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    Posted: August 17 2006 at 4:43pm

Oh, thats neat, I didn't know i could phone a salon for a free consultant! Ill try that!

thanks everyone for your help :)
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It sounds like you are doing everything right as far as your routine goes.  The conditioning and leave-in treatments are excellent for hair.  You could always call a salon and ask for someone with long hair for a free consult. (also, call an expensive salon, not one like Sams).  You shouldn't have to pay for this.  Since it's just a consult, you can find out if your hair is damaged or not, and get a professional's advice for your hair.  BUT, at that time, don't let them cut it for you, tell them you don't have time, and will call back.  Because, after all their job is to cut hair!  And, I can't imagine them telling you it looks great at that length, because they get money from cutting people's hair!

**Hair type: 2a, which is wavy and fine.
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If you wear your hair in tight ponys and buns, you can cause that kind of damage. And if you add an elastic to the equation, you can increase the breakage like you described. Try using scrunchies instead of elastics. You can use them to make buns as well.

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Thank-you so much for wanting to help Sharvq11!
 
Well i have been rotating product around a lot,  but when i first noticed the damage, i started using ganier antifrizz serum, and ganier smoothing milk.Even though my hair wasn't actually "frizzy"  i used a lot of these 2 products, in order to weigh doesn the little hairs sticking up. Sometimes i'd even spray them with hairspray.  I'd also use a heat protecter when i straightened my hair (tresseme, i think.) I rotated thought a lot of "smoothing" add "moisturizing" shampoos. These included dove shampoo and condtioner, tresseme vitamen e condtioner, neutrogena triple moisture S and C, herbal essences shampoo, baby shampoo, and garnier long and strong. I also deep condtioned a lot.
 
Now, i am using tresseme colour care shampoo (I dont have coloured hair, but i thought it would be gentle, and only contained one sulfate.) and tresseme vitamen e rich conditioner. When i get out of the shower, i detangle with loreal kids detangler, and a widetoothed comb. *Note: I never used to use detangler, or a widetoothed comb, and my hair is pretty fine and prone to tangles. Maybe are those little hairs caused by breakage, from my trying to yank out the tangles before?
 
No, i don't tie my hair with an elastic band while wet. I used to deep contion, but havn't in the past couple of weeks or so. I'm also not that good for triming my hair. I did just recently get it trimmed though, but the last time i had my hair trimmed before that was in march! How often should i get my hair trimed?
 
One other thing that came to mind, was that i used to like doing my hair in all sorts of fancy buns, where i put my hair up with an elastic, and used a bunch a bobby pics, to make it look messy. Do you think that contribute to breakage?
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I really doubt the damage is caused by silicone. I use products with silicone all the time and do alot of heat styling and my hair looks great. Other than build up silicone doesn't cause any problems on my hair. And I take care of that by using a clarifying shampoo.
 
Maybe is the quality of products you use. What products do you use? what is your regimen? when you wash your hair, how do you detangle it (with a brush or come)? If with a come, what kind of come do you use? Do you tie you hair with an elastic band while wet? Do you deep condition? How often do you trim your hair?
 
You see, damage or frizz can be caused by alot of things. The girl in the picture above is in desperate need of deep conditioning, some protein treatments, and a major trim. She doesn't have any breakage at the crown, so it just looks like hair that hasn't been very well taken care of, resulting in dryness, split ends and frizz.
 
Give me a little more info and maybe we can figure out a good regimen for  you.
 
Good Luckand beautiful hair.
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Silicones are hair's best friends.  You don't need to skip silicones!  They do build-up, so use a clarifying shampoo like Neutrogena Anti-Residue, or Tigi Mega Vitamin Shampoo once a week or every two weeks. 
 
I love Thermasilk Leave-in Conditioner/Detangling Spray, it's the only thing I use on my hair before I will put a comb through it. 
 
Goodluck!

**Hair type: 2a, which is wavy and fine.
**Color: Naturally dark brown, currently dyed reddish brown.
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I was just searching through old posts about damage, ect, when i found a picture of a girls hair that is similar to mine:
Could someone tell me what that is? Is it frizz, or is it damage? Or split ends that has worked its way up?
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Ok, i think i will ask a stylist.
I just thought it could be silicones, because i read somewhere that if u have a buildup of silicones in your hair, Parts of that layer could break of, taking the hair cuticle with it, therefore causing breakage?
 
Thanks for the imput though :)
 
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Originally posted by Lovely_hunni Lovely_hunni wrote:

Also, when i comb my hair, they tend to stick out more.
Could they be breakage from combing my hair?
 
Possibly but not necessarily.  It's about impossible to tell without looking at it.  You might want to ask a stylist. 
 
One of the jobs of silicone is to smooth down the hair, so when silicones are used, the hair has the "shampoo commercial smoothness" because all the various ends are not flying up.  So, if you quit using silicones, obviously they're no longer doing the job of smoothing your hair, so the hair will naturally stick up again.
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The hair sticking up has thin tapered tips, not split or frayed.

I just don't understand, if they are new growth, why is there so many of them?
Also, when i comb my hair, they tend to stick out more.
Could they be breakage from combing my hair?
 
I appreciate the help ladies, but im still a little confused.
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Those hairs sticking up... do they have thin tapered tips or do they look frayed? If they have thin baby tips then they are new growth.

You may want to consider whether it's really damage, or if you're just noticing your hair growing.

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Hi, I think it's really hard for any of us to tell exactly what the problem was.  Were there any other ingredients that are considered problematic in the products that you use? 
 
The hair that is sticking up -- are the ends split?  It's possible that all the hair just simply isn't the exact same length.  Sometimes if we're ever prone to a bit of frizziness, the little ends sticking up might resemble split ends but really aren't split at all.
 
I'm not sure where it is (perhaps the long hair forum?) but I think Anais listed a website that gives a glossary of hair ingredients.  You can find out which ingredients are best to be avoided and which ones are good.
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Please! Anyone?

i am desperate for help!

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Overall, my hair  is pretty soft, being fine, but gets more course as i run my hand down towards the ends of my hair.My hair type is 1b. F.Normal and has these little bits of hair randomly sticking up starting from just below my earlobe, and increase in number towards the end of my hair. (My hair falls to about the starting  of my rib cage.) I'm assuming this is damage? What bothers me though, is how i got this damage? I rarely use heat on my hair, and never had permanently died my hair. What I was thinking is that maybe it was caused by my condtioner, and smothing styling products, which recently realized had a butt load of silicones in them all. Now, i really want to start a new hair regimen. Could anyone help suggest products that would be good for my hair? I was thinking of using a gentle shampoo, low/no silicone conditioner and maybe a silicone free detangler/leave-in spray, since my hair tends to tangle easily!

Thanks so much to all who can help me!!

 

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