Navy Question

When I was in the military with very long hair, I could secure it in less time than it takes most men to shave (which is requred in the US military.) Potatoes, your sister can learn to put her long hair up very quickly if she wants to keep it badly enough. (Is she in already? What did she decide to do?)

For the record, I would have joined anyway even if I had had to cut my hair. I did not have to, so why should I? Long hair actually ended up being a lot easier to deal with than my friends` hair. They always had to go to the beauty salon to keep it within regs (just like guys have to go to the barber every two weeks or so.) Me, I could just braid, tuck, and go. Even in deployments under less than ideal conditions.

I was in the service for awhile. The Navy does not require their female recruits to cut their hair. You just have to keep your hair above and off your collar. It cannot interfere with your cover. Your combo cover is supposed to sit to 1 inch above your ear. Your ball cap is just like any baseball cap. When you wear a male combo cover (for drilling, if you do that) your hair must be entirely inside the cover. I went to a service academy, so the rules for hair might have been a bit different, but they are probably simliar.

wow, goodness gracious, all this over hair? =)

I never thought you were an idiot Waggy. I think that verbal communication is still the best in life when people can hear and see the other person`s facial expressions. Computer communication will never come close to it.
Lots of hugs, sincerely
It would be such a plesure on another thread or privately to know how you took care of your long hair when you had it and how long was it etc.

Jennifer - you first - credentials please. Is that the game??? And shouldn`t you be asking which country??? But actually, what IS the point of that question anyway since we are only talking about where, to our knowledge it is OK for people to keep any length of hair and within what guidelines.

Actually Waggy I wish you wouldn`t be so defensive about it and answer the question because firstly you said that you wish that we would ask you questions. Secondly if you were in the army for six months, a year or whatever you could easily tell us what your experience has been like with hair in the woods, in the situations.
Thirdly still trying to figure out if you are a woman or a man? Yes it would matter to the whole discussion. It was your advantage to answer her question and educate her and me etc. You have made that point many times about educating. There you go. All speeds ahead. What is your experience with long hair in combat situations? I on the other hand do have some fun experience of being in the woods having fun combat and my hair was caught. That experience made me really think when I had to wipe off the paint off me......

Aaah Jennifer - still at it, are we!!

I am familiar with life in the military so no need to "fill me in".

You are correct that I said you were ill informed (yes, I know, your hyphens are better than my hyphens) and that was in regard to your statements about what I need to do or do/do not know.

The fact is that every countries military is different.

The fact is that in many countries hair can be any length for men and women and in many countries women are not permitted in combat situations (I don`t agree with that either).

The fact is that many people in the military serve their time without EVER being in any situation that involves combat (contact type) except for training.

The fact is that in some of the countries that allow hair of all lengths for men and women it does NOT create a problem that is deemed in any way insurmountable and some of those countries ARE involved in combat situations quite regularly.

I`ll give this much: some of my earlier words were harsh.

Read what I was responding to and perhaps you will see why I didn`t bother to respond more "nicely" to some statements telling me to "read a map, watch the news, yada yada and what all I NEED to do". Also not very "nice", wouldn`t you agree?

Next...wags

Jennifer - back again :=D

you said "The one-upmanship idea is yours alone. I ask because you seem to inherently know what is best for the military."

Contradictory sentences. The second sentence is snide and you know it, therefore, it negates the first sentence.

I can`t help what your friends think. My friends don`t agree and neither do I. If someone CHOOSES to have short hair that`s fine with me, as I`ve stated I had a semi buzz cut myself, but I still think it should be their choice.

As to believing a person doesn`t belong somewhere because they find hair important, come on!!! Is this the new litmus test??!!

It would be nice if you could stop putting different meanings to my words. I never once said that my feelings about what I think hair rules (or any other rules for that matter) should be would keep me or anyone I know from joining and faction of the military, or any other career/lifestyles whatever they choose to be in.

It is not necessary to like or agree with all rules of your chosen endeavor. Or people you choose to "chat" with either, eh?...wags

Jennifer - you first - credentials please. Is that the game???

And shouldn`t you be asking which country???

But actually, what IS the point of that question anyway since we are only talking about where, to our knowledge it is OK for people to keep any length of hair and within what guidelines. You could say we are also discussing what we personally think is reasonable as to how it SHOULD be - I suppose under that premise you could make an arguement that if you haven`t been in the military you don`t know whether or not people should keep their hair, but you`d find disagreement there also, among those who have and have not served with or without long hair.

If you are truly interested in my background and experience, I`ll probably be happy to oblige as I certainly have nothing to hide or be embarrassed about.

But right now my feeling is that you are simply trying to do a oneupsmanship with me. I don`t really care for that game. If I am wrong I`m sure we can correct the situation and get along just fine...wags

Hi - Highland C. - I think I`m going to like you...wags :=D

Well Waggy maybe it all depends on where you live. It is hard to be presumptious, incorrect or ill informed when I am living around largest populated jewish area in Canada. It is tough to not get educated when one lives in such a multi cultural background when your best friends in school in daycare are of a diffirent background etc. and then we all work, party together etc. Just the other day I learned about the Chinese language and how today the reading is so diffirent. Gone are the days of upper and lower Canada you know.
You say that you lived in Canada well you should have been aware of this. This is what Canada is all about.
As an immigrant you are allow to come to our country, practice your faith, religious, your language ,your ways and not be thrown in jail for it. Heck we also have private schools for almost all faiths. It is not frown upon that we learn about diffirent languages being taugh in the home. In my home I know three languages. My son announced that he will learning German etc Canada is probably the only country in the world that stand firmly on those rights. That is what makes Canada so beautiful is the cultures. We can easily walk down a street and feel that we are in Italy etc.
Yes I am very aware that there are many many different forms of the jewish religion. They are following their form of their religion. I say form because it is not clear cut. There are many diffirent groups of religious that all can be told that is jewish but are very diffirent from each other.

Some of the richest jewish people live here as well some of them are my friends. IN fact in the newspaper one of the richest jewish families in this world is planning to save their little town in the province where I live.
You assumed that I didn`t know anything about the jewish background which is false. YOu should know better knowing what Canada is all about. We are multi cultural more than anyone else. We are brought up knowing about each other very early in life.
In my area the men do not wear long hair but have beards but not all. Many doctors here are jewish etc. plus on the News, on CNN , in the news paper and everywhere we the public look the men in Isreal that are fighting do have short hair and have beards. I cannot go against those facts. I haven`t seen one Isreal politician or anyone in the millitary that has long hair. You claimed that they are wearing long hair. It seems to me according to the facts that the isreal men prefer short hair in the military. You came so firmly about your opinion about long hair in the army. YOu also came across so knowleable about the Isreal men wearing long hair in the army( I took your word at the time) yet the facts shows that the men prefer short hair. You come across saying that long hair doesn`t cause problems yet every long hair women could tell you a stupid story about their hair being caught etc.
And the only people that cover their faces here are the arab women. OH by the way I do have a jewish employer and I think she knows what she is all about . My family has been to Isreal a few times and I will go one day when the war is over. Maybe you have travel to many parts of the world but many of the parts of the world lives in our Country and everyday I am in culture and learning more and more. I happen to love the jewish culture among others.
To end this You have to remember that I come from a military family. YOu mocked that. You didn`t respect that.