QuoteReplyTopic: Pro-Tac : want to go in on a CHEAP order? Posted: April 03 2006 at 7:05pm
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Why are folks jumping all over BirdofEden? Jeez.. If you want some tape order it, if you don't then don't order it... What's with all the back and forth stuff? All over some tape..
Girl!!! I'm reading this, and that's what I'm trying to figure out.. Sheesh!!!
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OMG- this is just aweful and so blown out of proportion-
eden was just trying to get you all in on a good deal so everyone could save money- and eden, the girls were just trying to make sure it was really legit.
there really is no need for this back and forth bickering about tape and validity of it all- you either want the tape or u dont- lets stop the attacking will ya??
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Why are folks jumping all over BirdofEden? Jeez.. If you want some tape order it, if you don't then don't order it... What's with all the back and forth stuff? All over some tape..
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Elvira, I never once attacked you personally. Re-read your posts and realize that you are the only one here making nasty comments. I, at the very least, have been debating the issue without resorting to nastyness. Further, you obviously didn't even read the information I supplied to begin with because you are now spouting erroneous info.
Seriously, I never once had an issue with anyone asking questions. What the issue is, is that after I repeatedly answered the questions, I still had people trying to find reasons why my information was incorrect, as if the words I typed into the computer screen were sheerly false. What person in the world is actually going to LIKE that? I am not in the wrong by feeling turned off about that. Go back and read the sequence of posts over again. I asked if anyone wanted to go in on an order. Shell asked questions. I answered them. And that should have been that. Instead, the insinuations that the product was not infact real, kept coming!
Much in the same way, a while back there was questions of whether or not a person on this board selling UK Bohyme was selling fake Bohyme. Nobody minds having questions asked, but once they are answered and people continue to make accusations, it does become an issue of discrediting the person who is claiming the product is real. Nobody likes to be made out as dishonest.
Finally, this thread has sunk to a level that I am above, and you (in general) can continue to discuss, but I've made my point, and I'm not going to repeat myself one more time!
Yes, you asked for details. I myself would ask for details. That's perfectly reasonable. And I provided them to you, along with measurements, descriptions, even a photo. That should have been the end of it. But instead I got a continuous flow of disbelief. Then it is portrayed that I am in the wrong for being agitated. You would be agitated too when your credibility was being attacked (albiet in a passive-aggressive way). Then you say to move on, and in the same sentence "I've changed my mind now anyway". But let's be honest. In your pm's to me, you never intended to go in on the order to begine with. You just expressed interest in finding out if my supplier was in the UK so you could make your own order. You even said you didn't want to order from the US. Anyways, this is ridiculous. I'm not going to argue the validity of the product, nor my justification for being agitated. End of communication!
Bird - Will you please stop attacking me! I have appologised twice aready if my questions offended you what else can i do? Like i said, i was only asking questions not calling you a lyer or insulting you but i feel you replyed with an attitude accusing me of saying you were a lyer! Im not interested in who your supplier is and WAS interested in the order which is why i asked questions about it before my money was going anywhere but after the attitude I changed my mind. What am i going to do with 400m of protac?? I dont have a large market for it over here so would have went in on your order no problem had there not been this. If you dont want to reveal your supplier then no problem, i only asked.
I didnt say anywhere that i didnt want to order from the US so you have read my posts wrong and my only pm to you was a few weeks ago when you offered the same and i asked you where this was coming from twice but you didnt get back to me hense me asking you for a third time on this post.
Also I have appologised on several occasions on this thread if my questions offended you so please stop attacking me in your posts.
OMG- this is just aweful and so blown out of proportion-
eden was just trying to get you all in on a good deal so everyone could save money- and eden, the girls were just trying to make sure it was really legit.
there really is no need for this back and forth bickering about tape and validity of it all- you either want the tape or u dont- lets stop the attacking will ya??
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For all those who are licensed, you can get protac from Onrite in the 12" strips for about $67 for 96 strips. I think that works out to about .75 per strip.
You need to be licensed and have an account with them though.
Oh ya Eden, we are all in cohoots to find out who your big supplier of rolled protac tape at that oh so special price you scored @ what was it....$1.49?? per foot? Get over yourself. Nobody gives a hoot.
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Yes, you asked for details. I myself would ask for details. That's perfectly reasonable. And I provided them to you, along with measurements, descriptions, even a photo. That should have been the end of it. But instead I got a continuous flow of disbelief. Then it is portrayed that I am in the wrong for being agitated. You would be agitated too when your credibility was being attacked (albiet in a passive-aggressive way). Then you say to move on, and in the same sentence "I've changed my mind now anyway". But let's be honest. In your pm's to me, you never intended to go in on the order to begine with. You just expressed interest in finding out if my supplier was in the UK so you could make your own order. You even said you didn't want to order from the US. Anyways, this is ridiculous. I'm not going to argue the validity of the product, nor my justification for being agitated. End of communication!
My posts obviously offended you bird but that wasn't my intension. Of course people are going to be wearing when putting their money into an order that they have no idea where it is and i was only asking you for more details which was perfectly fair considering yor first post didnt have alot of information and Im sorry but if i am paying someone money then i want to know details but you miss-understood me.
Lets just move off from this now as this thread has now side-tracked. If anyone wants to order then great, ive changed my mind now anyway.
So even though nobody came right out and said it was a ripoff imitation, there are certain assumptions being made from the start that come across as implicating, even AFTER I stated repeatedly that I already tried this tape before. So if a person doesn't believe my word, that's quite alright. But I do have to admit it's a bit nerve grating to continuously to read the same thing being stated in different terms. Believe me or don't, but stop discrediting me.
Do you think that you just might be able to move past the fact that comments made on this post were no way discrediting or disbelieving you? Nerve grating??? oh ya............
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Bird I dont think its a bad deal at all...but if you have to order THAT huge of a quantity to get that price break then it just seems to me they arent making you a great deal. Considering all the hassles involved with getting a large order together.
There was no attitude or being defensive to begin with. I posted a simple thread to ask if anyone wanted to go in on an order, and right off the bat I get comments about how "The only roll of this i have seen is not the same as the strips everyone buys as it doesnt have the blue backing, air holes and is 3/4 as opposed to 1 1/2" and "if you ordered from who I think you did, they tell you that it's the same as Protac but when you get it, it's not the exact same".
So even though nobody came right out and said it was a ripoff imitation, there are certain assumptions being made from the start that come across as implicating, even AFTER I stated repeatedly that I already tried this tape before. So if a person doesn't believe my word, that's quite alright. But I do have to admit it's a bit nerve grating to continuously to read the same thing being stated in different terms. Believe me or don't, but stop discrediting me.
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