hair.

 

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Not to start a method war- I'll just say this: I've had many clients come to me, who had lots of damage and shedding and were generally dissatisfied with GLs, who did not have the same problems with the non-glue-based methods that I use. Maybe it's true that they improperly cared for their GL extensions- I have no way of knowing- but if that's the case, then for some reason they didn't have the same problems maintaining their pinchbraid or weft extensions.

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That sucks if it's really true that Hair dreams is the same as GL! Coz it cost alot more money & i already booked the appointment. Guess I'll just give it a try...   wish me luck ....

NOW, regarding maintenance... all i did when i had GLs was to brush till i couldn't brush anymore. It was SO painful!!! I have another gf that had the same problems wt GL. Maybe it was just bad luck!!! I take very good care of my hair coz extensions cost alot of money... hhmmm, GL is still a mystery to me...

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Originally posted by concubine concubine wrote:

OK, I think Great Lengths is the worst! It gets my hair knotted up especially near the mane. It looks like a "birds nest" after only 3mths.

I have yet to have one single client complain about Great Lengths. 3 month is the max you should ever try to wear them before removal. Matting is caused by the client not taking proper care of the extensions. Daily brushing with some type of looper brush is required to prevent matting. I myself have been wearing them for years with non of the problems you described.

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The only experience I've had with GL tangling and matting is improper maintenance.  This is true with all extensions...no matter what the method is.

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Hair Dreams is just another type of fusion, just like Great Lengths.  I don't know if the HD has good hair or not though.  No matter what method, you will always come across some good and bad batches of hair.
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I've had hair extensions for 2 years now. Great Lengths was the first system I tried. Started off with very healthy hair. Also tried glue system & now I'm using loc-ins. (some kinda round metal clip).

OK, I think Great Lengths is the worst! It gets my hair knotted up especially near the mane. It looks like a "birds nest" after only 3mths. Even only after 3 days of putting it in, my hair got tangled very badly on the ends... takes me an hour every morning to un-tangle my hair!!! Very painful for me coz i have an extremely sensitive head. Also, I lost ALOT of hair during removal... don't know why my experience was so bad...

Anyways, I'm thinking of trying Hair Dreams.. coz i was told that i can curl it & it doesn't tangle at all! Very expensive but i'm willing to find the best out there! Any feedbacks???

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I currently switch back and forth between bonded wefts and clip ins.

Amms oil:shrinkies.net(wonderful site with even better products).

Everclear:liquor store,lol.

Good luck with boogiemama.I have seen pictures of her work and its awsome.

P.s. 400 strands were shrinkies.I had to get out liquid gold(cause I didnt coat the tips,duh me) And the shrinkie glue.Like I said I have never worn great lengths so I dont want to steer you wrong

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where do you buy this Amms oil? or the everclear? I would like to start removing my GL extensions, before I get to see Boogiemama,,
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400 strands???  How do you fit 400 on your head?!?

Well you said its not great length so maybe other methods are a little different.  My stylist used 140 strands on me and today another GL stylist checked my extensions and told me I have no place to put more in.

So what do you wear now?

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I have had like 400 strands at one time,lol.Amms orange oil is ideal for removing those bonds.It took like three days to remove all the glue.I havent worn great lengths so maybe someone who has removed their own can add some helpful tips.The big key to any removal is patience.Thats where most damage happens.People get in a hurry and start pulling at the bonds.Thats why I dont wear strand by strand anymore.I get to the point where i cant stand them and want them out no matter what,lol.

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Originally posted by Longhairdreams Longhairdreams wrote:

Alcohol.Not the rubbing kind either,lol. Alot of people including myself have used oils and conditioners on the glue bonds to break it down.It can be time consuming.But for me personally it works quite well.I have never used acetone or alcohol on my hair.Oil has always been plenty.

Thanks for the info, so.... any oil?  I do have olive and canola oil, will they work?  And when you said time consuming, how long did it take you per strand, and the whole head?  I have a full head of GL and there is this one strand I have in the front I can always see the connecting bond, want to remove it myself.  When the 3 months come, I might do the whole head too....

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Alcohol.Not the rubbing kind either,lol. Alot of people including myself have used oils and conditioners on the glue bonds to break it down.It can be time consuming.But for me personally it works quite well.I have never used acetone or alcohol on my hair.Oil has always been plenty.

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I am also interested in the barcadi and everclear method for removing GL.  Can someone elaborate on that?  What is everclear anyways?
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Gsmilie, you left them in twice as long as you should have. I cant believe your stylist told you that they would last that long. I can only imagine how bad the tangles must have been. This is another case that proves my point. It is not the method that should have a bad rep, but the stylist installing them.
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I had them in for almost the full 6 months.  I never went to maintance appt.  She never encouraged me.  She told me if I had any "dreads" to just grab hold of the bonds and "RIP" them apart!!!  Like I said, I ended up with really damaged hair after they were taken out.  I always wanted to get extensions again, but was afraid of what it did to my hair.  Then I found this board, and now I am wearing shrinkies, and I DIY'd them!!!  I am ready to take them out and reinstall, I can already tell they have not damaged my hair the way GL did, or should I say the way the stylist did!!
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Gsmilie, how long had you had the hair in? bad stylist is and understatement!!! I tell mt clients, especially the ones with very thin hair that they have to change it every 12 weeks and follow the home maintenance very carefully

Cybermane, have a safe trip and I am very excited about your e-mail, cant wait to get it. I will help your friend as much as possible

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Originally posted by gsmilie gsmilie wrote:

I'm interested in the Bacardi or Everclear removal, do you acutally put it onto the hair and it removes the bonds or do you have the client drink so much of it they don't care what their hair looks like?? 
  

 U R so funnnnny

Originally posted by gsmilie gsmilie wrote:

I had GL about a year ago, and my stylist used the GL remover (not sure what it was) she worked on my head for about an hour, then handed me the pliers and the gunk, and cut other clients hair while I tried to get the rest out.  Then she put a bunch of conditioner in my hair and sent me home with a rat tail comb and told me to comb all the "knots" out,

WTF???  Bad stylist!   You should report her.  GL will suspend her account. 

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Originally posted by BirdOfEden BirdOfEden wrote:

I currently use the X-10 keratin glue, but I'm looking for something that holds longer.  Obviously because I am not a licensed cosmetologist, I can't be certified in GL or any of the other big names, but do either of you know of a really good keratin glue?

Hello Bird!  Yes, I remember you well!

GL uses polymer glue.  I don't know any other alternatives for over-the-counter sale.  Mega may sell their glue OTC, check with them.  But ya know Bird, I read something about your salon wanting you to teach them your fusion- perhaps you can tell them to BUY the professional brand for YOU!!!- GET IT???

Best of luck!!! Charlene

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