QuoteReplyTopic: Nas new album N!gger and the Industries Reactions. Posted: January 11 2012 at 11:12am
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I have to admit that when I ride out, and roll up to some mature persons home, I tone the sounds down, b/c , some older folk, (they feel it's disrespectful) I can act a fool, and talk about how I'm grown, this is a "free" country, all that, .........but why? I do not have a desire to do something disrespectful like that.
I had an elderly woman the other day ask me to stop popping my bubble gum, LOL, I knocked it off, why not...... LOL?
Well I still wouldn't say that word in front of like people who were apart of MLK's generation because I know that they especially find that word or any variations of it unacceptable/offensive and are sensitive to it regardless. Now if a KKK member says that to me I will be compelled to beat that ass to a pulp because I know they are saying it to try to belittle me instead of showing respect , and I easily get rattled to a point of wanting to draw blood.
If my mama calls me baby she's referring to me being from her womb. I'll always perpetually be her baby. When someone else calls me baby they are calling me a kid not the product of their loins (I'm kicking their ass if their trying to call me the product of their loins). If a man calls me a babe then well if I remember correctly a babe is newly born child. Not sure how that eventually came to mean fine piece of meat. Maybe from cows or something. But I digress anway I can see what you mean. As far as I'm concerned from an objective perspective its become ingrained into the average black mans vocabulary. Some words have a history to deep to be changed. Thats not saying I don't say it or anything. Just a words history is its history. Burials and sh*t and changing it to make it more respectable don't make it a better word. Thats all I'm saying. If Nas can make it a respectable word more power to him but as of right now its history outweighs its supposed meaning.
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For the sake of argument/debate let's go with your proposition, for just a moment, you are saying the word is now what it was, and will always be, right? You are essentially saying that the origin is maintained no matter what the perception is, or the source it's coming from.
OK, When yo mama calls you baby, isn't that different from a woman calling you baby, or a dude calling you babe? Grown men pressing weight are insulted by their peers pushing them, calling them big azz baby.......
If a man calls me baby, that's different, than an elder saying it to me, a lesbian can not call me babe, baby, baby bunny or anything else.
Don't even get me started on other words that came from the Kings English that Black folk, snatched, broke off, pieces and bits, and jazzed it up., making it acceptable to mean something else entirely.
No need to revolt one way or the other in regards to the word in question,
1st Amendment, 1791
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No it is. Its people who want to look for a convenient reason not to feel like the people who called them that years ago. Theres no making a word better by slangularizing the end of it. If thats the case are we gonna see a mexican artist come out with an album called Wetbac or wet bax instead of wetback. Or an Asian artist coming out with a C.D. called Guk or Slopee. No. Fess up if you want to say n***** say n***** but don't act like its different. A n**** is a n**** and a n***** is a n****. A nipple is a nipple if its on a tit instead of breast ain't it. A wetback is a mexican thats mexican is it not. A n***** is a n**** if he's black ain't it. Saying that you've taken the rascism out of it by simply changing the last two letters and acting as if its not the same damn thing is escapism. Now I'm all for Nas doing what he feels is best for him and I'll ride with it but change the word not the slang feel me. The slang is what it is: non recognized english. The word is what it is: recognized english. So if you're gonna move forward with a revolution revolutionize what needs revolutionizing not its little shadow. Thats all I'm saying. Feel me. Smell me. Got me.
You can't win with women. You just have to maintain."
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Oh was I harsh, and abrasive? Belittling and even insulting?
I see your point. I must conduct myself with diplomacy, have a keen sense of what to do or say in order to maintain good relations with others and make an effort to avoid offense. After all is said and done this forum should remain conducive to a spirited, yet respectable exchange of ideas, and ideals with others, less, we find ourselves in a conundrum of pettiness.
Let's see if I can clean it up a bit.......I do not follow human beings, any human being, to the end of the Earth (ride or die), b/c no man is my
G. O. D. Furthermore the "er" vs "a" element of the word in question, is far from "sugar coated shyt".
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Nas can do whatever the f**k he wants thats how big a part of my life he is. Some kid he never met is ready to ride or die with him just from listening to Illmatic. Point blank name it whatever you want just don't sugarcoat it with that a is not the same as er ish. It is what it is don't try and change that.
You can't win with women. You just have to maintain."
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Word I still don't allow people to call me a nig with the ER attached to it because I'm not ignorant, but a nigg with the A is more like a factor of expression like I would say "y'all nigg as crazy", or "nah I ain't see that nigg a" I feel that theres a difference and this might be one of the most important hip-hop albums to date kind of like Public Enemy's It Takes A Nation Of Millions.
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