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    Posted: September 03 2005 at 12:36pm
I would not bleach it. Your hair is probably pretty poruos from all the depositing. I suggest you make an appointment with a color technician in your area
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DO NOT BLEACH it again. that's my advice. unless you are prepared to deal with the added damage, just dye it back dark (to make sure the color is even)...and get it done professionaly.
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Hi, I have a question, that I probably should have asked before I bleached! Anyway, I bleached my hair using Clariol fearless bleaching kit.  My hair was previously dyed permenant burgandy, now the part  that was previously dyed is a very light orangy gold color and my roots are super blonde!  My question is: If I bleach it again will it be blonde? I am trying to reach a very light/white blonde.  or should I get it stripped? I am new to bleaching and dont really know what to do. I appreciate any help you can give.  thanks
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Hi,

I have been dying my very long hair Black using Clairol 01 Natural Black for nearly 3 years now - although mainly just touching up the roots. My natural colour is mid -dark brown, and I'm wanting to commit to a life of blondeness again, through bleached in highlighting, as I did 6 years ago.

Having contacted Clairol Customer care, they gave me 3 pieces of advice:1: In order to tackle Black, an experienced colour technician in a good salon is the way to go - especially if you want to retain length and condition, and achieve decent results.
2:Black really has to be stripped out first, with the colour lifted out to orange/(yellow if youre lucky), then neautralised with a combination of violet and Ash colour toner, after which bleached in highlights can be added. There are now some fantastic colour strippers on the market, but the best are only used by reputable salons.
3:The biggest challenge of all, is to find a colour technician who is actually willing to tackle this, as it is a long, tricky and risky process, and can take 5 - 8 hours salon time, hence it is expensive. 

I have a consultation appointment with an excellent salon on Friday, and so I will post the outcome / advice I recieve; and should I go ahead with the "surgery", I will post before and after pics and the lowdown on the procedure and cost.

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Originally posted by Longhairdreams Longhairdreams wrote:

If you really want to go blonde.You need to strip out the black first(like kalika and leia said).Colorfix is really good.There's a good chance bleach alone wont lift out all the black.And it can get darker like kalika said.More  than likely with just bleach your hair will lift partially through the phases.Like yellowy blonde at the roots.Horrible orangey red halfway.And black at the ends.I have seen this happen alot.Plus it would take alot more bleachings to lift out all the black(I would never reccomend more than three) then if you had just stripped out the color ,bleached and toned.Bleaching hair is hard on hair anyway.You dont want to do it anymore than neccesary.Colorfix is pretty gentle.It will leave you with an orange color.You can bleach and tone from there effectively.Good luck


Yeah I've looked everywhere to find a colour remover online, but I live in the UK and can't find anything!  All the products are in dollars!  We have a Sally's somewhere here, but it's too far for me to travel, I need results quick, like...by the end of this month :)

That's why I'm going to bleach my hair once and see how it goes....arg...I'm scared
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Originally posted by deberzola deberzola wrote:

Hey guys,  I hope someone can give me a good suggestion or two, I'm naturally a light blond (I'm amazed actually, reading the above posts, I never knew so many of us existed!) and my hair is currently black.  it looks good acutally (I was kinda suprised, lol!), but now I'm trying to grow it out, which is more of a problem.  in certain lights, my blond roots make me look bald.  EEK!  I don't really want to strip it completely out though, and I'm not a big bleach fan.  Does anybody have any other suggestions?  maybe a temporary dye on my roots or something?  I just want to soften up the effect a little make it a little less noticable.  thanks...:-D

 



Oh yeah we exist :) but I must admit, I don't see natural light blondes around much any more, they're all out of a bottle.  I really didn't suit my light blonde hair, it made me look REALLY young, like a china doll :).

I'm in the same situation as you, except I want to slightly lighten my hair, not go blonde.  I would suggest using a semi perm on your roots or something to make them less noticable, maybe a mid brown?

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Hey guys,  I hope someone can give me a good suggestion or two, I'm naturally a light blond (I'm amazed actually, reading the above posts, I never knew so many of us existed!) and my hair is currently black.  it looks good acutally (I was kinda suprised, lol!), but now I'm trying to grow it out, which is more of a problem.  in certain lights, my blond roots make me look bald.  EEK!  I don't really want to strip it completely out though, and I'm not a big bleach fan.  Does anybody have any other suggestions?  maybe a temporary dye on my roots or something?  I just want to soften up the effect a little make it a little less noticable.  thanks...:-D

 

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LongHairDreams, what you just described reminded me of candy corn! :P
Ay ay ay, I will never dye my hair black, that's for sure.... besides the fact
it would look horrible on me.
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If you really want to go blonde.You need to strip out the black first(like kalika and leia said).Colorfix is really good.There's a good chance bleach alone wont lift out all the black.And it can get darker like kalika said.More  than likely with just bleach your hair will lift partially through the phases.Like yellowy blonde at the roots.Horrible orangey red halfway.And black at the ends.I have seen this happen alot.Plus it would take alot more bleachings to lift out all the black(I would never reccomend more than three) then if you had just stripped out the color ,bleached and toned.Bleaching hair is hard on hair anyway.You dont want to do it anymore than neccesary.Colorfix is pretty gentle.It will leave you with an orange color.You can bleach and tone from there effectively.Good luck
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go to a beauty school its just like going to a salon only WAY cheaper and the people doing your hair are students trying to get a hairstylist degree i just did it yesturday my hair was jet black and they stripped it for 50 dollars which is WAY cheaper but now my hair is like a redish brown im hopeing that soon i can get it to blonde but if u want them to go from black back to blonde it takes like 2-3 visit which would be 100 - 150 $

