Perfect hair- but I need the cap...

Is there a fifference between sock curling and "rag rolling"?  Has anyone ever heard of this?  When I was in public school a friend of mine had her grandma do it every week and she said she twisted up about 10 sections of hair and then tied them with ripped up pieces of cloth.  My hair is layered so I don't think I could just do one sock on either side of my head.  Will it still work with multiple socks, until I get all my hair twisted up?  Hope you can undestand this!

THanks!

DaveDecker wrote: I believe the concept of the sock curling is that you set it in the evening on damp hair and it dries overnight as you sleep.  (right Anais?)

Yup... Blow drying clumps of sock-curled hair won't help, unfortunately. There's no real way to speed up the drying.

Hey Rachel...there is a journal section on this site where you can have a journal for free.  Go and check it out!

I don't see why not  Rachel, your hair is the perfect length for sock curling. However, your hair thickness will determine the size of the curls. To increase curl diameter, use thicker socks. Likewise to decrease curl diameter, use thinner socks.

But using a dryer hood will just dry out the exposed hair... not all of the hair. Sock curling puts all of the curling hair into the two clumps at either ear, so they cannot be speed-dried. It just takes a full night of sleep.  Hope this helps

Hugs (<---- I accidentally typed "Jigs" at first)

Anais  

Hey Rachel  You are on a quest!  I hope you find what you need.

As for the laser brush...it is supposed to stop/prevent hair loss. There are threads about it on the hair loss board.

Have you thought about starting a hair journal? It would help you to keep track of your experiments/techniques and they'd be all in the one place for easy reference.  Something to consider...

oooooookkkkkkkaaaaayyyy

I think missrini is really right. Although I did use vecro rollers years ago
with no problem, it was also before I got into coloring my hair and
various other things. It just makes sense. For the newbies to long hair, a
little review that us long-time long hairs already know.

It just takes one mistake. Just one. Then you wear it for years... and
years... praying for it to grow out. Then you have to deal with the day
that you have enough "nice" new hair for a good-looking short hair cut,
and cut off all the old growth you have been nursing since the big
disaster. Then you are a short-haired person again coming here and
waiting for what seems like an eternity for your long hair again.

Long hairs shun anything that breaks the hair or damages it. It's normal
for me to take the comb from a stylist's assistant and do it myself, I can't
afford a lazy assistant who will grab my hair mid-length and pull the
comb through knots, tearing it at the bottom. Has to be starting to comb
at the bottom, then working my way up the shaft - when I find a knot, I
comb below it, until it comes loose, and gradually up the shaft to the next
tangle.

I never use a brush on wet hair, and never a comb on dry hair.

Its all about conserving the hair, because once it splits or gets damaged,
it looks like crap. If my hair is long but in bad condition, it's not worth
keeping, it will always look bad and like I am trying to pathetically hard to
have long hair for the sake of long hair.

I'll spare you the story of my last hair disaster- in fact i think that
deserves a thread of its own: Long Hair Disasters/Why I am growing my
hair out again.

OK back to the velcro rollers... those same infinite numbers of plastic
loops that are sticking out and grabbing your hair like velcro grabs felt
are probably damaging the hairs. Its the same principle as not using a
brush on wet hair. Friction. Bad. And plastic wont give- but my hair will.
Worse, I was dragging the roller up the hair to "comb" it before I rolled it
up, and naturally, rolling it fairly tight, then I cant help but drag it some
when I am unrolling it. Baaad mugumbo. My hair is strong and resilient
and I use tons of conditioner, but already I could see it accelerating the
damage to my ends. Happily I am about to have my bi-yearly trim on
Saturday, so I hope that cuts off a bunch of what I just damaged the most.

