QuoteReplyTopic: Sodium Hydroxide Posted: August 15 2007 at 9:39am
I have a really big need and dont know if anyone has an answer, My stylist is professional but no longer in a salon because she changed professions. She has been using the japanese istraight on my hair for the past year and a half, she recently ran out of product and then found that her contact was no longer good. Does anyone know where to get this product? She doesnt have the time to get out and look for it really so I am trying myself so I can get my straight hair again!!!! :(
If I cant find Istraight can she use a different thermo product on me? and where do you get that?
Well, I have no idea.. but I heard someone say that it is used on african american hair? My mom tried one made for ethnic people a while ago, I was like 10 years old and I had the worst frizziest hair ever and it made it really bad and I had it to get it chopped really short.
I succesfully used an american relaxer from walmart a few years back. At that time I was regularly dying my plain brown hair dark brown and once had carmel highlights and I love dhow it made my hair so much straighter. But no, I still had to use a straightener.
I just recently used that same product last week and it totally fried the bottom layer of my hair. The reason because, about 8 months back I tried bleaching the bottom layer of my hair blonde, (you know, the whole layered blonde and brown look) and it totally damaged my hair. I thought 8 months would of been long enough since I had only died my hair 3 times since than (my regular dark brown) but now my hair is in it's worst condition ever and... once I get the money I'm going in to get it chopped, which is depressing for me... I've been wanting to grow it out a little past my breasts, while using extensions in the mean time... so it'll put another 2 year hold on my length...
final advice... if you want your hair straight... go to a pro, get magic straight, jap perm, or whatever they offer... 800, maybe even as much as 1500 may sound a lot but if I had 800 dollars I would definately pay that to get my hair back that i once had.
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Hi tom, sorry I took so long to answer. I was out of town and without a computer. I really can't make any recommendations on the time you should leave the thio treatment on your hair, because I'm not a professional stylist and wouldn't want to give you the wrong advice.
Everyone's hair is different, so even someone with hair exactly like yours might take longer or less time to process.
Just so you know, you should have some curl left with the thio treatment, so it sounds like your stylist is doing it right. You should discuss with your stylist if it might be a good idea to process the hair an additional 5 minutes (maybe even 10). For someone with hair that curly you might need some more time. Your hair should look pretty straight when wet. You know hair is done processing when you pull a small section and it doesn't spring back. Hope that helps.
If you are using a product such as Xtenso, and want to have TR done (or the other way around), that is fine, because they are both Thio based and are compatible.
I'm a guy with very curly Napoleon Dynamite hair. How long would you recommend I leave a thio product on my hair. Right now, my stylist leaves on for about 15-20 minutes. It makes my hair 100x more manageable but I still get a decent curl in some spots. Would you recommend I leave the thio product on perhaps twice as long?
Also, what happens if one tries to get their hair TR'd using a product such as Xtenso, which is not for TR? Just curious.
I just looked at their pictures again. Yeah, my hair was deft. way more frizzie than theirs. It would take a ton of products to make my curls look half as smooth as my niece (the one in the first picture, with the lighter hair). I'm telling you, I was a frizz ball.
I wish I had a picture, (but I would never let anyone take one, unless my hair was perfectly blowed dry lol).
Thank God for Rusk, I don't know what I would do without it. By the way I still use Rusk. I just recently started using the Xtenso. I only use the Xtenso on the new growth around my frontal hairline. It works just fine, but I have never done my entire head with it.
The reason why I use the Xtenso in front is because, you can save whatever is left over. So you can just use a little and save the rest. With the Rusk, one you open the tub, the product must be used within 48 hours. So I would have to waste an entire container just to do my hairline. So I use the Xtenso instead. And every 4 to 5 months I use the Rusk to do the all over root touch up.
Hope that helps.
Edited by Sharyg11 - December 12 2006 at 5:08pm
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Thanks, I don't mean to brag but they are cute LOL!
