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Topic: **Authentic Bohyme Hair Issue** Posted: November 11 2005 at 9:45pm
I read the original post right after she posted it. It's hard to imagine she meant any of it as a personal slam - all of her time on the board, she has been nothing but kind even when people haven't been kind to her. She was trying to be helpful, has bent over backwards to un-offend whomever got offended, so how about giving the girl a break.
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 6:24pm
Wow! I think AFro Puffs is on to something.. In real time talking face to face if Kristin had said that and seen Amanda's look of shock and her jaw drop she would probably have said that did not come out right I'm sorry and been done with it. But here in cyber things don't run in real time and you can't take your foot out of your mouth as fast as you would have liked to. The ball rolled picked up speed and now hurt feelings are everywhere. She said it yes, but I don' think the intention was to attack.
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 6:11pm
I didn't want to respond because this is completely dragging it on and I'd rather it go away but I need to say this again:
For the third time: I did edit my first post which did say that I thought the hair Amanda was selling was great but I had found out it was not authentic Bohyme hair from the people affiliated with Bohyme.com, (neither was the Jazzy Bohyme hair for that matter). I have no doubt that there are lots of companies using the word Bohyme to describe their hair but it is US trademarked by Fashion World who says there is no affiliation with any other company and that they actually own the factory where it is made. Because it was thought that they were affiliated with US companies I thought it would be bad news to find out they were not and also wrote that in there. I took it out after my third post where I noted that I had done so and why.
This was not an attack on you Amanda and I’m deeply sorry if you thought it was. I have no reason to ever try and hurt you and from what it sounds like your business is banging since this post. You’ve always been great to me and with everyone on this board. My deepest apologies go out to anyone who may have been offended or thought I shouldn’t have brought this information to the board.
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 6:08pm
Kristin saw her err and edited her post. I never saw that post until you posted nor did probably a bunch of people. It appears to me that she removed it to make sure your character wasn't attacked.
Kristin loves her some Bohyme. Half of us only know about it because of her so I look at it like she was just doing some research posted her findings and inadvertantly said some questionable things about you but edited her post when she realized how her words could be taken as an attack on you.
I mean it's like whatever. I think both of you have great sites, do great hair and offer a wealth of information. Group hug?
But Amanda, I did visit your site and it's really cute but I just wanted to correct you that the cuticles are not intact on Bohyme hair. They remove them so the hair doesn't tangle as you can see from the illustration below:
In my opinion, Bohyme is a text book example on how to "Play on words" their hair isn't cuticle hair, their hair isn't remy hair. They took the word Remy trademarked it as Remi and have everyone thinking it's pure, remi hair. It's not, it's been processed and has no cuticles. And while Bohyme says they go through some strand by strand process to align cuticles I don't think I've read anywhere where they said the cuticles stay intact.
But nonetheless, a lot of people like it and use it so that's all that matters in the end. I've used it, it's decent hair no real complaints and I'd use it again. I'll use anything as long as it's good to me.
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 5:59pm
Hmm I read Kristin's post before it was edited and certainly didn't read it as a personal attack on Amanda's product.
If anything, I think Amanda's name was mentioned to avoid it seeming that way, as Amanda has said in previous posts that the Bohyme she sells comes in different packaging to the US Bohyme. Also, when I made the original post about Celebrity Elite Bohyme a couple of weeks ago, I only knew it was the same hair Amanda sells after she said so. I got the hair from somewhere else and the post wasn't directed at her in any way.
I personally think Kristin has been very diplomatic and unbiased in all her responses to this thread :/
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 5:46pm
Thank you Cathrynr. I suppose I should see it like that that its not bad news to have great hair but I don't think that's how it was intended to be read unfortunately x
I think the very first post was different than what you put up right now. It was edited alot now and theres responses to an original post thats not there. I dont think thats right. read sherries first post and you can see the reaction.
why is it supposed to be bad news that you have great hair?
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 5:34pm
Putting all this aside, was the bold section in this unedited first post on this thread not aimed directly at me then.
This is what I was told and I just wanted to pass it along. With this being said, it does not mean that some of the knock off brands of Bohyme are bad hair, from what I've heard the hair Amanda uses is great but it's not authentic from the Bohyme company. Sorry for the bad news but I think it's important information that buyers should know.
The comment "this does not mean that some of the knock off brands of bohyme are bad hair" and then going on to say "from what I've heard the hair Amanda uses is great but its not authentic from the bohyme company", mean more or less how I'm reading it that the hair I'm selling is "knock off and not authentic". Then to go on further and put "sorry for the bad news" reads to me that because she has said this that people will be dissappointed and now not buy my hair, otherwise, why would it be bad news.
Am I the only one reading it like this or what. Its a pity people didn't read the posts before they were edited. If you look, every post that has been posted has been edited. This is making people who have defended me now look like they are spouting off over nothing which I think is misleading and unfair.
I felt that I needed to put the record straight a bit. I'm not coming on this board to defend the hair I sell, that speaks for itself.