So... what's a girl to do? I tried my first trick, just washing and
conditioning and twisting it up on top of my head and drying with the
soft bonnet... but it never dried inside the twist. I would untwist it a bit,
exposing the wetter parts and get back under the dryer for another 20
minutes, but it was no good. It HAS to air dry at the end. So this is how
it looked Day 1 and 2 after no velcro rollers:


Me no happy. :(

So... I went a-web-hunting... I found some Con Air Ionic Rollers that are
supposed to condition your hair:
http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?
CATID=100842&id=prod1068563&skuid=sku1068553#
they dont use the word "velcro" but I saw
them in the store and I dont know what is "ionic" about them but they still
have those infinite numbers of plastic loops sticking out to make them
stay in place without pins.

I searched all over the web trying to find even the plain hard rollers-
found NONE of those.

These looked possible:
http://www.dollardays.com/i-53023-n-0/wholesale-jumbo-hair-
curlers.html
but I don't want a case of them!

The other things I found were too small- aside
from being collectors items for being just so darn old fashioned.

I found Con Air "Soft Curlers" but I dont know who would consider their
"Large" size as large. I bought them - because i couldnt open the bag in
the store, and I might try using two or three of them together as one
roller... but man, what a pita.
http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?
CATID=100842&navAction=jump&navCount=1&id=prod399373

But there is one thing I found pretty interesting... on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=564797554 5

(the item number is 5647975545, no space)

I looked everywhere else online to find the same thing, these are the only
ones I found, so I bid like crazy and as you can see, I won! It looks like
they are boar-hair bristle round brushes- with no handle, and hollow. I
dont know how I am going to fasten them in place, or even how I will
unroll them (because I have gotten round-brushes completely caught up
in my hair from rolling them up too much) but they give me hope.

There is also a pretty darn good article about long hair here:
http://www.targetwoman.com/articles/laser-hair-brush.html
and they also mention these round brush rollers- but what the heck is a
"laser brush"????

Natch I will report in when I try them and if I try the "soft" curlers.

The search for safe glam hair continues...

Edited by RachelZ3

Rachel -- Thanks for posting all that info! I'm going to try it; don't have a soft bonnet but I'm going to look into getting one. I remember using my mom's hard bonnet when I was a kid. It was a sad day when I had to retire it! By the way, I love the quote in your sig! I always kinda said that to myself -- lol -- when people around me were telling dumb blonde jokes!

Regarding the velco rollers: Do you think that a person who has really "hardy," thick hair might be ok as far as damage is concerned? Some people have really resilliant hair. Even me with my fine hair, it's pretty tough. I remember when I used to get perm on top of perm, and back then I never took any special care of my hair (though I do now), and it was always ok. Though this being the "long hair" part of the forum, I know people here are extra, extra cautious.

Edited by Alayney

Yep, I get the curls, pin curls, but only if I am in a nice dry hot climate,
and sometimes in hot humid climates too. tonight i am trying the way i
did it before, no velcro rollers, just twist it up wet and sit under the soft
bonnet dryer.

Will post a pic...

I believe you about the velcro rollers. Not sure what to do about it yet.
So far I will just rely on conditioning the heck out of it.

thank you missrini :)
I saw your hair pics earlier and boy am i jealous- what a great
color and i love the curls! Suits your skin type too.

Interesting what you say about the velcro rollers. For the moment my
hair is so much LESS frizzy because of the bonnet vs the blow-dryer (plus
the roundbrushing) it seems much better with the velcro rollers. Maybe
its also the tons of conditioner I use... BUT... what you say makes sense.
And as far as I can see it doesn't have to be velcro rollers, any rollers
would do the same. Are there rollers that are that big, and let the air
circulate enough for the hair to dry, and how could they be kept rolled
without the velcro and no creases (bobby pins)?



Edited by RachelZ3

Hi there Rachel.....your hair looks lovely!

Just a word of caution about the velcro rollers though. I used to use velcro rollers in my hair a few years ago to straighten out the curls a bit. The damage they caused to my hair was EXTREME. I had lots of breakage and frizzy "sticky upy" bits.  It took me a while to work out that it was the velcro doing it, but once I did I threw them out quick smart!

Just keep an eye on your hair and make sure you are not getting damage from the rollers.  I'd hate to see your gorgeous hair ruined by velcros!