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    Posted: April 20 2006 at 10:32am
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Well trimming is ok but if you have no splits then you shouldnt. If you are trying to retain the growth then you should dust. If you want to trim you need to do it alot less than  every 6 to 8 weeks...you are basically cutting away the growth that you did get and your hair will basically be the same length.

Why are you  combing out the crinkles if you are going to flat iron anyways?  Let your hair dry in braids, make sure to put a moisturizer or heat protectant on it. After hair is dry remove braids, comb the ends to remove tangles...do about 3 more combs each one a little farther than the first one. Then flat iron...it works.

.. Well I think I combed out the crinkles because for one, i didn't want it to be wave, more pinstraight than anything, and not, the crinkles are packed together so I figured you can't really iron out something packed in..so I just combed it out thoroughly..correct me if Im wrong. Oh and by the way.. in reply to the protein treatment, I do it very often when I have the max. time.  I use Motions CPR Treatment. I love the way it makes my hair feel.  I try to do it at least once every 2 weeks if not more when time permits,as I said.  A lot of ladies thinks this dries hair out and recommend using a moisturizing con afterwards..its different for me. My hair is soo soft and moisturized after using it that I don't need a con.. and if I do the texture changes immensely! Motions CPR, and Infusium I all use to cope with damage.  And on condition wash days(often now-a-days), I use Matrix Biolage Ultra Hydrating Balm...So I don't really understand why I am getting breakage now.. it was a little better a few weeks ago.

 



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Well trimming is ok but if you have no splits then you shouldnt. If you are trying to retain the growth then you should dust. If you want to trim you need to do it alot less than  every 6 to 8 weeks...you are basically cutting away the growth that you did get and your hair will basically be the same length.

Why are you  combing out the crinkles if you are going to flat iron anyways?  Let your hair dry in braids, make sure to put a moisturizer or heat protectant on it. After hair is dry remove braids, comb the ends to remove tangles...do about 3 more combs each one a little farther than the first one. Then flat iron...it works.

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Thank you CMESweet.. the only thing about this is having to loose heat.  I remember not too long ago, just last year, I stopped blow drying because I didn't like the way it made my hair felt.  I started cornrowing my hair to air dry, and flat ironed the next morning.. the only thing I hated about that was the harsh time it took to comb out the crinkles.  And it was soft..just tangled. The longer it gets the more I realize it gets tangled.  2 months ago when I got my hair cut.. it was nice and manageable..now its TOUGH when I use shampoo!  If I dont shampoo its not as hard to blow dry and so forth...  The styling options are okay..I tried the braid out over my vacation, but it just wasn't soft enough for. I was shiny and moisturized..but it didn't look it just by a glance..(magnifying glass!).  It wasn't the best style but it worked, I guess.  I like just waking up putting in a few dabs of mango butter..a quick comb thru..and leaving.  My every day cool hair.. Lately I've noticed that it takes more than a few dabs to get it moisturized.  And I have been doing my same routine; maybe the new growth  is making my hair funny!  Maybe I just need a serious touch up.  Ive been trying to stretch for the life of me, but it hurts my scalp and I think Im breaking way too much.  Why should I not trim? I swear I'm about to schedule an appointment SOMEWHERE! ...My ends are killing me..but Ive seemed to noticed that they may not be dry, just frizzy!
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OK  PickledGuese...I'm gonna try to assist you. I would say try this out for 2 weeks and see if you know a difference.

First here is a link to help you...it has various moisturizing methods and pre-shampoo treatments in it. http://http://www.hairboutique.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID =28728&PN=1">Hair Recipes

Secondly, it seems that you want healthy hair. This is achievable,however, you do have to make sacrifices. Many of the things that I type may have been previously mentioned...just hear me out :). Also, you mentioned earlier that your hair was damaged...it seems that the hair that continues to shed is the pre-damaged hair. So now what you need to work on is the hair that is still attached and the hair that has not been predisposed to damaging styling techniques ( New growth/regrowth)

  1.  Let's cut down on the heat... you can ween yourself off but using either the blow drier and NOT the flat Iron or just the flat iron and NOT the Blow drier. Both can be damaging but using 1 less is a start. Another option would be to find styles that do not include heat and use heat as a special treat. For example...let's say you haven't used heat in 2 weeks...so on week three you use allow yourself to use heat but make sure to take all precautions.
  2. Use a pre-shampoo treatment...when you decide to use shampoo.   The link was posted above, near the intro.
  3. Make sure to always try to keep moisture...conditioner washes are great.  You could make your conditioner washes even better by adding a PEA SIZE amount of olive oil in your conditioner. Only  a pea size or less because your hair is relaxed and you don't want it to get limp.
  4. Eat healthy and drink lots of water or eat foods which consists of lots of water. Remember hair starts from the inside out.
  5. Because of the damage you may need a protein treatment atleast once a month. Some members use the aphogee treatment, I haven't used it but you might want to ask about it.
  6. Do not TRIM your ends, only dust them or S & D.    Dusting consists of trimming a very minute amount of hair...just an itsy tiny bit.    S& D= search and destroy. The name says it all, you search out the split ends and you only cut those off (you can keep your length using this method).

