Hi Kosar, I am not sure, but here is their web site. You might even be able to place an order, but I like looking at the hair sample strands of what the color is "suppose" to turn out like. Plus, it's nice to be able to talk to the sales clerk, if she is knowlegdable. Sometimes the clerks have lot of "hair experience" and sometimes they don't have a clue. Goodluck to ya.
Also, if you are going to try to maintain your haircolor, be sure to document what works and what doesn't and put together a "haircolor bag". That way when you need to do it, you are not searching for everything. Take care and let me know how it turns out.
okay....so I reread Claude's sticky....if you want to be a cooler dark brown, it says to get an ash dark brown color---use 75% of this color mixed with 25% of a dark brown with blue-based tones--his sticky says to mix with 20 Volume, but I am thinking since you want more deposit with no lift, to mix with 10 volume developer. For me I would mix one shade lighter than my desired color, so I would use medium brown ash with medium brown blue with 10 volume.....normally it is a 2:2 ratio, color:developer, but remember your color will be 1 3/4 ash brown to 1/4 blue brown with the developer....when in doubt do a test strand....either cut and tape the hair together and test or I do a little spot behind my ears....but my hair is long enough to do this and wrap it with either saran wrap or a foil ...it just takes a tad of this to do the test with...but still mix the appropriate amts......I would do permanent color too, but that is just me...
From reading claude's sticky, I gather that if one didn't want to be too ashy they could mix neutral and ash to a 75 % mixture and then a 25 % mixture of the blue based and so forth....I don't like too much ash, so that would be for me......you can always do several test strands to see which recipe you like best....
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the roots are fine, it's the surface of my hair that has that annoying, unnatural glow, especially in direct sunlight or florescent light... it's noticable immediately and i'm simply trying to make it natural shade...
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is the reddish color only at your root or thru the rest too? Hot roots need to cooled down with temp. and less strength of dev. vol.. But to red thru out the whole thing would prolly need the ash and blue.....something like half neutral dark brown and half dark ash brown with 10 percent blue based tone toner and 10 vlume developer....
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my natural hair color is dark brown and i guess i need to mix dark brown shade with blue/green toner to get rid of the reddish glow? i guess the sales clerk will know what should the ratio be, right?
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Once the color has been decided, don't use Grecian anymore.
Start with a demi or a semi color. Go to Sallys and use creme...I like it because it doesn't run. Try this mix....buy the color, some 10 volume developer, some gloves, a color application brush, jar of cholestral conditioner, some clarifying shampoo, shampoo for color treated hair, some conditioner for color treated hair and they have nice plastic bowls too there. The day before clarify with the shampoo...don't scratch your head....wash twice and the 2nd washing leave on 5 mins.....then lighly condition.....make sure your hair is dry when applying color....I like to lightly mist my hair with infusium leave in treatment for color treated hair...bc it is long and it helps equalize the porosity of my hair. Start out with a neutral or natural shade. Mix the tube of color with a tablespoon or two of conditioner (cholestral) mix well....don't cross contaminate the conditioner and such...lol....once mixed pour in a cap or two of developer and mix and immediately apply once developer is mixed.....Let stay on for at least 20 mins....so that it deposits.....Then rinse with cool water and lightly shampoo and condtion....if you like the color...don't wash for 48 hours....if you like the color next time try permanent haircolor..but it seems to me that Grecian washes out over time like a semi or demi.....
Oh and the hot roots....keep your room cold while coloring so that you are nice and cool...the lower volume may help with more deposit and less lift....if the grays don't hold the color we may need to discuss presoftening it next time......
Ask the Sally's lady for help and take your list with you.....Sometimes more knowledgable sales clerks work different shifts...call ahead and ask when would be the best time to shop bc you need someone a bit knowledgabe about coloring.....goodluck...
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and thanks so much for your replies... it's probably right what you're saying about warm undertones (i read a little bit about warm/cold undertones), but how do i cool my hair? i have no problem covering grey hair, but it's that ever present artificial reddish glow that pisses me off... heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!
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Hey, also, try using either 10 volume developer or use only a cap to a cap and a half of 20 vol. developer and the regular amt of color. You need no lift. You possibly have a hot head that is lifting the color beyond what you are trying to get. If you can cool your head before application, that would help too. If you need better amts. .....say use 1.25 color to .75 developer in ozs..
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You'd need to go to Sally's and get a color....like a demi-color...the shade of brown you want to be in a neutral, a bottle of the shade you want to be in ash, some blue toner and some 20 volume developer, a mixing bowl, a color brush, some gloves...etc...talk to the sales clerk......test strand...read claude's sticky....Now, remember 20 vol. developer lifts for the 1st 20 mins. and the color doesn't begin to deposit until after that....so it may take up to 40 minutes to deposit into your gray hair. Stubborn grays may need a little color with no developer rubbed on them before the actual color is applied---it acts as a pre-softener....or after applying color mixture, take a papertowel and gently wipe off the color on the grays and reapply again. Print out claude's sticky and study it to figure out your concoction/recipe for your desired outcome in order to overcome your hair issues. Goodluck...and remember test strand before you do anything permanent....just mix a touch of your recipe up and swap it on the strand test area. If you don't cut this hair off, you can wrap it in some saran wrap to keep it off the other hair while testing. Write down what you did, so if you like it, you have the recipe and visa versa. Goodluck.
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I'm a 37 year old man and I've been trying covering grey hair with hair color products, mostly Just for Men, Grecian etc. My problem is that every time I use it (regardless of the shade of the color), my hair always turns out with the same reddish glow!!! I feel frustrated because it is immediately noticed in public. My original natural color is dark brown and I have tried from lighter brown to real black shade. It is important to point out that I always follow the instructions very closely. What can I do to fix this? I heard that mixing blue or green base with brown 5-minute formulas that I usually use could help. I posted this same topic on man's hair sites, but didn't get much help, so I figured woman probably know more about this subject...
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