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    Posted: July 12 2007 at 9:05am
Originally posted by Ant Green Ant Green wrote:

ATG is the best and only way I cut my clients with 360 waves. It prevents patches and makes the hair even and makes the cut last longer. It's immpossible to do that WTG. After I go ATG, I brush the waves back in place then go WTG to get the loose strays so to speak.
 
Cutting waves with the grain would seems like it makes perfect sense because thats the way we brush, but it's just the opposite.
 
Barbers like myself have or own techniques just like other professions when it comes to how we patron our customers.
 
for example:
 
Say so have a car that needs to be fixed and to take it in to the local shop to get fixed. The mechanic will sometimes tell you need additional parts that you dont really need just to run up the tab. Then that might have not even been the problem and now you spending more money.
 
We'll these practices are also done by barbers. Cutting your hair WTG is on of them.
 
1.) It reqiures more time to go atg then wtg to clean it up. (Which would be the correct way).
 
2.) Secondly WTG will cuase your hair to grow back unevenly making last for far less time than it would ATG.
 
(Bringing you back sooner and more often to get your hair cut) putting more money in the barbers pocket.
 
And it gets the barber to the next client faster.
keeping it movin. LOL  TRUST ME, I been cutting hair since 1991. JUST TRUST ME. ATG, ATG, ATG. Now you know. 
 
 
Good info.  I still think that the quality of wtg vs. atg haircuts depends on your hair texture and thickness, and your barber's technique and skill.  My barbers cuts my hair wtg and takes his time making sure that my 360's are tight.  Towards those ends, I prefer wtg haircuts for my hair texture. 
 
Also, no matter if you get a wtg or atg haircut, once your line up grows out, you still have to go back to the barbershop for a cut, line up, or trim to maintain a fresh 360 wave look.


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Originally posted by Gvyll Gvyll wrote:

I think Ant's getting so stressed with people makin wrong decisions that he cant help to share some of his secrets 
ya i bet if no1 buys the book, he'll get to tensed up and just yell out all his 360 wave secrets that not even WC could have discovered
 
The answers are out there. I just bring it to you from a barbers point of view. But I was cuttin B4 I was wavin.
 
So I already know the questions people want answered. And I just do my best to answer them. I dont want anyone feeling left in the dark about waves, after they read the book.
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LOL He already gave us a few chapters


i hope he exposez more!!! lol dat waz some true ish about da cuts!!!
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i was gonna go so off topic just now but lets keep it on topic.
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Originally posted by Gvyll Gvyll wrote:

I think Ant's getting so stressed with people makin wrong decisions that he cant help to share some of his secrets 
ya i bet if no1 buys the book, he'll get to tensed up and just yell out all his 360 wave secrets that not even WC could have discovered
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I think Ant's getting so stressed with people makin wrong decisions that he cant help to share some of his secrets 
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LOL He already gave us a few chapters
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maybe if we ask the right questions, we can get his whole book fa free o_O

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Originally posted by Meji Meji wrote:

I agree with ant..i dont cut my hair wtg anymore its too hard 1...and my hair is layed down..im sliding over it
 
Good point Meji, I forgot to include that part.
I speak on the ATG subject in the book too.Wink
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I agree with ant..i dont cut my hair wtg anymore its too hard 1...and my hair is layed down..im sliding over it
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Originally posted by Ant Green Ant Green wrote:

ATG is the best and only way I cut my clients with 360 waves. It prevents patches and makes the hair even and makes the cut last longer. It's immpossible to do that WTG. After I go ATG, I brush the waves back in place then go WTG to get the loose strays so to speak.
 
Cutting waves with the grain would seems like it makes perfect sense because thats the way we brush, but it's just the opposite.
 
Barbers like myself have or own techniques just like other professions when it comes to how we patron our customers.
 
for example:
 
Say so have a car that needs to be fixed and to take it in to the local shop to get fixed. The mechanic will sometimes tell you need additional parts that you dont really need just to run up the tab. Then that might have not even been the problem and now you spending more money.
 
We'll these practices are also done by barbers. Cutting your hair WTG is on of them.
 
1.) It reqiures more time to go atg then wtg to clean it up. (Which would be the correct way).
 
2.) Secondly WTG will cuase your hair to grow back unevenly making last for far less time than it would ATG.
 
(Bringing you back sooner and more often to get your hair cut) putting more money in the barbers pocket.
 
And it gets the barber to the next client faster.
keeping it movin. LOL  TRUST ME, I been cutting hair since 1991. JUST TRUST ME. ATG, ATG, ATG. Now you know. 
 
 
i agree wit dis sh*t rite here, i been sayin dis 4 da longest time


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ant green just exposed the biggest coverup in waving history o_O
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I used to alternate between getting WTG and ATG. The ATG does require more work for the barber and my cuts always came out good.


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ATG is the best and only way I cut my clients with 360 waves. It prevents patches and makes the hair even and makes the cut last longer. It's immpossible to do that WTG. After I go ATG, I brush the waves back in place then go WTG to get the loose strays so to speak.
 
Cutting waves with the grain would seems like it makes perfect sense because thats the way we brush, but it's just the opposite.
 
Barbers like myself have or own techniques just like other professions when it comes to how we patron our customers.
 
for example:
 
Say so have a car that needs to be fixed and to take it in to the local shop to get fixed. The mechanic will sometimes tell you need additional parts that you dont really need just to run up the tab. Then that might have not even been the problem and now you spending more money.
 
We'll these practices are also done by barbers. Cutting your hair WTG is on of them.
 
1.) It reqiures more time to go atg then wtg to clean it up. (Which would be the correct way).
 
2.) Secondly WTG will cuase your hair to grow back unevenly making last for far less time than it would ATG.
 
(Bringing you back sooner and more often to get your hair cut) putting more money in the barbers pocket.
 
And it gets the barber to the next client faster.
keeping it movin. LOL  TRUST ME, I been cutting hair since 1991. JUST TRUST ME. ATG, ATG, ATG. Now you know. 
 


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ya. its basically a rundown of how to get waves
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Sticky this piece and keep adding onto it
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Originally posted by stormy_seas stormy_seas wrote:

i dont want to cut too low though, cause my hair has to be kinda high to see my waves( my hair is kinda straight)
 
you dont suggest combing hair b4 hand?
one time i combed my hair back atg and cut it wtg, does that dfeat the purpose or whut?
 
Combing your hair before you cut it is a good technique.  It helps you cut it more evenly.  Also, combing your hair wtg and then cutting atg is a method used by barbers to do blending and tapers and may not be the best method for full 360 wave haircuts.  Some barbers comb wtg and cut the hair strands while they're still in the teeth of the comb.  This is also a method used for blending and cutting tapers.
 


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i dont want to cut too low though, cause my hair has to be kinda high to see my waves( my hair is kinda straight)
 
you dont suggest combing hair b4 hand?
one time i combed my hair back atg and cut it wtg, does that dfeat the purpose or whut?
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thats wut i thought would happen when i first asked my barber to cut wtg, but to my suprise it actually cut! i been wit it ever since
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Originally posted by stormy_seas stormy_seas wrote:

any idea on how i can actually get a wtg cut, and it actuallt cut?
 
i tried it once, and the clippers just glided right over my hair, cuttin nuthin
 
Use the next lower numbered guard and try to cut wtg.  If it doesn't cut your hair, keep using the next lower numbered guard until you have success.


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