Styling options/ ideas: 

http://www.hairboutique.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29585& amp; amp;PN=1"> Hair styling techniques

Here are a few more based off of the "mullet" you described.

2 strand flat twists in the front...crinkly hair in the back. ( Use a small amount of gel and a dap of hair lotion/skin lotion on wet hair...crinkle with hands while air drying/ diffusing) Don't use much lotion but it keeps the hair soft, instead of hard.

2 strand flat twist-out...on wet hair make a few 2 strand twists from crown to front. After hair is dry, remove flat twists and shape to your liking. 

Add hair clips to hair...give it "tude"

roller set/ straw set = above in previous link

french roll the back and roller set/ pin curl the top that don't fit in the french roll.

You have lots of options.

Sorry for the length of this post.

 



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Yeah I just realized that my hair is really breaking a lot.. I washed, deep conditoned twice, blow dryed, and flat iron..and my shoulders were bad... and my ends still look like utter trash. I feel like busting into tears.. :(..so long healthy hair challenge.  I went on a vacation and my hair is just in complete shambles.. Are you referring to Condtioning shampoos or conditioner washes?  I think conditioner washes are great because their quick and makes my hair instantly soft.  You know I'm getting way too tired of this. Maybe I am doing way too much to my hair ...with blow drying and flat ironing at one time. I'm so sick of this!  All I've wanted was nice pinstraight hair that glows.  No matter what I do..I cannot get this.  Maybe it's my blow dryer, maybe it's my flat iron.  I'm just about to give up on this hair care regimen, and get back to not care, when it flourished most.  Please give me some advice before I call it quits. PS: I tried ORS Replenishing pack it was okay, however, after rinsing it hadan odd texture, which I didn't like.

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Pickled, you mentioned split ends. I noticed that the more often I washed my hair and the stronger the detergent in the shampoo, the more split ends. I recommend CON shampoos. I had tortuous and nightmarish breakage also and it has since stopped.

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If your conditioners have a lot of silicones, that usually makes your hair dry faster than normal. I can't say for sure that's the problem.

I can't answer the rest of your post, as I don't know.

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Hey Ladies, sorry to bug you all again , but a few questions here.  It seems as if when I wash my hair it is not dripping wet, it's as if it instantly dries once I get out of the shower.  When I am trying to either get my hair set for drying the ends of the top portion are almost dry.  Why is that?  And two, my hair doesn't feel fully moisturized when I air dry, although I feel I put enough moisturizing products on it.  I want to air dry, and have my hair not shrink and mat up, however I have yet to wash and tie my hair up in the silk scarf.  So will my hair not shrink up with using a scarf and combing everything flat?

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So I yesterday night I tried hood drying.. and let me just say it was an absolute mess.  My hair was matted to my hair ..and now I have to rewash today..:( After I washed..I applied infusium and a setting lotion..and attempted to wrap my hair.  my hair doesn't stay wet for long after getting out of the shower..so half of it was pretty much dry once I started drying and would not lie down.  I have no clue what I did wrong but I guess I'm sticking to blow drying. Also my scalp was dried out!!! eww

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Originally posted by PickledGeuse PickledGeuse wrote:

Thanks For the recommendation Wishe.  I have seen that pak at the BSS and was hesitant to buy it; I noticed one of my good friends uses it weekly..and she has smooth frizzless hair.  On two sides of my head patches of my hair had broken off last summer.  They blend in a lot better than they did back then. However, I was told by a stylist that these parts of my hair will never be the same length as the rest of my hair, and in order for it to be long..I'd have to cut it all off. True or False? Does anyone have any info about growing theses spontaneous spots back.  The ends of my hair seem to still be very dead..and i've noticed that they look best when I smooth a combo of vaseline and Mango butter on them.  Also I found a silk scarf at my grandmothers house..but am not too sure if there is a proper way to wrap it....Tips! PS:  Im thinking of hood drying tonite..any tips?

I don't think you will have to cut your hair to make it even.  Those patches will catch up sooner or later.  As for the dryer, select the one that has mult-heat settings.  I would suggest getting a hooded dryer with a wattage around 1600 watts.  In regards to the scarf tying method, just make sure that you move the "knot" around, not at the same spot.  This is to prevent rubbing of the nape and other areas.  Good luck Pickles.

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PG, I can't say for sure it would work, but I've read all over the place that a lot of people use MTG to grow out spots like that.
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Thanks For the recommendation Wishe.  I have seen that pak at the BSS and was hesitant to buy it; I noticed one of my good friends uses it weekly..and she has smooth frizzless hair.  On two sides of my head patches of my hair had broken off last summer.  They blend in a lot better than they did back then. However, I was told by a stylist that these parts of my hair will never be the same length as the rest of my hair, and in order for it to be long..I'd have to cut it all off. True or False? Does anyone have any info about growing theses spontaneous spots back.  The ends of my hair seem to still be very dead..and i've noticed that they look best when I smooth a combo of vaseline and Mango butter on them.  Also I found a silk scarf at my grandmothers house..but am not too sure if there is a proper way to wrap it....Tips! PS:  Im thinking of hood drying tonite..any tips?