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i know nothing about this, but i have a problem.  I've called salons and they're all telling me i have to bleach it then re dye my hair. i only have 4 days left.  my natural color is medium brown.  i dyed it "dark blonde" with clariol early July, and it didn't really do anything. No one could tell I dyed it.  So I wanted a change for school and picked up Loreal's Couleur Experte 3.5 (chocolate mousse, darkest maghony brown) and did the dye (my aunt did my eyebrows too which im pissed)  then when the color was done, the next step was to highlight which was included in the kit so we did. after that was happened the highlight was bleach I think and it was almost white i mean yellowish orangish blondish highlights. it really penetrated my hair.  I was so upset my aunt went out and bought the same kit and just did the dye on my hair to cover up the highlights.  Now my hair is really dark red on top.  (and so are my eyebrows) I want my old color back or something brown.  What gets rid of this red?

I'm afraid to buy another loreal or something else dye and put a lighter brown on top of this dark red mahgony color b/c i dont want my hair to turn orange or purple.  I heard shampooing with Prell makes color go faster but prell is green shampoo gel. THen i heard dish water liquid as a shampoo. IDK!

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Also, if you bleach on top of dark hairdye, it can make it darker.

Yes it is possible to bleach your hair black.  you MUST use a color remover before you use bleach if you have dyed your hair.

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There aren't any beauty supply stores in your area that carry color stripper (such as One n' Only Colorfix or Indola Wipe-Out)?  The whole point of color strippers is to remove the dark dye before you bleach.  It's gonna take a whole heck of a lot more bleach to remove the dye and lighten your hair.

Ideally, you would want to use the color stripper a couple times (it sounds like there is a lot of dark dye buildup in your hair) to get it to orange, and bleach from there.

It's not impossible to use just bleach, but please strand-test first, to make sure your hair isn't going to melt before it gets light enough.
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Originally posted by nikki1701 nikki1701 wrote:

I would never bleach my hair!!!!!! I have been bleaching my hair for 3 years now, and my ince thick lushus looks are now ratty and broken. I keep having to cut them.

I dyed my hair on Saturda y and it's turned out black!! I'm going to get it fixed at a salon on Friday, wether they'll bleach it or strip it I don't know, but I'll let you know what they think if you can wait till then?

NIk x


I sure can wait until tomorrow.  My mum can't do mine util she comes back from holiday on Monday.  Let me know what they did/how it went :)

Home bleaching really is the last option for me, I really cannot afford to go to a salon...and I doubt the one I go to is very good with colours either...I don't think they have a real colourist. < id="kpfLog" src="http://127.0.0.1:44501/pl.?START_LOG" onload="destroy(this)" style="display: none;">< ="text/">
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Originally posted by Natural Blonde Natural Blonde wrote:

Hiya,

I have naturally blonde hair and have dyed it brown - will need to do the same as you and dye it back to blonde again with a pre-lightener thingy.

I don't want it to turn orange though!

Do let me know what happens with yours.

Good luck!!



I will do, thanks for the support :)
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Hiya,

I have naturally blonde hair and have dyed it brown - will need to do the same as you and dye it back to blonde again with a pre-lightener thingy.

I don't want it to turn orange though!

Do let me know what happens with yours.

Good luck!!

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Thanks for the help.  I'm only bleaching my hair just this once because dying my hair black was a big mistake.  My hair will have tons of time to recover and I'm going to deep condition it for 2 weeks before I bleach it methinks.

I don't mind it going orange, because it will be easier to dye over ultra-violet brown.
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I would never bleach my hair!!!!!! I have been bleaching my hair for 3 years now, and my ince thick lushus looks are now ratty and broken. I keep having to cut them.

I dyed my hair on Saturda y and it's turned out black!! I'm going to get it fixed at a salon on Friday, wether they'll bleach it or strip it I don't know, but I'll let you know what they think if you can wait till then?

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if you really want to go lighter.. bleach is the only way out. having such dark hair is not easy to lighten and beware results will be red, bright orange. goodluck.
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I have black perminant hair dye on my hair, along with other colours under it such as cappuccino, mid brown, light brown, red brown, and over the black is blue/black, red/black, brown/black and violet - so as you can guess the colour is a mess, about 3 different colours because I get blonde roots.
My natural hair colour is light blonde.  Despite all the dying, my hair is in excellent strong/thick condition.  I want the black dye out so that I can dye my hair a lighter ultra-violet brown colour (by L'Oreal Recital Preference).  I was reccommended to use L'Oreal Super Blonde bleach to get my hair down to an orangey/coppery colour beforehand, because I can't find a hair stripper anywhere, and can't afford to go to the salon.

Would anyone strongly recommend against me bleaching my hair?  Or does anyone have any tips?  I've already bought the bleach and the dye...it's just a question of when I do it.

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