Pre-Bleaching and then using Drugstore Color?

okay so i need some help on stripping kits and bleaching kits:

 

i want to put some blonde into my hair like this picture:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2iqmikh&s=5

 

and right now my hair is like this:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=e87osl&s=5

 

so i've used a stripping kit before, but i've put color over it. so since i want to keep the blonde do i use a bleaching kit after i strip out the black color?? or just leave it alone

 

Thank you for all that helpful info born.blonde.

I am pretty much not going to touch my hair now. I did it with the Clairol Pro bleach and thought I did everything right, but everything went wrong. I mean, my hair didn't fall out. But I definitely did not get the desired color result after re-coloring.

I'm sure I must have done something wrong. Someone suggested in my other thread that the orange tone in my hair canceled out the pigment in the Jazzing color. That could be what happened.

At any rate, I'll get someone much more skilled than myself to fix it up. I have to let it rest for a while tho!

Take care!

hi...yes you can get schartzkoph here in the U.S.....how do i know?  i have a bunch of it.....it is at pro stores....i used the bonacure in schwartzkoph and also was looking at their colors....the name of the store here in wichita ks is calles Peels.  hope you can find some of this.....i have a friend who had her licence and we went into the store....i could live in there.

To all awaiting pics... I posted them in a new thread.

Quite an interesting little evening I had here....

http://talk.hairboutique.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=59125&PID=465735#465735

Hey Ally!

I went back to Sally's today and bought 30VOL. I talked to the salesgirl and she told me that it would lift a bit faster, so that's good. She also told me that if I find the bleach drying out, I can re-apply it to keep it moist. I'm going to do it under a cap and borrow my friends proper over the head hairdryer to do the actual job.

Yeah, orange sucks, but I'm going to cover it right up. I can imagine if I ever want to go proper blond again it will have to be a process of streaking until it's at the place I want it.

I will let you all know how I make out. I'm getting my boyfriend to take pics of each stage so I can show you how it goes.

Thanks everyone for your help!

LOL doing a strand test is harder than I thought it would be.

I'm sitting here and the bleach is not even working.

I sectioned out a small part of my back hair and applied 1/8 teaspoon of powder mixed in w/ 2 - 1/8 teaspoons of developer.

I have the hair in a hair clip, but I don't have a blinking hair cap. So I blow dried it to heat activate, but I don't see any change in color at all and it's been nearly 15 mins.

How can I effectively do a strand test?

When I do this for real, should I sit under one of those home dryers? How much heat does the bleach need to activate?

Thanks!

EDIT:

OK, i left it on for about 40 minutes, after I got a cap and I used my blowdryer on alternating high and low. I got to a burnt orangey color. I should probably have left it on longer, but my hand was hurting from holding the blowdryer up so long. I am going to borrow my girlfriends salon style drier to do the real job. So I'm thinking i should probably leave the bleach on for about an hour to get it to yellowy color, I'll just have to keep checking it every 20 mins. I'll do my roots in the last 20 mins as they are virgin hair and about a half inch of growth.


One thing I noticed, it's a bit deceiving evaluating the color before it's washed. To me the hair looked more caramel at 40 mins, and when I washed it and dried it, I saw the orange.

I wonder why my hair lifted so much faster when I went to the salon. I don't think I had the bleach on for more than 25 mins there. But maybe it just felt shorter! I'm thinking she must have used a 30 or 40 developer? Doesn't it work faster the higher the level of developer?

Also I think I'm going to grab another 1oz packet of bleach powder and do up a total of 4oz bleach. I can't imagine that the 2oz will be enough for my whole head.


Edited by glittergirl - February 06 2008 at 10:37pm

I used permanent the first time,then started using demi's (clairol Natural Instincts) because I read on here they deposit color better.(my color kept fading)

Edited by julesyjul88 - February 06 2008 at 4:40am

Just do a strand test first.That way if the color looks too dark you dont have to proceed all over your head.

In my exprience stripper isnt as harsh as bleach.But then I have only used Metalex which is meant to remove semi's and it's oil based.

Edited by julesyjul88 - February 05 2008 at 7:58pm

Stripper can be harsh, just do a treatment after if your worried. There's no way around it to achieve what you're after. Let us know how it goes and post pics!

If it's only a few shades you want to lighten, the stripper will do fine. It will take out a bit of the dark dye so you can dye over with a lighter color.