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    Posted: November 07 2006 at 1:32am
Oh susan w,I agree! I do not think being that thin is a good thing...but when I was a teen/early twenties I did,and my hair really suffered for it. (eventually one day I just got sick of not eating and decided life was too short to be miserable) I really notcied a difference in hair health after.
Actually now,I think I look better,cuz I have a more womanly shape.
Maybe one day there will be a magazine/modeling company who finally puts real women in it! So all these young girls arent like I was and think you have to starve to be pretty.
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I never heard the one about hairspray killing nutrients when applied to the roots of hair.  I'd be inclined to say that one's an urban legend too, since the nutrients that go to the root come from deeper within the body, so if by chance nutrients did get killed, they'd just be replaced (not that I believe they do get killed...I'd need to see some evidence or a believable scientific theory).  Again, I used hairspray on my bangs all through high school and didn't really see any damage whatsoever (yeah, I come from the 80s hair poofing generation!). 

I don't know if cutting hair stimulates new growth either.  I always heard that, but haven't seen any good evidence for that either.  I just assumed the trim made it look thicker, so that new growth would be more obvious because it would all look like it was growing each month. 

Julesyjul88, normal weight is beautiful!  Its silly that models are so thin, they don't have to be so sickly and starving looking to be beautiful, as they'd be more beautiful if they looked healthy.  I really wish the modeling industry would change that... I hear its going that way in europe, that in some places its forbidden for the models to get that thin.  Spain has made some rules about minimum weight on catwalk models.
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id have to agree chemicals cant be good if u can go natural all the way.:)
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 I think ANYTHING in excess is bad: too much dye,too much hair spray,too much whatever. The average person uses only a spritz or two of hairspray. Now,if you were using a whole bottle everyday,then yes,you may start losing your hair. And,it should probably NOT be sprayed directly to the scalp.
I dont see how the cutting your hair and aging faster thing holds any truth either??? Causing "new cell growth" is a good thing,as all cells die.In fact,products like Alpha hydroxy and retinol stimulate new cell growth that makes people look YOUNGER.
Cutting hair is vital to hair growth because you get split ends.If the split ends arent cut,then they break off.
The true causes of baldness is heredity. Even in women who have hormonal changes (too much testosterone) But that can be helped somewhat by using birth control pills.(the pill  maintains hormonal balance) Of course,men cant use the pill.
Secondary to heredity,is stress and vitamin deficientcies that can cause hair shedding/thining.
Dont forget crash dieting!!! I know this from personal exprience...When I started eating well again,my hair became thicker.So us as women gotta ask ourselves,"Is it better to be model thin and risk lossing our hair?" Or should we just be a normal weight and have healthy hair.
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interesting, thanks for your input.  Are there any books on this type of thing?  Recently my friends become a bit of a fearnut of balding.  He's basically stopped using hair styling prodeucts because of this "clogged pores" rumour.  I however, need hairstyling products or else my hair would look really messy, but of course I'd do without if it it was actually a cause ofr me losing my hair.  Id' rather have some hair, than none. 
 
Supposedly cutting your hair stimulate's new cell growth, which causes the cells to reproduce, hence causing you to age faster.  I don't think that has much to do with hair loss though, just a lil tidbit I heard and want to confirm.

Also another supposed fact my friends have told me to come across is that hairspray kills nutrients when applied to the roots of your hair, which contributes to hair loss.

So are there any really considerable truth to these and their ties with baldness? 


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I agree with susan W,hair dyes,perms,bleach,relaxers and the like cause WAAAY more damage to hair then gel or hairspray. And,if you had these supposedly clogged pores on your head,wouldnt it feel like pimples? A pimple is what a clogged pore/follicule is and if there isnt a pimple there,I dont see how it could cause hairloss. I have always used hairspray and just about evry woman I know does and their hair is fine.
I HAVE heard of ringworm causing hairloss (it's a fungus) but no hot scalp treatment is going to help that. You'd need an anti-fungal creme or shampoo.
In fact,anything with word "HOT" cant be good for your scalp,when I have read that some people exprience hairloss from excessive use of hot oil treatments cuz the hot oil burns the scalp.
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Yeah, I'm not a pro, but it sounds like bologna to me.  He may be believing what the ad says on the hot scalp treatment's packaging.  A regular shampoo should wash off any product such as that, and since I used gel and spray for years constantly in my high school days and never had any loss from that, I'd say any loss people are seeing is more likely natural balding that happens to be on someone who uses a lot of products.  Hair dye, bleach, straightening or perm chemicals are going to cause way more hairloss than constant gel or other goop use is going to.


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Putting too many products on the scalp can definitely contribute to scalp acne or scalp infections.

I can't see how a "hot scalp treatment" can really help more than, say, a clarifying shampoo, unless a hot scalp treatment uses some kind of suction device.

Sorry, couldn't help it. Wink

Best thing is to avoid putting products on the scalp period.

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I've heard today from a friend(his source is a hairstylist cousin) that hair products like gel and the like clog your scalps pore's.  Supposedly the hair follicle's can get clogged by the excess build up of styling products like gel in your scalp.  This causes the hairgrowth to stop and something called a hot scalp treatment is supposed to prevent and "cleanse" the scalp preventing the baldness from occuring.  Can anybody confirm the validity of this?

Also, if anybody has any hair related scientific proof to validate this to baldness would be much appreciated.  I would think perhaps there are too many factors to control the experiment.  What's a hairstylists opinions and your opinions on this?
 
I was also thinking that if this were true, then wouldn't the symptoms of baldness cease from a de-clogging of the pore's?  If so, this can explain a type of hair loss, but as for genetic hair loss it does not since these occur in patterns.  Any input would be appreciated.
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