QuoteReplyTopic: why do african americans call straight hair good Posted: February 01 2007 at 6:25pm
Well, I agree with Davo....The only way to get rid of something is to confront it straight up and make everyone see that it's a bad thing. Right now with alot of young black people saying the word n**** all the time, white people are shaking their heads at us and alot of them are thinking, "Look at these black people bringing themselves down, we don't even need to do it ourselves anymore. Sweet!"
If black people stopped using the word altogether, I don't think white people would bring it back like they did in old slavery times, because now, they KNOW that they will get straight f**ked up, so they wouldn't go back to saying it, and if we stopped saying it as well, they would no longer have that mental hold over us when it comes to the N word.
And the mental control they have is apparent right now, because if a white person was to call one of us a n**** or a n***** right now, we'd get all bent out of shape and probly f**k them up....So in that aspect, they still have some control over us...Yea, they got their ass kicked, but they would still technically be "controlling" our actions like they did back in the day, by getting a certain response from us and perpetuating the stereotype of..."the angry black man". I hope ya'll get what I'm trying to say......
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i tink dat wud make it worse^..if u made da word seem as tho it were sumthin so terrible even black ppl wudnt use it den crackers wud take advantage and use da word purposely..n black folks wud be even MORE hostile towards white ppl..i dun tink dats an effective solution^
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My opinion on the n word is why say it at all. A lot of the time when I'm about to say it I try to catch myself. But still the question is why. A lot of people think that if we all use it (excluding white people) that it will make the word weaker and weaker therefore it would seem meaningless like any other word. But that's not the case. If a white person were to say the n word to you right now, you'll be insulted. That makes you think that the word is never going to be made into something weaker than what it really is. If you look up the history of it the word is actually meant for an ignorant, or stupid person. During slavery times white people thought that we were all stupid so that was the word that they chose to use. Basically all I'm saying is if we all just stop using the word, not as a race, but everyone in the world together the word will become weak. Then we wouldn't have to worry about any other race insulting us with it because they will see that not even black people dare use the word, so they shouldn't either.
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yeye i see wut u sayin still..i didnt mean dat sayin da word makes u more black cuz im 100% 4 breakin da mold..im one of those ppl dat get pissed wen u see black folks hatin on a black dude for hangin wit white folks..u noe?..wut i mean was..u see now like all dem white guyz tryna get themselves situated in da black community..u see white guyz hangin wit black ppl..tryna..i dunno..BE black..i mean i noe dat sounds like a copntradiction cuz of wa i said bout da black dude chillin wit white ppl..buh u get wut im sayin..i mean EVERY1 copyin blackppl noe..i mean wit clothes..music..whos settin trends rite now?..whos on da spotlite?..black folks..so wut i mean was dat even tho itz demeaning to call a black dude n****, by not lettin a white dude say it u remindin him bout da ish dat happened all those years back..does dat make it clearer?..cuz after readin ^..im 100% behind u
Yo Don, I get what you're sayin about not forgetting the past, and
thats true, it is important to remember history and all that. What I
don't agree with is using the word though...I mean, to each man their
own...But personally, I stopped using the word after I really sat down
and thought about the situation. Some black people who use it say that
saying ni**a instead of nigg*r, somehow changes the word and makes it
into a positive thing, instead of the negative way it used to be said.
But then I have to ask this question.....
Why get mad if a white person was to say, "What's up my ni**a?" in the
same exact way a black person would say it to you? It's a positive word now, right? You could say
they're trying to "be black" (which is another statement I disagree
with, because I'm clearly black and I don't say the word...Does not
saying the word somehow make me less black? I don't think so. It's not
possible to try to "be" a different race, unless you're changing your
skin color and forgetting your culture.) And also,
If ni**a is now a positive, endearing term, then why do some black
people use
it when insulting other blacks?
Example: "Look at that bitch ass ni**a over there", Black Female to one
of her friends: "This broke ass ni**a got no job", etc etc.
