sandwich weft placement...

ccross6032 wrote: ya know sans...thinking about it...you could probably "reverse" glue the hair to cover the weft before installing on your head? once less thing to have to direct liquid glue onto  on top of your head.

I'm not sure I'm getting what you mean here. For my experiment I just applied glue to the weft and pushed it against the hair. With LG you have to apply to the hair and weft seperayely and touch them together. Do you have something in your head that's easier? I'd love that!

I think I may try the LG in a syringe thingie, too.

alexia i think if you don't somehow tack the reversed weft down (easiest by gluing) it will flip-flop back and forth. by tacking it down once flipped over it really keeps it nicely in place right over the weft...which makes it look like it's coming out of your scalp. i know it seems like it would be bulky ... but trust me on this .... just do a little sandwiching and it's flat flat flat. try it with just a teeny piece of weft first and see if you like it.. okay...also i just reread your question about the stiffness and i see what you are asking now. it feels like a regular weft track tacked down in my opinion...no stiffer than a regular track with liquid gold. it's really just a thin layer of hair glued over...and you really don't need a ton as it's to cover the weft and not really to keep it in place.

i should point out as i didn't clarify before....i think the reverse flip is best when done like in the BHM photo - right at that area over the crown or anywhere around the top hairlines. that's really where you need the weft covered and likely have short hair that can be difficult to blend with long hair, or not as much hair to cover the weft as you would on areas of your scalp further back.

syren, it's really like taking a section of weft and placing it as if you are trying to cover your whole face (think cousin it)....then ya flip the weft over and glue/sew/whatever..somehow tack the hair so that the weft line is covered by hair....make sense? it's really only for that crown area/top part lines.

ya know sans...thinking about it...you could probably "reverse" glue the hair to cover the weft before installing on your head? once less thing to have to direct liquid glue onto  on top of your head.

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mmmm- doing the reverse flippy thing totally made all the difference in covering the short top layers at my crown - my hair was way too short to cover long hair...and as i mentioned the weft hair was french refined and my own ....is not...

yep syren - so i guess when the weft hair texture is different from the wearers, or you are trying to give your hair a break, or it's too short to blend....basically ya just do cornrows from the forehead back to the nape of the neck, not leaving out any hair except a smidge (like your bangs) at the crown....then he simply placed the tracks horizontally, tacking the weft to the braids. weaveitup on BHM i believe shows this method:

http://public.fotki.com/weaveitup3/sew_in_a_weave/

the guy i went to said that the vertical rows made it so much easier to part the hair, wear it different ways, lasted longer, and for many of his clients they could keep 90% of their hair braided so they didn't need to straighten or relax their own hair except for the small amount out at the bang area during the life of the weave. the hair i bought was a beautiful 22" wavy, my own was super short at the time and straight....it totally looked natural and so blended when he was done - till the crappy bss hair went to crap!

i think the vertical cornrows work really well if you aren't trying to blend your own hair with the weave hair and want to cover it up. if you just need a couple tracks for length with a similar texture you can blend easily, a few horizontal rows seems to be the way to go, in my opinion.

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That is totally amazing! I have to admit that even with the pictures, I don't get it. The finished product is fantastic, however it's done.

That hair she used had the tiniest weft! That's what Bohyme's handtied weft looks like, if anybody cares.

And Cheryl...typical vertical cornrows? I've never heard of that!

I just looked at the info from the BHM site, that is amazing!!!  I'm not sure how much control you would have with LG, but if it could be done, it too would be amzing!!  I just got done installing the Sandwich technique, and I think that I may have gone overboard with the glue.  I wish that there was an easier way to use LG.  I did try the squeeze bottle, and it worked when I had to do a repair job, but when I went to use it for this complete install, the glue had hardened in the bottle.  I used a really small craft paint squeeze bottle.  I think I will try again with a new bottle at the next install. 

Okay, I got it now. But would that work well with glue? She sewed her wefts in and it seems like when she flips her wefts, they would "give" more easily with thread, almost like a hinge on a door. With glue I'm picturing the attach line stiffer and not as resiliant to bending back.

 

 

Where is this picture of reverse weft technique? I'd like to check it out. I planned on placing them straight across my head from top of ear to ear and down and then the sides. No angles or anything.

I never wear my hair up. If anything a low loose ponytail.

how do you think you are going to glue the wefts in(placement)? Im interested in seeing the reverse weft method thing. did you check out the pic on the bhm board? Seems like I good idea ill go 4 it. cant wait to see pics. good luck!

oOo, im gonna try the squeeze bottle too, maybe sherrie will have an opinion on this? im quite interested.

Im confused now, you said it would be super flat but if the weft is glued backwards and flipped to the other side wouldnt the hair make a loop and lay on a side of the loop since the hair would be curvy not bent going the other direction?

edit: sorry if Im confusing!

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oOo I forgot to ask...

Nifty, did you order the hair as wefts from plastikhaar or are you going to make wefts? I was thinking about sewing my own so I could double draw it so the hair would be 60 cm instead of 120 cm and I wouldnt waste so much hair. Do you know if the wefts are already double drawn? I think the website said that the weft hair is 120 cm long so I dont know but Im curious. What type of hair do you have? Im wondering if plastikhaar/sandwich weft method will work for me since I have thin hair but alot of it(it looks thick) and it is stick straight with an outward curl at the end(makes it soo hard to blend w/ straight) Also, does anyone think that naturally straight hair would looks okay with wavy or curly plastikhaar? Thanx for any opinions, suggestions, etc.