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    Posted: July 20 2007 at 11:53pm
Its better to be licensed. The reason being is that there is more to extensions than just putting them in. Sometimes you might have to color the clients hair, especially if they did an at home color job. And more importantly you have to know how to use a razor, shears for slide cutting, and thinning shears for further blending.
 
The two extension methods you mentioned required that you have a license partly due to the reasons mentioned above.
 
I think in my state virginia you are allowed to braid hair w/o a license. BUT on many occasions shears or other "cosmetology tools" are used in one way or another to give the style a professional look.
 
The extensions are easy to do once you get the hang of it but there is alot of skill and experience involved in giving those final touches so that the extensions look like they belong on that person's head.
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IF you are a booth renter - you have to pay for your own insurance- we provide insurance in my salon for everyone- and they all pay a small and i mean small portion-
if you are a comission stylist, then yes you are covered.
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You also need to consider getting insurance if you are plannin g on working on people other than friends and family.
God forbid you burn someone doing fusion or they have an allergic reaction to glue and sue you!

Working under a licensed salon, you are usually covered under their insurance.
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there are people working in a salon doing extensions. they get around it by what u called loopholes and work "under" a licensed stylist. is it legal? is it ethical? it all boils down to ones own convictions.

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From my understanding of my phone call with the board the highlighted paragraphs cover other extension methods..

Quote 7316.  (a) The practice of barbering is all or any combination of
the following practices:
   (1) Shaving or trimming the beard or cutting the hair.
   (2) Giving facial and scalp massages or treatments with oils,
creams, lotions, or other preparations either by hand or mechanical
appliances.
   (3) Singeing, shampooing, arranging, dressing, curling, waving,
chemical waving, hair relaxing, or dyeing the hair or applying hair
tonics.
   (4) Applying cosmetic preparations, antiseptics, powders, oils,
clays or lotions to scalp, face, or neck.
   (5) Hairstyling of all textures of hair by standard methods which
are current at the time of the hairstyling.
   (b) The practice of cosmetology is all or any combination of the
following practices:
   (1) Arranging, dressing, curling, waving, machineless permanent
waving, permanent waving, cleansing, cutting, shampooing, relaxing,
singeing, bleaching, tinting, coloring, straightening, dyeing,
applying hair tonics to, beautifying, or otherwise treating by any
means, the hair of any person.
But again this has NEVER stopped anyone from doing extensions on the side out of their home.. I think this becomes an issue if you wanted to do extensions in a salon setting..


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Well, thats sort of the point  my lawyer made- it doesn't specify....It specifically addresses braiding, but no other form of extension, and as you point out braiding is not exactly the same thing... although is does mention "a service that results in tension on strand or roots" which both have in common..... 

On a side note: here is an article the discusses how the ancient Egyptians used beeswax to do fusion extensions:

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:0z4YqscVywQJ:www.egyptstudy.org/ostracon/archives/FletcherSummer2002.pdf+ancient+hair+adornment+beeswax&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

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Originally posted by saucyblossom saucyblossom wrote:

I guess it depends on who you talk to ... when I called they didn't really know what I was talking about. I ask my attorney and she look at it and said ," It doesn't specifically exclude those methods..therefore they are legal"  I don't know , I just do it for the fun of it... But I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. haha
Perhaps.. But another lady from the HE101 forum called the Calif board too and got pretty much the same answer I did. I can't see how fusion or other non-braided forms of hair extensions could be lumped into the "natural hair braiding" category. There's no braiding involved in any of these techniques..
 
Of course we all know there are LOTS of unlicensed folks out there installing extensions and performing cosmetology services of all types from their homes.. This includes braiders and weavers working out of their homes who perform services which are considered cosmetology services.. I imagine it's tougher for the board to regulate home extensionists working from their homes -- unless of course someone reports them to the board..
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I guess it depends on who you talk to ... when I called they didn't really know what I was talking about. I ask my attorney and she look at it and said ," It doesn't specifically exclude those methods..therefore they are legal"  I don't know , I just do it for the fun of it... But I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. haha
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Thanks for that info Saucy!

