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    Posted: May 19 2007 at 8:53pm
Originally posted by MSHONEY MSHONEY wrote:

Here is the search for skin wefts. Once you've read these you should have a pretty good understanding of them. They all will  look natural as long as you have a good color and texture match. Except for the skin wefts, the others I've stated actually cover the exposed area. http://talk.hairboutique.com//search_results_posts.asp?SearchID=20070519180505&KW=SKIN+WEFTS

I don't know of anything that attaches to the scalp that gets favorable reviews. Besides, I think that your sclps natural oils would cause them to detach too soon.


wOOt, thanks for that search.  for some reason when i did mine, i didnt get the same results Embarrassed

I still don't think skin wefts would look undetectable completely exposed to view.  They are definitely at the top of my list of choices though, if I do start trying out extensions.  Because I have such a huge thinned area at my crown (which extends down the back of my head too, ugh) I'm starting to think I just might not have enough hair there for extensions.  I hadn't looked at my head there for awhile, and its definitely worse now than in those pics i posted.. =/  especially since they had to remove some hair from the scalp biopsy.

The reason I was wondering if skin wefts could attach directly to the scalp is I also have been looking a lot at bonded hairpieces.  Hairpieces have a lace or mono mesh base and bond directly to the scalp to look like hair growing out of scalp..  so I thought if since the skin weft is hair attached to similar mesh that  it might be nice if it could be applied the same way as an actual bonded hair piece, and attached to areas where theres too much scalp to help fill in the gaps.

If its attached to hair.. then someone like me who has too much scalp showing will still show that same amt of scalp.  it will just make the hair look thicker.

It could be a totally bad idea.  but I dunno.  If I could actually find some skin wefts in my color (i am having a heck of a time finding any kind of wefts in a medium NOT reddish brown) maybe I will do some experimentation and see what I can come up with.

My first step right now is I want to make some clips-ins for some FAST relief to help give me a couple stying options.  But I just cant find my color..


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Here is the search for skin wefts. Once you've read these you should have a pretty good understanding of them. They all will  look natural as long as you have a good color and texture match. Except for the skin wefts, the others I've stated actually cover the exposed area. http://talk.hairboutique.com//search_results_posts.asp?SearchID=20070519180505&KW=SKIN+WEFTS

I don't know of anything that attaches to the scalp that gets favorable reviews. Besides, I think that your sclps natural oils would cause them to detach too soon.
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Originally posted by MSHONEY MSHONEY wrote:

Lace fronts, net weaves, closures and skin wefts are probably your best options for covering thinning hair.


Can anyone point me in the direction of more info about skin wefts (or seamless wefts, i think they are the same thing?) 
I'd love to find some tutorials about it like the ones on doctoredlocks.com but it doesnt have skin wefts on there..

I guess I'm mainly wondering,  is this something that can be worn on an exposed area on top and look natural? or will it always have to be covered by a layer of hair?   What I've found so far shows its application as being pressed against hair..    I wonder why it cant be bonded to the scalp itself?     I know these are probably all really newb questions,  thanks ahead of time for any help  Smile
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Handle your business girl. I agree, make them test for everything and keep on them until they find it. You know your body and you know when somethings wrong even when the tests show otherwise. I was experiencing the symptoms of PCOS for years and ALL my hormone levels, thyroid everything was normal but I KNEW something was wrong. Sometimes it can be your pituatary gland or hypothalumus that's causing problems you may want those checked too.

I don't want us to start diagnosing you, giving you diseases that you don't have either. Sometimes women just lose their hair like men do. We don't suffer from male pattern baldness in high numbers like men do but it does happen. Our hair can just thin out or we go bald in areas just because we're getting older.

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Originally posted by BunnyWabbit BunnyWabbit wrote:

have you had your thyroid checked??

yep!  Results were "normal" there too, but I don't think I've had ALL the tests for that done that can be done.  Like I said, I cannot wait until I see this new endocrinologist next month.  I don't care if my arm looks like a pin cushion,   I just want them to keep testing until something turns up.

