QuoteReplyTopic: GL Cold Fusion--WOW! Posted: January 21 2008 at 9:23am
I am trying Hair locs next. I tried short to long and they kept falling out, the method is the same but the locs are smaller with hair locks so I am hoping I will get more life with them. I did not get any damage with short to long but then again they didnt stay in long enough to really do any damage.
There would be no point in reporting the stylist to the GL company, as they teach stylists to tell clients that the extensions can be left in for 6 or more months. That's the only way that GL can justify charging $3500 for their classes.
Then stylists perpetuate this lie because it's the only way to get clients to pay big money for something that should be removed in 3 months. And remember, GL doesn't let you reuse the hair, which is another reason all the partied involved lie about the safe wearing time frame.
Sourgirl....I am so sorry you got stuck with such a crappy stylist. She should have removed all the bonds each time and washed your hair and scalp before re-applying. I am really glad you found a method that works better for you but in your first case, I would say you had a really bad GL stylist and that you should report her to GL so that others don't have to go through what you did.
sourgirl.....I don't understand what is meant by maintenance with GL.....they always recommend taking it out completely at the 12 week mark at the longest and doing a full replacement. Did you stylist only replace some strands with maintenance or all of them?
BINGO! I was told from her that they can last any where from 6 to 9 months, what I later found out is she was just using the leftover hair I had for replacement and charging me like she bought new hair. If I lost a few bonds or the bond was getting yucky she would replace it. I had them in for almost 7 months. I called her out on the buying new hair which she later recanted and said no that is for labor which never took more then 45 min. I had little experience with and extensions at that time and trusted her. And on top of it, if she took a bond out she replaced it on the damaged hair the original bond was on resulting in breaking all the way up to the root.
Edited by sourgirl - January 18 2008 at 9:00am
Currant method Hair locs.
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sourgirl.....I don't understand what is meant by maintenance with GL.....they always recommend taking it out completely at the 12 week mark at the longest and doing a full replacement. Did you stylist only replace some strands with maintenance or all of them?
THE RUSSIAN HAIR I INSTALL USUALLY COSTS AROUND $900. FOR 2 OR 3 THICK HAND TIED LONG WEFTS THE TAKE DOWN WITH REINSTALL IS AROUND $300, EVERY 3 MONTHS. MY CLIENTS USUALLY KEEP THE HAIR FOR AT LEAST A YEAR OR TWO. HONESTLY, PLEASE TELL ME, AM I NOT CHARGING ENOUGH???
No I would say not. From a business point of view you would definitly have more of a customer retention charging what you charge. My first GL install cost me about $2k and the maintence was $500 every 3 months, when I took it out it was damage city. I did the micro links which I paid $300 for the install ( same time to install as the gL too ) and $150 every three months. The only thing I didn't like with the links were the fact I needed constant maintence because my hair was thin and they kept slipping. If more stylist would charge resonable prices they would make alot more money then trying to bang people out here and there.
your hair looks great....so natural looking. I love the length but you have to have a length that you can be comfortable with. How long do you keep the hair in before you have to replace it?
I am new to this site. I loved your hair, listen to the girls with experience and good eyes, don't cut your hair yet, give it some time to get used to. You look much prettier with it longer.
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I agree with Malibu, your hair is way too beautiful to cut it... you look prettier w/ longer hair.
Wait a couple of weeks, it takes a while to get used to a different hairstyle sometimes! Thanks for the pics, it's a beautiful work! It sounds very expensive to me, but if you can afford it after all, why not?! Make yourself happy!
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I'm not sure I agree. I mean, THE most damaging thing to hair is heat in any form. Read Paula Begoun's book, it has a great explanation of how heat damages hair, & how it impedes growth. I don't even like to diffuse my hair for a few minutes, much less have a hot tool touching hair close to my scalp. Personally I'd rather be safe & spend the money.
Cold fusion is just all hype. Is it no more or no less 'safe' than warm fusion. I have done both on clients with equally good results.
The heat of warm fusion is not enough to damage the hair for the few seconds it is used to apply the bond.
