Uzma- Thanks for the interesting links! I really enjoyed the Eras of Ellegance link...I`m into history & past culture, etc., so I loved it! :)
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Uzma, I congradulate you on your brave and interesting decision to grow your hair as long as it can grow. A year ago I had hair past my waist, but my hair was thin, tangled easily, and I decided to get it cut. It also takes an extraordinary amount of time and energy to really care for hair that long. It was fun having hair that long though. Best of luck and have a happy New Year!
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The tangling thing is starting to happen already - I wake up every morning looking like Medusa with a head full of writhing snakes (lol). Still, there is a certain wild charm to it. I guess I`m in love with my hair, or totally obsessed...whatever...so I tolerate and even celebrate it`s foibles.
How short did you go? Did you have to adjust to the new style - psychologically, I mean? Did people start treating you differently in anyway? I would be interested to know........
And a Happy New Year to you, too.
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Hi Uzma, I got my hair cut a year ago out of frustration and depression, I had broken up with a guy and I just went to the beauty salon and had it cut. I had it cut initially in a short bob cut and then a week later went back and had it cut in a short pixie. Quite a change going from hair past my waist to a short pixie! I really missed my long hair,I cried some tears, but I did get compliments on my new look(you look cute, adorable, that sort of thing), and many of my girlfriends and women co-workers wear their hair short, which helped. Two months after I got my hair cut short I met a guy who is really good to me, a handsome, loving man who I really love, and that really helped too. We are getting married this May. I have done other things also to compensate for my lack of hair. I always dress feminine, I always wear makeup, I got my ears pierced again, I wear two earrings in each ear, and I have a pierced left nostril and I wear a nosestud. I bought some beautiful new skirts and dresses. I actually feel very feminine! I go in once a month for a trim to keep my pixie looking good and not shaggy. It is actually quite short now, the shortest I have worn my hair, my pixie really isn`t much longer than a crewcut, but I have gotten used to the style, and after the initial shock of not having long hair wore off, and the tears dried up, I have to say I really like my new short hairstyle. I can see why you want to wear your hair long though Uzma I still love looking at long hair on both men and women, it is wonderful! I say , you go girl, if you really want exceptionally long hair and you feel you have the right hair for it,(I really didn`t , my hair was too thin), grow it as long as you like! that sounds like fun Uzma!
Happy New Year, and enjoy your long hair!
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My hair is now shoulder-length and growing fast. Its black with silver streaks (naturally) - my 5 year old neice keeps saying "you have glitter in your hair". It has loose waves in it but has a tendency to dry frizzy on the day I wash it. Its strange the way it looks - unusual, having it`s own unique combination of characteristics. It looks and feels unlike I had imagined it would.
I am toying with the idea of having a series of black & white art photographs taken of it (and my self) as it is growing out. Like a sort of testimony to my "peaking femininity" - well I`m in my thirties now so everything will head south soon - I`ll need something to cheer me up on a cold wet afternoon ......
Take care TG.
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Hey Uzma! Sounds like your hair-growing experience is going well :). How`s things with your mom? Has she made any more of a fuss about it lately? Just wondering....
Lotsa Love (& Cheers) Inga:)
PS- BEAUTIFUL quote.....The Song of Songs again?
If I had wings then I could take you in I'd stay on the ground and show you some things The grass is strewn with blades of gold all sights and sounds I have been told all hopes, desires, seem to sing
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I loved checking out the links you provided. The sikh page was really fascinating and so much of what it said really hit home with me. I am not Muslim...but I do feel that there is truth in every philosophy. Anyway, I am not claiming to never cut my hair....but I am seeing how long I can go without trimming it. i went from a clippered nape and chin length front in May of last year to shoulder length now. I have not had a cut since then. I condition a lot and use oils so you would not think it needs it. So I can relate to you sense of curiosity as to where it will go. It is like relinquishing control over something that all my life, I (or my mom)controlled quite subconsciously. I would go to the salon and tell the stylist "I want my hair to do this" like it was a trick pony - then come home and force it into straightness, or waviness........ Now I wash and condition and let it decide where it wants to go. As long as it looks healthy, I don`t see anything wrong with that. Anyway - I am rambling...just thought I would share.
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Glad you enjoyed the links. Sounds like you have come to a peaceful co-existence with your hair - or maybe it would be more precise to say that you have granted it it`s freedom. I like what you said. Enjoy your journey of discovery. And thanks for sharing.