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Originally posted by saucyblossom saucyblossom wrote:

CALIFORNIA CODES
BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS CODE
SECTION 7316-7320.5
 
(d) The practice of barbering and the practice of cosmetology do
not include any of the following:
   (1) The mere sale, fitting, or styling of wigs or hairpieces.
   (2) Natural hair braiding. Natural hair braiding is a service that
results in tension on hair strands or roots by twisting, wrapping,
weaving, extending, locking, or braiding by hand or mechanical
device, provided that the service does not include haircutting or the
application of dyes, reactive chemicals, or other preparations to
alter the color of the hair or to straighten, curl, or alter the
structure of the hair.
 
I read this several times, I believe it says that hair exentsion in ANY form is not regulated, as it refers to "extending" and "locking". by hand or mechanical device. It excludes cutting or coloring, as those asre defined as services that fall into the "practice of cosmotology"
 
So you can do extensions, but not cut or color without a license.
Massage falls into this same catagory. There is not (and never will be) a state "certificate" or license for massage in California, although many cities or counties require a massage therapist to register and have a business license.


Actually if you call the California board, they will confirm that for some reason any extension method which is not done using braids (including fusion, microrings, and shrinkies extensions methods) are not included in this exception in the law. (I called them because I wanted to understand this for my own personal edification, AND I also asked my stylist who is a former cosmetology instructor) This exception in the law specifically covers ONLY braiding, weaving and the application & styling of wigs & hair pieces.. ALL other forms of extensions apparently requires a cosmetology license because they are not considered a form of "natural hair braiding"..


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I looked up the Califonia code on this on, which can be found at
if you want to read the whole thing...
 
 
but the applicable part is here;
CALIFORNIA CODES
BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS CODE
SECTION 7316-7320.5
 
(d) The practice of barbering and the practice of cosmetology do
not include any of the following:
   (1) The mere sale, fitting, or styling of wigs or hairpieces.
   (2) Natural hair braiding. Natural hair braiding is a service that
results in tension on hair strands or roots by twisting, wrapping,
weaving, extending, locking, or braiding by hand or mechanical
device, provided that the service does not include haircutting or the
application of dyes, reactive chemicals, or other preparations to
alter the color of the hair or to straighten, curl, or alter the
structure of the hair.
 
I read this several times, I believe it says that hair exentsion in ANY form is not regulated, as it refers to "extending" and "locking". by hand or mechanical device. It excludes cutting or coloring, as those asre defined as services that fall into the "practice of cosmotology"
 
So you can do extensions, but not cut or color without a license.
Massage falls into this same catagory. There is not (and never will be) a state "certificate" or license for massage in California, although many cities or counties require a massage therapist to register and have a business license.
 
 
 
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and if you really want to be technical- as what diva has said is also true in Washington state, oregon and arizona.
i have friends who are licensed in each state- there was once a debate about this and so they checked, to do extensions LEGALLY(with the loop hole)  in those states, you can only do braiding!
 
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co-signing with metalgirl. Most companies that offer classes only offer to licensed cosmotologists

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Many hair extensions companies will not let you attend class until they check your license.  I think GL requires a license, and when I talked to Socap at the last hair show, they said that they only sell to licensed people. 
 
There is stuff all over the Internet that anyone can buy though.
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Originally posted by Poose Poose wrote:

Yes, you need to be licensed in the United States.


It varies state-by-state since licesning laws for everything from liquor to buisnesses, to massage therapy and everything between fall under state juristiction.

Look up your local laws on your states website to be certain. It would be a same to go through the brand class and not be able to do them.
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You must be licensed in NY to do anything to hair and charge for it. I am almost done with my schooling :)
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Dunno about your state, but in California you would need to be licensed to do this method.. There's a "loophole" (for lack of a better way to say it) in our regs that allows an exception for braiding/weaving methods, but apparently all other methods of applying extensions must be performed by a licensed stylist.. You might wanna check your own state's cosmetology board for specifics..

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Yes, you need to be licensed in the United States.
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For any of these brand name extensions, you typically have to take their class if you want to buy their supplies.

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