They charge you more for cold fusion (and therefore fabricate the reasons why it's more) because the machiene is so expensive to purchase. I am So Cap certified, and their cold fusion machine costs $4000!
Any method, cold or hot, is only as 'safe' as the experience of the person putting them in (proper application), the care of the customer (don't let it get matted at the root), the care of the stylist taking them out (be patient and don't rip the hair) and take them ALL out after 3 months and then reapply fresh if you want to.
Problems for GL clients can happen since the company trains it's stylists to overcharge and because of that they tell the client you can wear these things for 6 months in order to justify the ridiculous cost. Any unlike So Cap ( and micro rings, and Shrink Links) GL doesn't allow you to reuse the hair. What a waste of good hair and a racket, if you ask me.
I understand what a fill is for nails--I don't think I'm using the wrong terms. A fill at Guci is replacing strands that have come out, or adding strands if the hair has thinned from shedding. It's not replacing hair between the bonds & your scalp LOL. You can get it done monthly at no cost w/the maintenance plan, or you can take a pass. They do keep any extra strands & use them for fills.
Your salon in Westfield must offer really good deals. I had 3 consults for GL warm fusion. One at Guci, one at a salon in Livingston & one at a salon in Maplewood. All 3 gave me the same price. The cold fusion is more expensive b/c 1) the method is less damaging to the hair & 2) supply & demand--it's tough to find (Guci is the only place that does it in NJ). It's similar to car dealerships--like Mercedes will only allow dealerships within a certain distance of each other to sell their cars. GL does the same thing, at least with cold fusion. Seems like there are an awful lot of folks in this area who do GL warm fusion.
It is most definitely getting cut. It might look beautiful but it's a PITA. I did live with it for a couple of weeks (I'm done making snap decisions about my hair!), but my lifestyle is just too active to have all this hair! I actually really liked the length on my picture trail, it was pretty but still managable, & it wasn't constantly getting tangled up in exercise equipment or my puppies paws.
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Hi, I just read your post and am very happy that your so pleased but I honestly think you are over paying for your monthly maintenance.
I'm in New Jersey also and I'm a certified Great Lengths extensionist for about 7 or 8 years. I do GL at my salon for many of my customers and there is no such thing as a fill (normally thats for nails). Maybe your just using the wrong terms but either way, once you apply the extensions there's no way of filling in what grew. You can add more pieces but even if you do add more pieces, it doesn't change the hair that was already in.
I do have some of my extension customers come in once a month, but that's their personal choice, just to get their hair washed, dried and looked over to make sure it's going good.
I'm in Westfield, NJ which I consider to be a pretty upscale town and my prices for extensions start at $600 and go up to about $1500.(just to give you something to compare to). And if I have any extra strands left over I will usually put them in for the customer when she comes in for a blowout and just charge her 20-25 extra ontop of the blowout. I'm assuming that the strands they are adding are extra from the original service, since a whole new bundle is 25 strands.
I went to the website you posted and to me it seems that your paying for the luxury of a very upscale shop (and I'm sure your hair looks wonderful, as well) but I think your over paying. I'm not trying to promote myself, I just hate to see people getting ripped off. As long as your 100% happy, thats all that matters.
So, I wish you continued happiness with your extensions.
DON'T CUT IT, IT LOOKS GORGEOUS.....GIVE IT A COULPE WEEKS BEFORE YOU CUT IT, YOU'LL PROBABLY CHANGE YOUR MIND. WHAT'S WRONG WITH LOOKING BETTER THAN YOUR OLD DO?
THE RUSSIAN HAIR I INSTALL USUALLY COSTS AROUND $900. FOR 2 OR 3 THICK HAND TIED LONG WEFTS THE TAKE DOWN WITH REINSTALL IS AROUND $300, EVERY 3 MONTHS. MY CLIENTS USUALLY KEEP THE HAIR FOR AT LEAST A YEAR OR TWO. HONESTLY, PLEASE TELL ME, AM I NOT CHARGING ENOUGH???
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iLoveLove wrote:
Make yourself happy!
I actually really liked the length on my picture trail, it was pretty but still managable, & it wasn't constantly getting tangled up in exercise equipment or my puppies paws. 