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Hi Uzma! So your mom's letting her hair grow?!?!? Is it because of you? Wow! That's great! Not really revenge, but sort of, in a nice way...well, good job convincing her or being an example. It'll probably bring you closer, too. :) :)
Good to hear from you, Uzma...I'll try to write ya some poetry soon,OK? I'm so flattered by what you said! Thanks! :) :)
Cheers! Inga
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As a liberal thinker I have to admire you for your choice to go against the norm. As a cosmetologist I also want to tell you that it is possible to give your hair regular trims to give it shape and to guard against split ends and still grow it out. If split ends go unchecked they can split right up to your scalp and that leads to breakage. Be careful of over-conditioning. Hair needs a balance of moisture and protein(to strengthen). Too much of either one will lead to breakage. It's also a good idea to invest in salon quality products. The ingredients and cleansing agents are much better and more gentle on hair. The use of a shine mist or solution applied to your hair daily will help protect it from the elements, however, these products tend to make the hair appear greasy if too much is applied but it's worth it. I also hope that you don't end up with the long hair that makes me and every other stylist I know kringe at the sight. Long, untouched hair that gets so thin and stringy at the ends I want to go and cut it off where its fuller and would look better. It's caused by breakage. Regular maintenance can leave your hair full from scalp to the very ends. Good luck.
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With respect to maintaining the "look" of well-groomed hair, I have to tell you that it is exactly this type of control that I am rebelling against.
My aim is "un-finished" hair, left totally to it's own devices, as God intended, without reference to social opinion/norms/convention/acceptability. The slavery is over. Period.
I am experimenting with products. Previously, I have used and raved about the Phytotherathrie and Kerastase lines - both top of the range, salon-quality products. I have had a change in direction recently. I am using totally natural products i.e shikaki (soapnut) or egg+lemon+Rosemary EO to clean and various base & essential oils to condition. This routine is more effective than anything that I have previously tried. My hair has never felt/looked so good and my scalp is clean and calm.
I am starting to realise exactly how much we are SOLD in terms of how we must take care of ourselves, and that hi-tech synthetic products can out-perform unaltered, natural substances. Of course, hair-cuts, colours, products are all designed to make us spend more and more money. The fashionable changes in style are likewise aimed at making us feel out-of-tune with the modern world, insecure, etc. Therefore we are buying security and tribal acceptance at a cost to our individuality as well as our pockets.
I'll get off my soap-box now (lol).
Thanks for your feedback.
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If your aim is "My aim is "un-finished" hair, left totally to it's own devices, as God intended, without reference to social opinion/norms/convention/acceptability. The slavery is over. Period."
Why do anything to it but wash it with mild now and then... isn't doing anything else self defeating to your goal?
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Yes. Minimal interference is my aim - but, as a religious woman - "cleanliness is next to Godliness".
Therefore, I wash it and moisturise it if and when I feel it is required. I administer basic care and then leave it alone.
If I lived in the Hunza Valley (a relatively unspoilt and pure environment in my homeland) - I would probably wash my hair and body in the local stream as needed - and that would be it.
But I live in polluted London on a questionably toxic diet, hence more washing and nurturing of hair and body wih "substances" than is ideal.
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Uzi : I have one suggestion. If ANYONE makes a derogatory remark, pump their bodies with "metaphorical" lead since their insensitive (and often envious) spirits aren't worth being carried in such a body.
How long has it been since you stopped believing in all this society-mandated crap ?
I'm (by my sig, you get an idea) 18, male, have been 31 months without going to a "hairstylist" since style is too synonymous to cut around here. While I really know nothing about hair (the first time I bought a bottle of shampoo on my own was only 3 weeks ago, pitiful ) , I wish to learn. I am convinced there are ways to keep the hair manageable even if they become 1.5 metres long or more (possibly thick braids, braids of braids, I don't know)
I, however, am an atheist. I can disagree on your position's backings, but the end result is what counts. Humans have evolved in time from being slime to scaly fish, to all sorts of intermediate forms, to primates who were hairy all over but kind of limited length, to homo sapiens: a creature that can have a much longer length on the head, and elsewhere. Hair is there. So I say make use of it instead of discarding it.
The appeal of the long hair derives in no part from femininity or masculinity. We are human, and if we exploit what we are and not what we are told to do, that is natural beauty. That is art.
