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    Posted: January 21 2007 at 3:54pm
you amaze me to no end.   i cannot get my mind around this or even would attempe to try itConfused- however, a great business idea for u would be to have people supply you the hair and u weft it for them. you rock go girl.
most of you Diyers simply amaze me with your ideas, creativity and research. I give u all a standing novation.Thumbs%20Up Keep up the great work, you ALL inspire me!
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I thought I'd share some more tidbits of information that I've allready posted in Sherries hair forum.

I've done a little more experimenting and have found a thread that works excellently. :) It's something called "grizzly extra strong", I suppose it is some kind of upholstery thread. It's all synthetic and as thin as regular sewing thread except it's so strong that using all my strength pulling it on two ends I can't break it.

It has a lot more texture than fishing line of course and this makes it a bit trickier to weave with since there's mroe friction between the hair and the thread, but then again that is probably a good thing for the end results. more friction will probably mean less shedding. :)

However, I think I'll keep to the fishing line for the lower back wefts  because it's alot easier to weave and then use the upholstery thread wefts towards the top of my head because they are a little thinner.

But who knows, maybe the thread will get easier to work with over time with some experience?

Another thing that might be interesting to know is that the hair I'm weaving with is 22" and the finished length of the weft is between 20" and 21" with a beard of somewhere around 1". The little bit of hair that is in the actual weft is a very short length so the length of the finished weft will really depend on what length you leave the beard more than anything else. It's alot easier to work with the weaving with a longer beard, but gradually as I've been experimenting I've left it shorter and shorter as I work it so now it's down to about 1". Before I got the hang of it I let the beards be longer, like maybe  2" or even 3" and then just cut them shorter but now I'ms tarting to get greedy about the hair and try to leave the beard as short as possible as I go instead. ;)


Oh and the idea of using a stool. I dunno where it came from, I'm a hardcore DIY kind of girl and tend to look at things from a "Hmm, what can I use instead"-point-of-view. Hence fishing line and stool. ;)

Jeepgirl, maybe it would help you to look at the diagram on the mhrw website as well? I printed it out and stared at it in trance for about half an hour while getting tangled up in hair and fishing line before I finally got it right. :)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JeepGirl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2007 at 1:43pm
I'm in such awwww of you....I've got some hair I want to use and if I can figure this technique out I use it. Need to watch your demo some more....guess I'm a little slow.....what in the world made you think of using your stool.....lol.....excellant idea chic!
Great demo also...thanks for doing it for us!
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Deliana what a excellent jobThumbs%20Up Funny thing is I have that same stool LOL. So now I want to try it as well. Thanks so much for the you tube tutorial . Ive been looking for a live instructional video for a while now. Thanks so much
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and i just ran out and bought fishing line! ok i'll try the thread
 
you dont know how much this has helped me. my customers are screaming out for russian hair and the company that i was going to order from  only has bulk so thanks again!
 
i'll post some pixs of my attempt to although i suspect it will not look anything like yours!
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So far I've just bent the fishingline around back and sequred it into place by sewing, but the next time I do this I'm using either buttonhole thread or weaving thread if I can find any instead of the fishing line, that way I could just slide the  thread onto a needle and just sew the end threads into the weave.
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i get it now! going home to try. thanks so much for sharing that.
 
the only thing i'm confused about is does the hair stay on the fishing line when your finished? like do you knot the ends of the fishing line?
 
or do you take the hairs off and they stay together?
 
 
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OK girls, I just finished a little video tutorial, the quality isnt' exceptional but I think you can see (and hear) pretty clearly what I am doing.  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-UTrGx6pso
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absoultely Deliana ! go for it i cant wait to see
 
the instructions on MHRW just gives me a headache!
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I'm glad I could inspire someone. :)
I got so inspired by this forum so I'm glad I can spread the joy ;)

Oh and Metalgirl, I'll join along with the choir, would you mind sending me the instructions too? It would be very interesting to read another description than just the one on the mhrw site, my emailaddy is missdeliana at gmail.com

If you wonder why I wrote at instead of @ it's because if I had typed in the entire email addy as it is then I would get tons of spam because the "spam senders" use scripts to search for email adresses typed out on websites and add them to their mailing lists, so I suggest the rest of you write your email addresses like that too, trust me, it helps. :)


Also, I'm been thinking about making my own tutorial on this subject with clear pictures of what is going on, I've never been good at understanding written instructions, I need to see it to properly get it. Anyone interested?
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Hey MetalGirl you probably wish you hadnt posted this by now but PLEASE can you email me a copy too my addy anastaciajohnson@eircom.net
 
Deliana kudos to you wow! i'm so inspired i'll actually order some russian hair and try this now
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Wow, thanks for all the comments and compliments!

Koffe - I don't mind at all. :)

Nursie - I would say that a 5" piece takes me about 20-30 minutes, I bet the speed will increase as my hands get more used to it tho. :)

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you are so super-cool!! can i ask what was the time involved? i definately salute you because i'd proably go insane in my attempts and end up tossing it all in the garbage!!
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Wow, that looks great!!!

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absolutely great job.....it looks like a pro job, you would never know it was your first time doing it!
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That is amazing! Genius. I hope u don't mind but i posted your link on BHM hair group.  Genius need to be shared i say. I can't wait to try this, tho i do't think my weft will be is pretty as yours. Yours looks better than some 'store bought' wefts i have. Kudos!
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that's really good... great job..Thumbs%20Up
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OMG Shocked  That is amazing.... I thought I was a serious outta the box thinker when it came to weaves.. But my goodness u got me BEAT by miles LOL

Great Job Thumbs%20Up
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wow - so inventive! that looks amazing - well done! i love how creative you are and that weft looks smashing -

looking forward to more experiments and to how the "pro's" do the beard, thanks so much for posting!

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Hey guys, new girl in the forum, been stalking a while, did  a short introduction in the "introduce yourself"-thread.

Anyway, I bought a couple of packs of bulk wawa thermal hair a couple of years ago and after reading this thread a while back I decided to experiment a little and make a weft of it, because I like installing wefts and making clip ons wayyyy more than I like strand-by-strand methods.

Overall I am very pleased with the results, considering it is my first attempt and I used _fishing line_ to weave it on since my only other option because there were no stores open at the time and I'm way too impatient for my own good. I used the instructions from the mhrw site that was linked to from this topic but honestly I'm not sure I properly understood them but nevertheless the results are good. If I tug on one strand of hair it is more likely to break than to fall out of the weave!

I do not own a weaving pole and I didn't feel that I want to buy one either because I'm not interested in doing this proffesionally so... Can you say DYI? An up-side-down stool worked just fine ;) But I think I'm going to borrow my fathers tool shed and make a couple of weaving poles anyway because quite frankly, it was alot of fun weaving the hair and  I was very impressed with the low "shedding level" of the finished thing, but next time I won't be usign fishing line ;)

It might look bulky on the pics but in real life when I compare to wefts that are machine made that I have bought in the past theese are about the same size, just slightly tighter, I think using a thinner line than the fishing line I used will result in an even thinner weft. Also after I took the pics I finished the weft by sewing it (by hand) just to secure it.

I feel however that there's more to be learnt here, like a good starting and ending knot. Also, you experiences weavers, how do you get the "short ends" so neatly on one side of the weft? When I try to do it they occasionally poke out into the front of the weft as well. Teach me oh great ones. ;)














- edited because I accidentally posted the same pic twice.



Edited by Deliana - January 17 2007 at 6:41am
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