Originally posted by BunnyWabbit BunnyWabbit wrote:

If your fagtigue is limiting your life, making you 'strategize' as I put it, and your local docs aren't helping, i HIGHLY reccemend going to Mayo for diagnoistic purposes, feel free to PM me any time if you'd like to ask questions about my experiences. 


Hey, thanks Smile    My fatigue has definitely limited my life.. I can only describe my state over the past 6-8 months as barely functioning.  I had not thought of MayoClinic, but that's an interesting idea.  And I may just PM you about it too!

Originally posted by BunnyWabbit BunnyWabbit wrote:

It looks like the rest of your hair is pretty thick still am I correct? I think for camoflaging the thinning crown area, skin wefts or with some research a better closure would be your best options.


the rest of my hair is OK enough.  Its not the thickest in the world, but i'd say most if not all of my loss is all in the top area.   I'm currently digging around for info on skin wefts,  they sound intriguing but I try not to get excited Wink    I'm up too late as well,  its amazing how time flies when I'm trying to research all this stuff!


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have you had your thyroid checked?? If you hae bad fatigue, and hair loss like that its a DEFINATE possiblity. I totaly get what you're going through, I just spend a week at Mayo Clinic getting a diagnoisis for my issues with fatgiue (and a very long list of other things, including hair loss). Luckily I didn't need a biopsy of my scalp, the derm was litterally pulling my hair out and I barely felt it and he was hardly trying - its called telogen effluvium and luckily its temporary, but I understand your over all frustration. If your fagtigue is limiting your life, making you 'strategize' as I put it, and your local docs aren't helping, i HIGHLY reccemend going to Mayo for diagnoistic purposes, feel free to PM me any time if you'd like to ask questions about my experiences.  (oh and NOTHING i've been diagnoised with has ever come out in blood work either, it can be really frustrating) My main pice of advice about any sort of fatigue symptoms is keep a journal of them - if you've eaten recently, if it happened just after standing, just after laying down, what time of day, etc etc, every detail you can squeeze in. It can really help narrow thigs down

on to the hair. The crown is definately the trickiest part. I can see what you're talking about in the photos. It looks like the rest of your hair is pretty thick still am I correct? I think for camoflaging the thinning crown area, skin wefts or with some research a better closure would be your best options. I'll dig around some sites I have book marked for you. I'll post them up tomarrow as its sorta late for me.
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Originally posted by MSHONEY MSHONEY wrote:

 I love fusion( hot fusion w/keratin) but I'm not sure that or cold fusion is what you want. My former fusionist has very thin hair on top in the same area as yours and you see EVERY SINGLE ATTACHMENT, not a good look.


doh.  Yeah, that sounds like something I wouldn't want =)

You can see my hair here http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u140/mistressdistress/

Those are from a few months ago, and the lighting makes my hair look darker (and shinier) than it is,  AND it doesn't have my new scalp biopsy bald spot.. but you get the idea. Embarrassed

Originally posted by MSHONEY MSHONEY wrote:

 
 Has your doctor tested your hormone levels? That can cause the alopecia condition you described. PCOS ( HORMONES AGAIN) can also cause weird things to happen to your hair. Your testosterone level can be too high and you may need meds to lower it or you may need progesterone, testosterone or estrogen to balance them again. It can happen at almost any age.


Yeah I think I've had tests for testosterone and estrogen levels..   The most frustrating thing is that tests always come out 'normal' and meanwhile I'm still losing hair and am have awful AWFUL fatigue.  I am going to see a new doc next month (takes FOREVER to get appts with doctors too!) and I am just going to make him do every test under the sun whether he likes it or not.  I've been losing hair since my very early 20's (i'm 30 now) so theres definitely something not right. 



