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    Posted: August 22 2005 at 7:45am

you make some good points.Your did the right thing and had a consultation.Your absolutely right alot of stylists continue to make those mistakes even after school.Doing hair in general is trial and error.Some people naturally take to it too though.While others will never quite get it.Color correction isnt always easy.You would be suprised how many people dont have a basic knowledge of chemistry.And with haircolor its chemistry.Thats why you'll read all these posts about people getting  odd colors like green,or grey. Plus it sounds like you really talked it out with these people.Most people dont realize how important it is to tell the stylist your hair history.

I can only speak for myself.I have my own bad experiences at salons. I know I dont want to go somewhere that might be chancy.Because yes you might save ten dollars or so.But Getting it corrected could end up costing you way more.So I vote to go get it fixed somewhere established.Let the students do simple tasks.This is just my opinion.



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Hi Longhairdreams,

Absolutely not trying to be argumentative :-), but I do have a few points that I think are worth discussing in regard to your comments.

You said that you think a cut would be much more appropriate to have done at a beauty college and definitely not a color correction.  I feel exactly the reverse.  My color correction couldn't have gone any better and I think that was due to a few things:  1.  I made sure an *experienced* person (the teacher) was in on the consulation BEFORE anything was done.  It wasn't just a student experimenting on me to learn and "let's see what happens".  The teacher had seen it all before and knew the best way to steer us both AND gave me a very good idea of what to expect for results.  2.  I COMMUNICATED.  I had a photo of the color I wanted and made them explain everything to me so we could all decide together what was the best route to take (thus I got no complete stripping, but will have a somewhat gradual change over time with highlights and lowlights until ALL the black is gone).

I *wouldn't* recommend a cut at a beauty college.  Cutting hair is really a learned art and skill to be finessed over time with a lot of physical practical experience, and this especially applies to curly hair like mine.  Students just haven't had enough time yet to acquire that skill with their hands.  Many expensive stylists who work in real salons don't know how to properly cut curly women's hair well; I think because they just don't have a lot of experience at it.  Coloring with a teacher's guided input, however, is a different story.  If you do X, X, and X, this will be the likely result.  It doesn't take any big skill to section off hair and brush gunk on it, so long as you have help on the chemical knowledge part of it and proper steps from a teacher.  I couldn't have cut my own hair but I could have done a credible job of color correcting if I would have had the the teacher to talk to *in detail* beforehand.

You wrote:
"I know people who went to beauty school and they caused more than a few hair disasters in school.One girl bleached a guys hair to white blonde from medium brown and then permed it!!!. And then she was suprised when it fell out in clumps."

Disasters happen BOTH at beauty schools AND pro salons.  I know many people, myself included, who have paid a lot of money for the "gift" of a bad hair cut/coloring at a fancy salon.  The girl you mentioned obviously didn't consult with her teacher before she did that because any teacher worth his/her salt would have counseled her against it.  I don't think so much that the problem was the girl in a school, but rather the fact that the inexperienced person didn't bother to consult with an experienced person before they proceeded.

Lastly, I also try to follow a general rule no matter where I go:  I won't let a person whose own hair looks like a total whack-job touch my hair anymore.  If they have a big chunk of fake-looking fire-engine red highlights or a "crazy" haircut, they probably won't be in tune with my own desire for a conservative, well-structured cut with natural looking highlights.
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Hi Andrea,

Your situation sounds similar to mine.  I had dark permanent dye on my hair that looked very black.  Now my hair looks much more medium brown, but there is more work I want to do with it over time (more highlights and lowlights) after I give my hair some rest.

Maybe one difference is that I didn't have all of my hair completely stripped.  I also had a really good consultation with the student stylist AND her much more experienced teacher *before* anything was done.  He counseled her about how to approach my problem and go about doing things and they both explained it all to me so I really knew what was going on as it happened.  We all decided that the best thing to do would be to foil my hair like I was just getting all-over highlights (lifting color in sections with every other section a comb-weave to look like the most natural blending with what was left of my black).

The hair near my scalp wound up red/orange at the top like yours, too, but the stylist solved that problem by getting a second bottle of toner in a shade darker than the first toner and simply squirting that in wherever it was needed and let it sit while she combed and cut my hair.  It all blended beautifully in the end.

My hair also was somewhat coarse before I went in to do all of that, but I used protein packs from Sally's both before and after what the beauty college did (this was on top of the 2 conditionings she put in my hair after the toners) and it seems to have helped.  I would think you couldn't go wrong by doing *some* kind of deep conditioning treatments yourself at home now while you figure out what to do about your color.

I wonder if they stripped ALL the color from your hair and then only used one shade of toner, leaving you with the lighter color near the roots?  And did they use heat with your color lifter?  I'm not sure because you don't mention exactly what was done.  Did you bring it to their attention before you left and ask what they could do to take care of the problem?  If so, what did they say?  Good Luck :-)
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Ok, so I know not all stylists are created equal.But I wouldnt reccomend a beauty college if you really like your hair.I think a cut or something simple would be okay.But definitely not for a color correction.I know people who went to beauty school and they caused more than a few hair disasters in school.One girl bleached a guys hair to white blonde from medium brown and then permed it!!!.And then she was suprised when it fell out in clumps.If you go to a beauty school keep in mind they are still learning.
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ok i just did this yesturday i went and got my black hair dye out but now its really straw-like and its like a red orange and blonde at the very top and even if its a big discount itll be another 50 dollars to get it evend and i dont have ne more money so what should i do???

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Hi,

I've read a lot of posts from people who have home coloring disasters they need fixed but who don't have a lot of money to pay what pro salons charge for something that is a bit more advanced and complicated than the average home hair dyer knows how to do.

A possible alternative to seriously consider is getting your coloring (done / fixed) at a local beauty college.  I recently did this and had a really good coloring experience at just a fraction of the price I would have paid at a pro salon.

How I see it:

Benefits:  They have all the knowledge, tools and products needed and they're all included in the lower price of the work (you'd still have to buy all the stuff to do it to yourself anyway); there are experienced teachers who oversee the work of all the students; an extra person to do the tricky back-of-the-head hair part that is hard for a person at home to do to themselves; did I mention a very significant savings compared to what a regular salon would charge? :-)

Tips to have a good experience:

1.  Bring a photo (from a magazine or book, of a friend's hair that you like, etc.) so the student stylist has something visible to go by.

2.  If your coloring situation is difficult, have the student stylist get one of the teachers to consult with the student AND YOU together about how to best proceed to accomplish your objective.

3.  Be realistic.  Don't expect to go from black permanent dye in your hair to platinum blonde all in one day.  They should let you know what you can reasonably expect in coloring results by the end of your visit.

4.  Don't get greedy with your savings.  Yes, the students are there to utilize your hair to gain practical experience and are giving you a big discount for the privilege of doing so, but they're not slaves.  If the student does a good job, give them a good tip afterwards; you'll STILL be saving a large amount on the total cost.

Good luck!  I hope it will turn out as well for any of you as it did for me. :-)

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