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I would like to recommend a product.  It is called Organic Root Stimulator Olive Oil Replenishing Pak.  That stuff is good.  It pack a wallop of moisture and portein and it detangles hair like a dream.  The cheapest place I found it was at the Family Dollar.  It comes in a packet.  So if you don't like it, you're not stuck with a bottle that you hate.  Good luck Pickles.
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Thanks for all the tips!  Here's an update.  So this week I've used a lot of mango butter, and an oil moisturizer and an essential oils(for the scalp).  I finally shampooed with Creme Of Nature, it is pretty good.  It feels like my hair when I deep condition.  I've also noticed that my hair in the back is growing slowly but surely, the top is ALRIGHT.  It's not as fast as I would like to be.  The only thing I'm not too sure about are my ends.  once in awhile I see a split end..but when I check my hair ..I never see them.  I recently had my hair cut on the 26 of Feb..and getting another cut would be absoultly redundant...Besides I think I've been cutting my hair faster than it grows and I end up chopping off my growth plus some..then its back to point A...and sometimes shorter than initially.  Help!
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The SIX steps to longer, healthy hair
1. Shampoo Properly
2. Condition weekly
3. Moisturize daily! (its a must)
4. Care for your scalp.
5. Eat a balanced diet
6. Avoid hair damage. dont make the common mistakes that ruin your hair
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Just buy a bigger scarf. This method for drying will be MUCH better than blow drying, trust me! There's nothing to be scared of. You're simply combing it back and putting a scarf on it. It will dry flat, then when it dries, you can flat iron or curl it if you wish. In my personal experience, this even helped my hair to dry straighter.
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Uh oh! I've never dont a wrap before.  Also the width of my scarf only fits the top portion of my hair.  It's more of a silk headband than a scarf.  I'm really scared to try this I really don't want to have that bad experience with the shed anymore!
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That's even easier. If the top is short, just comb it back and put the lower portion in a low ponytail. The point is to "flatten" the hair while the scarf is on it until it dries. The top will dry flat, kind of like a "wrap".
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Originally posted by Renata22 Renata22 wrote:

PickledGeuse, Try this:

Wash your hair Friday night (whatever your regimen). When your hair is still wet, moisturize it, and comb it back into a low ponytail and put a scarf on it. Take it down Saturday night or Sunday morning. The top portion of your hair will be dry and straight, the ponytail will probably still be wet....let it air dry and then flat iron it. That should be good because you used NO dryer, less heat, and just on the very  ends. Of course, use a heat protectant on the ends before flat ironing.

A better alternative in my opinion: Wash your hair Friday night. While the hair is still wet, moisturize, use a little setting lotion, and cornrow the hair. Allow the hair to dry over the weekend (doesn't need a scarf on it except to sleep in), and unbraid it Monday morning. FINGER COMB ONLY! Using a comb/brush in braided hair causes frizziness. Wrap your hair every night (loosely) and re-do Friday night. NO HEAT AT ALL, so it's great. Plus it looks really good.

The way I braided my hair that was really cute: the back half just going down. The top half: parted in the middle with the cornrows just braided down the sides. I like this better because if I SIDE part it, one side looks fuller/curlier than the other side, but when both sides are equal, it looks very good.

One good thing about a braidout is that the cornrows don't have to be perfect! Which is really good since I can't braid for crap!

I loaned my hairdryer to my neighbor 2 months ago, and I don't even care if she ever gives it back.

Tell me if either of these work for you.

 

Renata, I can't put all of my hair into a pony tail because I have a mullet cut.  I can do two pony's one on top and one on bottom.  But I've found that this is a disaster waiting to happen.  I tried my version at bantu knots once , and it pretty much the same thing. I shed so much and it was just unbelievably hard to comb out. Since, my hair is really short(neck length), top part barely an inch, it only takes a few hours for my hair to dry.  Most of the ends become dry as soon as I start moisturizing after a shower



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I've tried conrows again!  I CW, sprayed on Keratin leave-in, moisturized, cornrowed my hair up, put on a satin cap, and took my behind to bed!  I woke up in the morning, took them out, and didn't like the results of the "curlyness", so I decided to comb it out and flat iron.  It came out pretty good, but its just not STICK STRAIGHT like I like it, and I can still notice the curlys in certain places, the ends are just awful.  Also there was a moderate amount of shed and maybe breakage.  I haven't used a good deep conditioner in about 3 weeks so maybe that is why.  I've been subtituting my regular humectant co with my deep conditioner(which was Motions CPR Treatment).  Next week instead of using KeraCare, I'm going to switch to Creme Of Nature poo & co, with Motions CPR treatment(deep conditioner).  Also, I'm going to try out castor oil!  I've never felt the need to CW after using Motions CPR, but someone has said before that I definitely should.  For some reason I enjoy the straight (almost thin) feel.  I was considering reconstructing also, but I have no clue of how to do that, and don't want to mess things of even more than I already have.  I have noticed that my hair is stronger, but I still shed like a dog! 



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