Counterpoint : I'm not saying short hair on others isn't artistic. However, I am repulsed with how short hair (or none) used to have a social stigma of slave, and now, everyone decides to go for the slave cut.
If I want to master something, it will be myself. Please remember that, it may be one of the mantras you keep sacred in your mind.
P.S. : Uzma (the Uzi was used to emphasize the initial metaphor) : Any good product suggestions you may have that do not have pervasive smells and actually are beneficial to the hair, please, make a list. I like to meditate, and when you meditate, you breathe. I just don't want to smell beaver genitals, musk glands, whale sperm, or anything offensive in that line. I enjoy faint or no smells. If you know something that fits into that simple yet demanding category, I thank you in advance if you're willing to share the info.
I hate all of the following and lots more : Fundamentalists, racists, sexists, fascists, ageists (people saying seniors = senile , kids = stupid , 18 = immature or a combo of them), and bigots for causes yet to receive their own designation.
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> How long has it been since you stopped believing in all this society-mandated crap ? <
I read a book back in the 80s about mind-contol experiments by the US government. I was interested in the theory that the guy who assasinated John Lennon had been “programmed” into committing murder by the CIA. After reading that – and a great deal of thought – it struck me how important social control was in societies with huge and diverse populations. If everyone was permitted to be truly autonomous – truly independent in thought and action – the state, status quo and social stability would be under constant challenge. So, feed the key messages via parents, school, media, laws, etc. Feed the young, immpressional brains your concepts of right, wrong, friend, enemy, conformity, rebellion – all the symbols of fear and desire – and seal them in the name of freedom and civilization. Never has man been so free to do so little. Once you start the de-construction process in your head, a scatter effect takes place and your spirit, your uniqueness, thrusts you forward.
> homo sapiens: a creature that can have a much longer length on the head, and elsewhere. Hair is there. So I say make use of it instead of discarding it. <
I don’t know, and no one has been able to satisfactorily explain to me why we are the only species that grow such long “fur” in so selective a location. The “protect brain from heat-loss and damage” theory doesn’t explain why guys go bald. The aquatic ape theory consisting of “babies need to hold onto long hair while aquatic mother swims in water” is too far-fetched. So I guess the only way I can find out is through direct experience – which is where I am heading.
>The appeal of the long hair derives in no part from femininity or masculinity. <
I agree with you in that the hair itself is fascinating and attracts sensual attention, whether attached to a male or female. I find long-haired guys very sexy. However, I feel less of a woman (?), less whole perhaps or less spiritually and sexually complete with short-hair. Again, I don’t know why. I am on a journey of discovery. My mind is open and my opinions are developing in line with my experience. Hair is a gender-less. It is an entity with a strong, primal magnetism. Hair is mysterious.
>We are human, and if we exploit what we are and not what we are told to do, that is natural beauty. That is art. <
YES YES YES !!!!!!!!! That’s exactly it. And there is something that I had rejected in myself, nature and God – something I had cut myself off from when I had cut my hair short. I don’t condescend to anyone – this is true for me – you know what is true for you. So glad you thought and wrote those words.
> If I want to master something, it will be myself. Please remember that, it may be one of the mantras you keep sacred in your mind. <
I agree and thank you for your gift of wisdom. Seek the Truth and it will set you free. Indeed it is the only thing that can.
>Any good product suggestions you may have that do not have pervasive smells and actually are beneficial to the hair, please, make a list. <
I am experimenting with loads of stuff at the moment. I will share the results in due course. If I find something that produces good results that fits your criteria, I will post it on this thread.
Thank you so much for your message. I love everything you said. Good luck to you on all your journeys.
Uzi (hehehe)
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Uzma, since your hair is still quite short, never cutting it again it going to yield you very uneven and split ends. Even if you treat your hair with the absolute utmost care, just being alive, washing it and combing it you are guaranteed to have split ends. The problem with that is that the split ends travel up along the hair shaft and then your hair will become weak.
It is your hair, and you can do whatever you like, but quite frankly, your hair may never grow to even a medium length if you never, ever trim it.
I very much understand that you are leery of trimming it, because sometimes "trims" will take way too much off! One of the reasons that several years ago, I cut my long hair short, is that it was looking scraggly on the ends (let's face it, witchy hair is not attractive on anyone). I trim my hair ever-so-slightly once every 3-4 months now, and it's just even to even the ends and keep my hair looking thick and luscious!
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