And yeap! my hair looked like theirs before relaxing. It was actually as curly as the first one, but as frizzie (well, actually more frizzie) as the second one.
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I found my picture at the Folica.com website. The customer reviews for the Sedu 1 1/14 inch iron. At the bottom of the page click page 6 and you will find my picture. The before picture is what my curly hair looks like now (after being relaxed with the Rusk radical anticurl). Before it was a frizzie, super curly nightmare. If you click on page 3 you will see pictures of my nieces. Their hair is of course not relaxed but I do flat iron it once in a while. My hair is as curly as the first picture, but as frizzie (actually more frizzie)as the second picture. Before the thio my hair looked like I stuck my wet finger in a socket. Thank God for Rusk!
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No, you can not use heat with Xtenso. The only thios you can use heat with are the ones formulated for TR. I had TR done as I explained above and was not happy at all. I now use the Rusk Radical Anticurl or Xtenso and I am super happy. I wouldn't switch to anything else. Works great, my hair is shiny, smooth and frizz free, and it works great on the regrowth. And since is so cheap, I buy it, and have my friend who owns a salon apply it for me anytime I need to touch up my hair line, which is the only part where the re-growth is really noticesable. The rest of my head only needs to be touched up every 4 months or so.
I'm not looking to switch to a lye relaxer. I hate those things. You must be confusing me with hanna. She was the one inquiring about Sodium hydroxide. I wouldn't let that stuff near my hair. I'm a straight thio girl. I haven't figured out how to post a pic, but I posted a picture of my hair at Folica.com on 3/29/06. You can take a look at it if you want. Is under the reviews for the Sedu flat iron and is under my nickname (Shary). The only difference is my hair is much longer now, but it is still as straight and shiny.
I have tried a lot of relaxers, but not those. In the past I used the kiddie, or store box type relaxers, but never found one that made curly hair better. I switched to thio, and had trouble with the stronger brands. I settled on easystraight, because it is the best relaxer for not reverting, and it does the least amount of damage. Easystraight should not overlap other relaxers, but is okay to overlap easystraight relaxer on easystraight relaxed hair. Curly hair is still curly, and needs to be styled, but it will stat straight forever.
Heated thio gets hair straighter, is the Xtenso a heated thio?
Sodium hydroxide may work for you, try to get your stylist to do a test section for you to make sure your hair does not burn. Make sure the stylist only does the new growth, and I have to tell you that I am more than a little scared about even comming close to the previously relaxed hair with lye.
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Yeah I agree with you, lye is the best choice for african american hair. When you said the hair stayed straight I thought you meant regular curly hair. That's where I got confused.
In reference to the smoothing with thio, the product should never touch your scalp, or be smooth against your scalp. That's why not all stilysts can perform the service, or not everyone can do it at home. There is alot of info that needs to be learned (believe me I know!) But I'm glad the easy straight works for you. I guess is one of those freak products that doesn't work for most people, but will work wonders for a few. I personally never tried it, but have read alot ot bad reviews and seen pictures of serious damage. Then again, many people also don't like Rusk anticurl and I love it. So I guess it depends on the individual, as well as their avility to apply the product.
Thanks for sharing the info with me. I'll try to post a picture as soon as I get a chance.
Much love, Shary
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Hummm... do you really think i should try xtenso again?
i dont know i had a lot of people telling me that sodium hidroxyde was stronger to get those curls out, by the way i used the normal xtenso not the cera-thermic one.
I used lye relaxers a few times, with much anxiety. They worked great on African hair, and did nothing to relax soft curly/wavy blonde hair.
My opinion is that lye {applied by an expert!} is best for strong African type hair textures. I think it does little for other hair types.
The new thios seem to be the best. I have used easystraight for over a year, and I used to go from one relaxer to another.
Thanks for the info about smoothing, I have used other thios that told me to smooth, and I ended up bald at the root, burned on my scalp, and with a lot of damage.
I'm no expert, but I think you can only post a pic if you start a new thread/topic. Pics help sooooo much!
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