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    Posted: March 16 2006 at 9:42pm
I think I know of two black-owned BSS store in Chicago and they mainly sell professional hair products.
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oh trust me i dont,it IS just the internet, i was just being my humorous-sarcastic self! everyones opinion is what makes this thing interesting!
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Originally posted by taggi taggi wrote:

omg, ok i give up!!! im completely done posting on this topic!!  NEEEXXXTTT!!

Hey taggi,

Don't go away feeling bad.  Everyones point of view is important here.  Please don't take offense.

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omg, ok i give up!!! im completely done posting on this topic!!  NEEEXXXTTT!!
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Well, taggi, the first post was pointing out the lack of black business owners in black hair care, and I was just giving my opinion as the thread starter asked for everyone's opinion.

If we don't care that we're not in charge of or benefit from the sale of items that we PRIMARILY finance, who should?

 



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Gurls,

hate to burst any bubbles, but this is about both including black business owners because they are not running most of the hair biz.

JTIH

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ok renata, i think yur getting a little off the point!! this forum is about african american hair, not  black business owners. 2 get this thing back on board, does anyone here think it makes a difference who actually manufactures our hair products? i know when i go buy something i look at the price,ingredients, and what the product does. i NEVER find myself looking at who manufactured it. what do you thingk???
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Originally posted by Renata22 Renata22 wrote:

CaramelDiva, get some Muslim friends, and they'll give you some scarves for free. I have so many scarves, I had to pack most of them away.

Girl, then send me one!

I ususally don't like going into the Asian BSS stores, but there is this one near my neighborhood where the owner, speaks perfect English and knows her stuff.  She can match a weave to your hair like nobody's business, and knows what every product in her store is and what it does.  I think she just happens to have good business sense in general, Asian, African, Hispanic, White, whatever. 

But now, I buy organic, from the all white employees at the Vitamin Shoppee  and they never know what I'm looking for.  I find myself educating them on the many uses of tea tree oil.

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Magic Johnson owns a movie theater and a starbucks over here. He used to own a TGI Friday's, but IHOP put him out of business. He also owns at least one business (BK) in Buckhead, but that's a mostly (singles) white area.

(Of course he doesn't live here, though).

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It's not like that in Atlanta. My neighborhood (Cascade/Ben Hill/Ralph D. Abernathy/Benjamin Mays) is perhaps 98% black. I'm basing that on what I see when I go out to all of the area stores (mostly black american/Jamaican/African owned) and from just being in the area for a long time.

The four white people I regularly see in this area are here because they're married to black people. It's a very mixed income area, with houses ranging from $90,000 to over $800,000. The mayor of Atlanta (Shirley Franklin) still lives in this area just as she did before she ever got involved in politics. I've met her on 3 different occasions, but I don't think she would remember me. One lady owns a children's therapy clinic on Ralph D. Abernathy, and she lives close enough to walk there every day. The lady who owns the child care center across the street lives in this area.

East Point, College Park, Lithonia, and parts of Stone Mountain are very similar.



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Originally posted by taggi taggi wrote:

i totally understand, but who knows if the black bss owner lives in the community??? over here most successful black business owners move out to the "white" neighborhoods,so their taxes do nothing for our ppl. it is ultimately up to us as the man said on the video 2 be economically educated to carry out a good business. when i say frightened, i dont mean we actually get scared of other races that own bss. i simply mean that we should look past the ppl selling the products,and just look to the products.

on another note: doesn't it suprise anyone else that most black hair care products contain mineral oil? from what i have read on this forum that is really bad for our hair, so why arent they catering to us when it comes to ingredients???

I agree with you.  The same goes here in California, and probably everywhere else. I live in a white neighbor hood myself...have for many years, but that's another thread.



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I know what you are saying.  Not to type cast folks, but attitude is a major factor in running a business.  If your attitude is foul, then sooner or later it is going to affect business.  Unless you are the only business that offers a unique service or product.

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Yes, attitude is very important no matter who you are and what type of business you run.  However I don't believe that if you have something unique to offer that people should be treated disrespectfully...and I know you understand what I mean.