In these cases, Why couldn't the first person just be a bitch ass
trick, or the second guy be a
broke ass dude?? I jus think that there's a certain hypocrisy when it
comes to usage of the word within the black community. When white
people say it, everyone is up in arms, but when black people say it,
even in a negative way like I mentioned above, It's all good. That's
why
I stopped using it altogether.
And sorry for writing an essay, but this is a topic I'm really
passionate about, and I'll be glad to hear anyone's remarks or thoughts
on this topic as well. If ya'll think is gonna turn into a big topic,
we can move it to a diff board or wuteva. Let's just keep it civilized
and constructive
Edited by WavePool - February 01 2007 at 10:48am
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i say da n word if im mad or if im jokin..i ain one of doe n****z(joking!) dat use da word commonly..i tink its aight 4 blck ppl 2 use da word..i mean i noe it refers 2 slave dayz buh these days white ppl is tryna b black...dun yall tink itz a gud way 2 remind dem bout slavery..i see now ppl is walkin around n sh*t tryna forget wa happened..buh u cant erase history..sum say it rong 2 call black folks n**** even if u black buh i dun mind..if i hear a hite boy callin sum1 n**** u dun noe itz a scrap
All ya'll on this post are getting fired up and put into deep thought about "good hair".
But I've got a question for everyone...Does anyone here use the word n****? Why or why not? And if you do, I'm interested in hearing why you choose to say it.
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yo this has to be the greatest post ever.....three-six-oh that link u provided was the sh*t.....good looks bro....I even sent that to my professor whose black.
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I see before I got a chance to defend myself everyone hit points that I would have definately posted. To be honest I wasn't saying that staright hair was better, I was answering the question in the form that it was originally presented. If you ask why people like staright hair,I'll tell you why. I wasn't trying to put into words the way I felt. Because personally I could care less about straight hair and how people perceive it to be better than mine. Good hair to me is hair that its not dry and flaky. Bad hair is hair that is dry and flaky.
Edited by Davo - January 31 2007 at 7:21pm
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Couple hundred years later "good hair" is the accepted term. What you guys are saying is rite but be careful. But sometimes good hair could just meanin your opinion not bad. Basically im just sayin that while that racism is ingrained deeply into our society be careful not to prejudge people who use that phrase. It could just be what it is "you have NICE hair" not "your hair looks kinda like the slave master's and i hate my hair for not being yours and by extension i hate myself for being black".
chill. Dont be starting witch-hunts over it.
One interesting thing theres a whole debate over perms rite. Straight hair isnt "black" and many women (and men) are put down for perming thier hair. Many men use kits(perms) to wave their hair. And since my hair is wavy (looks like i kitted) i have come under fire for apparently hating my roots. To me thats taking it too far. What yall think?
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n if it comez 2 a point where black folks is hatin on dere own hair wantin soft white hair..2 get waves or 2 improve dey sh*t den f**k it ill stop wavin...if like 36oh says itz dividin r ppl den f**k it..waves is nun den..
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datz tru still..buh i dun tink it has DAT much 2 do wit slavery..i mean obviously itz a factor buh i tink wen ppl say u have dat nice hair dey umean u got dat hair datz easier 2 manage..more controllable..n i tink dis term is only significant with wavey hair..cuz like davo said if u got a fro den naps mite be the "gud" hair..in dat specific situation..
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^^^ Yea often times they raped black women and kept the light-skinned one's inside the house and the dark-skinned outside in the cold/heat.
Exactly if your hair is healthy your good to go. But as for why many African-Americans think straight hair is better all ties into slavery. To me bad hair is when you just dont give a fuc* about your hair, not brushing, combing, washing or whatever. Weather your ethnicity thats just disgusting.
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Black people call straight hair good hair because it looks nicer than tangled hair or very curly hair which we all have. For example, when people see straight hair they're like you have good hair. When it's wavey like almost everyone on here, they said you got that good hair it's all nice and wavey. But when you have tight curly hair (nappy), no one is fallin' in love with it sayin' how nice your hair looks with no shape or pattern or telling you that it looks great. The only time that tight curly hair looks good is when it's in afro form and very well shaped up.
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