This seems all a bit too convenient that all of a sudden this is posted just as I get a page selling bohyme with cheap shipping
and I do have to add one little thing.... I work for a manufacturer (not hair, but close) and I have to say we have quite a few patents on our products and we always cross products in between lines and make NO claims to them being the same. What I mean is they have a well know brand that is exclusive to Dr., lets say "xyz", then they take the same exact product and re-package it as "abc" and sell directly to consumers. When people find they are made by the same company the question comes... Are they the same? The answer you would get, would be "They are similar formulations, but not the same." This is to protect the Dr.'s who have an "exclusive product" and hike the prices. What is different about them.... The packaging!
We also sell internationally and package everything different for these customers. It's all marketing!
So..... I don't think anyones 'reputation' is at stake here, and someone should be able to report on what they found or were told by their distributor, because I am sure everyone is acctually right here.
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 4:38pm
Now now now.
Did I miss something? How did this thread go from Kristin's research on authentic Bohyme to a lynch mob defending Amanda's honor? At no time did I ever get the impression that Amanda's hair or person was being defamed so where did this all come from? Kristin reported what SHE WAS TOLD by HER SUPPLIER who, in Kristin's opinion, should be a credible source of information. Said information led to the logical assumption that Bohyme supplied from sources other than American sources would not be authentic Bohyme hair. That's it.
Copyrights and patents are NOT international by default. If a company or person wants patents in other countries, it/he must apply for them also, not just in one's home country. Add to that how some international companies are structured and good luck trying to find out who has exclusive rights to Bohyme - Kristin's supplier's company and Amanda's may be related or they may not. Doesn't matter. Each has the exclusive right to Bohyme in it's respective country. Both reps gave somewhat correct and somewhat erroneous information but they're not patent lawyers - they are hair distributors - so they're forgiven.
I propose we take the information presented and beware not of our Amanda but of those other freaky imposter weirdos like...you know who....and just be aware that fake Bohyme is out there.
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 4:25pm
isnt that the fun of the internet, things can sound different than meant. im sure you didnt mean to offend anyone kristen, all the times ive read this board youve always been so nice. so have you amanda, you girls are all so nice i hate to see misunderstandings.
p.s. amanda - haha i bet youll sell more hair now, scandal always makes people buy!
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 3:12pm
I agree that Amanda has fantastic hair, all of her pictures of look great and like those done with the US Bohyme. Does it really matter where it came from if it's great hair?!? No. If I found great hair that was $10 and being sold out of a shopping cart by people living on the streets I would still buy it. Why because it's good hair, I could careless where it came from if it's quality. The quality of any particular brand of hair was never under question in this post, some have assumed it was. The question brought up was if differently packaged hair was from the same distributer that runs Bohyme.com. I was told directly by fashion world that it's packaged differently because they are not form the same factory or company.
Amanda: Sorry those links didn't work, I guess they expired. Go to this page:
Type in Bohyme and click enter, it should pop right up.
Amm: I'd LOVE to drop this topic, it was never intended to be anything like this. I'll forward it to the Company like you suggested and let them handle it. If they need to contact anyone they will, all of the information is here.
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 2:50pm
LOL, let's not get started on one of our little gross threads leelou lol xx Hey, this can't have done my reputation that much since this thread, I've sold 4 packs of hair today from this board! x
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 2:40pm
I think I'm just going to say this about Bohymegate--
Kristin, if this is proof enough for you then I would ask that this be dropped. I hear what you're saying, I see the brochures, I see your hair. If others need the proof, your link is here and they can contact you and decide for themselves. We can all monitor the UK companies and if they pull the Bohyme trademark off their packaging that they've had out in the open for years, that'll be the best proof.
Perhaps you can give the Bohyme office here in the U.S. the information provided here and they can follow up.
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 2:35pm
well gang i have always gotten my hair from amanda and authentic bohyme or not its fantastic hair! So, it seems that a lot of companies are selling hair under false pretences then? but as long as it does what it says on the packaging( tangle free and cuticle correct etc) and is not priced sky high then people are gonna buy it, authentic or not. Is bohyme then processed using a patented method which is not allowed to be used by any other company? what do they do to the hair that is so different from other processes? once the hair is on our heads who can tell the real bohyme from the fake? are the authentic Bohyme manufacturers sueing all these so called `Bohyme` companies for false representation of goods?? they know they exist so what are they gonna do about them?
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 2:14pm
To any who missed it, I did edit my first post and I wrote why I did so in my thrid post. I was just trying to say that I knew some of the other hair that uses the Bohyme name is great hair, it's just not affiliated with bohyme.com
I tried to call Rachel this morning but i got her voice mail, I will stay on this and come back with anything I find out. I relayed what the company told me but that was obviously not enough proof for me.
Here are some of the pictures of their brochure with the copyrighted images from Bohyme.com
Fashion World owns the registered trademarks to the name Bohyme. I'll give you US government the links but please click the "log out" button when done viewing them; it is to my understanding that you need to release the file so others can view it.
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