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i totally understand, but who knows if the black bss owner lives in the community??? over here most successful black business owners move out to the "white" neighborhoods,so their taxes do nothing for our ppl. it is ultimately up to us as the man said on the video 2 be economically educated to carry out a good business. when i say frightened, i dont mean we actually get scared of other races that own bss. i simply mean that we should look past the ppl selling the products,and just look to the products.

on another note: doesn't it suprise anyone else that most black hair care products contain mineral oil? from what i have read on this forum that is really bad for our hair, so why arent they catering to us when it comes to ingredients???



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Taggi, It's not so much about being frightened about anything. To me, it's more about wanting our community and our people to benefit from the sale of items bought PRIMARILY by us. So, if you had a choice between the following two, who would you choose:

1. BSS owned by a black family. Their house is in our neighborhood (so their taxes are benefitting our neighborhood). The money they earn, they use in stores in my neighborhood. They're children go to the schools where my kids go (which means my kids are going to school with other children whose parents have a good outlook on life and believe in building their community.)

2. BSS owned by a korean family. Their house is in a white neighborhood. The money they earn, they use in white owned stores. They're children don't go to schools with our kids. All of the money they get FROM US, they take to benefit another neighborhood far from where their customers live.

I'm really not as racist as I may sound, but I believe that if someone thinks they're too good to live near me, have their kids in the same schools that my kids go to, and too good to go to businesses owned by us, they can stay to themselves, and that includes my going to their business.

I'm not trying to convince you to think my way, we can agree to disagree, but I hope you at least understand why I feel this way.

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here in houston where i live, the main asian group is vietnamese. ive only known 1 korean gurl who went to school with me and the bss here are usually owned and operated by africans. the vietnamese ppl dont bother with other cultures because they prefer what i call "racial seclusion" from everyone else. they have there own strip of stores,some street signs written in their language, and give other ppl,especially blacks, dirty looks.

the thing with the african owners though, they really know how to rip u off on their prices. i bought some human hair from a small town where i go 2 skool and it was $10 less than the same exact one i usually get when i come home. all in all, business is business. owners will do what they want to pay the bills. and i dont think it truly matters that black hair care products are manufactured by non-black companyies(like pantene relaxed and natural by regular pantene pro-v. we need 2 stop being so frightened by other races when it comes to hair care,besides as long as it cleans,moisturizes, and conditions who cares what race squeezed the goo into the bottle!!!

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Originally posted by Hair Goddess Hair Goddess wrote:

Thanks to you all for your responses.

I have read them all thoroughly and appreciate hearing from you.

In the suburb here in California, there's one place that I actually frequented to purchase my instant weaves and hair care products.  The asian woman spoke okay English.  She hired a black female to run the counter.  She has a terrible attitude problem and does not want to assist the customer.  I refuse to go there anymore needless to say.  I found another place a little closer and not only are they very accomodating, but they are too asian.  There's 3 asian women.  One of them speaks perfect English.  She's around 30 I guess.  She is very nice and understands business.

I've noticed here...not to bash, but 'some' blacks have a tendency to have an attitude problem.  I'm sure some of you can relate.  They are busy being jealous or whatever they are, they just try to pass on their hang ups...letting personal feelings get in the way of 'business'.

That's my take on things anyway.

 

I know what you are saying.  Not to type cast folks, but attitude is a major factor in running a business.  If your attitude is foul, then sooner or later it is going to affect business.  Unless you are the only business that offers a unique service or product.

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Thanks to you all for your responses.

I have read them all thoroughly and appreciate hearing from you.

In the suburb here in California, there's one place that I actually frequented to purchase my instant weaves and hair care products.  The asian woman spoke okay English.  She hired a black female to run the counter.  She has a terrible attitude problem and does not want to assist the customer.  I refuse to go there anymore needless to say.  I found another place a little closer and not only are they very accomodating, but they are too asian.  There's 3 asian women.  One of them speaks perfect English.  She's around 30 I guess.  She is very nice and understands business.

I've noticed here...not to bash, but 'some' blacks have a tendency to have an attitude problem.  I'm sure some of you can relate.  They are busy being jealous or whatever they are, they just try to pass on their hang ups...letting personal feelings get in the way of 'business'.

That's my take on things anyway.

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Thanks Renata22- that's the kind that i do purchase once in a blue moon in there. Don't have any  muslim friends currently- the one i had moved away.
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And not just some little pitiful scarf, but those HUGE "have to fold three times", "can use the pretty ones as a decoration on furniture" types of scarves.
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