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 I love fusion( hot fusion w/keratin) but I'm not sure that or cold fusion is what you want. My former fusionist has very thin hair on top in the same area as yours and you see EVERY SINGLE ATTACHMENT, not a good look. Lace fronts, net weaves, closures and skin wefts are probably your best options for covering thinning hair.
 Has your doctor tested your hormone levels? That can cause the alopecia condition you described. PCOS ( HORMONES AGAIN) can also cause weird things to happen to your hair. Your testosterone level can be too high and you may need meds to lower it or you may need progesterone, testosterone or estrogen to balance them again. It can happen at almost any age.
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Originally posted by BunnyWabbit BunnyWabbit wrote:

Have you been to a dermatologist for a consult about your hair loss? 


Yeah, I've had bloodwork done, and just got a scalp biopsy (and a nice bald spot from it!).  So far nothing is conclusive with the bloodwork and I havn't gotten the results from the biopsy.  Chances are its androgenetic alopecia..  though no other women in my family have ever had this problem.

I never really considered extensions before because I have heard that they can damage your hair.  I realize the top is probably more fragile than the rest..   but I came across a description of the cold fusion extensions and wondered about those.  I also figured since I don't know much about extensions, maybe there are methods that I don't know about that are undetectable and gentle to hair and that I could do myself (dreaming, I know!)

I've considered cyberhair micropoint..  I havn't gone to a consultation anywhere for those, but I've read about them here and there.  They sound good because theyre lightweight and supposedly very natural looking,  bUT I've also read theyre very costly (money is definitely an issue for me), and you have to keep going back to get them done because they fall out/grow out.

I'm at a point where I feel i have to do SOMEthing, but I really don't know what!



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Originally posted by BunnyWabbit BunnyWabbit wrote:

If your issue is prmarily with the crown area, have you ever heard of a closure piece? here is an example http://www.lfhair.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=16210


I've seen that piece (or something like it) on another site, but didn't know what its called or how it gets attached. 

I have tried http://www.humanhairpieces.com/PRODUCTS/251H.html
and something like http://www.humanhairpieces.com/PRODUCTS/182H.html

But every time I order something like those they turn out to be so FULL of hair its ridiculous.   I don't have any experience with different extension methods.  All I've tried is things that clip on and nothing so far looks natural at all.

I am considering ordering a custom piece through Hair Direct..   but I don't think theres a way to make a piece (that uses clips and is worn overtop of hair) that looks like hair growing out of skin.   So, even if I do get something through them, I doubt I will feel comfortable 'parting' the hair of the piece.

I just wish there was a way to add hair to my thinning part and crown without actually having to wear a THING on top of my existing hair.  I would sit all day and glue hair strand by strand to my head if that was possible! Confused

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Very true Nusie - i can't belive I forgot about that considering I have hair loss! Confused

Have you been to a dermatologist for a consult about your hair loss? If you haven't I'd definately reccemend it so you know exactly what is causing it, so you can either treat it, or go forward wth extensions safely.
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my first thought would be closure piece (some call it a 'topper' and i've even heard them called 'wiglets')

another thing to consider is that thinning hair means the hair comes loose at the root easily, adding weight (even just a little) with extensions attached to your hair is not really the best thing to do to keep what hair you have on your head

 

lotta talkin 'bout hair n other stuff: http://www.diyextensions.net/
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If your issue is prmarily with the crown area, have you ever heard of a closure piece? here is an example http://www.lfhair.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=16210

(please note that I don't know anything about this particular product or site, I just did a google search to show you an example)


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I have a question about extensions for hairloss..

I have been dealing with losing my hair for a number of years now.  Most of the loss is on top, at the center part, and at the crown.  I still have hair.. and its kind of long (18")  but because its thin on top I can't really do much with it.  I know I can wear things underneath my hair to make it fuller,  but that wouldn't help fill in the thinning areas on top that show too much scalp.

So my question is,  is there any kind of extension method that can be applied to an area like a center part that would look natural and be kind to existing hair?  I recently came across some articles about hot or cold fusion being more natural looking and gentle to hair..  but I'm not really sure exactly what's involved in that and couldn't find any information on how to do it yourself.

I'm defintiely looking for something that I can learn how to do myself,  and that would look good on an exposed area like the top part or crown.  Any ideas?  or am i just hoping for something that doesn't exist?
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