QuoteReplyTopic: Hairlocs Pics- Kimarie Teter's Work Posted: January 05 2005 at 12:53pm
Hello. I just wanted to share my experience with Kimarie Teter and Hairlocs. I went to see Kimarie because I have hair loss issues and was hoping that I was a candidate for extensions. My hair loss has occurred very gradually over the last 10-12 years and it was starting to get so noticeable that I finally decided to pursue cosmetics options to improve the appearance. I trusted Kimarie as a stylist and hairlocs “expert”, which is a mistake that I never intend to make again. I spent a total of $1,188 on products, hair, & installation costs and you can see for yourself in the pictures that I posted what I got for my money. Of the $1,188 that I spent, only $250 was refunded.
Here's the link to the pictures. They include before & after pictures taken at Kimarie's studio during my first installation and then pictures that I took 8 weeks later, with the hairlocs still in.
Please let me know if you are unable to view the pictures. You may have to try the link more than once. Sometimes it doesn't work right away, but if you try it again then they come up fine.
I had to get a topper (integration piece) to cover up the damage and missing hair. Now, I basically have a wig woven on to the top of my head. I have seen an expert since, who told me that I never was a candidate for extensions. The hair on the top of my head is just too thin to hide any type of extensions.
Is anyone fire-breathing mad when they look at these photos? Maybe you'd have to have been lied to and worn these godforsaken things and lost your dignity, money and hair to understand the anger involved.
miamigirl, thank you for posting these. You have my complete understanding and sympathy here. Do not be ashamed. Your voice and your photos WILL save someone from the extreme losses you suffered because of Kimarie Teter and the Hairlocs system.
You were no candidate for Hairlocs. Ever. Kimarie's "vast knowledge and experience" failed you, just as it has others who have begun to speak out. Her failure to acknowledge her error and the damage she caused makes her the worst kind of stylist there is -- one who denies responsibility, doesn't learn, and who continues to do the same thing to others.
$250 refund is a joke. Their scare tactics of getting a lawyer is a joke simply because you are telling others.
Copper locks break down human hair's cuticle. It's scientific fact and there's so much information on the Internet regarding how copper patina staining (the turquoise-green color http://members.aol.com/purgefile/hairlocsdamage4.jpg) damages human hair.
This thread should never be allowed to linger on the back pages and should be bumped every so often as a reminder to others how devastating this Hairlocs system can be.
Thanks for the support AMM. I decided to post these pictures in hopes that it would prevent someone else from suffering through a similar situation. Nobody should have to go through the mental anguish that I did over those 8 weeks. I'm just glad that they have been removed and that I can finally put this miserable experience behind me.
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Miamigirl...Im so sorry you went thru this, thanks for posting the photos. Im sure it wasnt the easiest thing for you to do. Hang in there hun...and I hope for some speedy regrowth. Your in my thoughts, and hopefully others wont make the same mistake
A million thank yous, Miamigirl. It's incredibly courageous and generous of you to share your photos on these boards. Anyone who's even considering paying thousands of dollars for this method or this stylist--and especially anyone who suffers from hairloss--should take a long, hard look at these pictures so they can truly understand the risks beforehand.
As for what the photos illustrate, it's a sheer disgrace. Shame on Kimarie for installing them in the first place, and shame on any other hairlocs stylists who claim they can conceal hairloss with hairlocs (or any other extensions, for that matter). If the thinning has progressed to the point where you don't have enough volume on top to cover the locs (bonds, braids, etc.), extensions are only going to draw more attention to the thinning (as your photos clearly show). Shrinkies or micro-illusions would've been a bit easier to conceal, but even those methods wouldn't have camoflauged the hairloss; toppers, integration pieces, or wigs would've been appropriate options. And as a "hairloss expert," Kimarie should've known this. What's more, I thought "hairloss experts" were doctors, not extensionists.
Of course, everyone makes mistakes sometimes, but the fact that Kimarie wouldn't refund you in full for this disaster shows not only a lack of judgment, but also a lack of basic integrity, imo. And that is simply inexcusable.
And yes, AMM, this makes me furious--and not only because I got totally ripped off by this stylist, too, but also because I think it's disgusting that after all of this, Kimarie had the balls to come on this site and claim that she was being unfairly persecuted as part of some "smear campaign." In fact, these were her words: "we have an open book policy, we do what we say, we treat everyone equally, we empower, we hide nothing from anyone...." It takes a lot of balls to write that and then treat your clients in this way.
Again, Miamigirl, you have my gratitude, my respect, my support, and my empathy. No one should ever have to go through what you, I, and others have been through.
My heart goes out to you too {{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}. I hope the same thing happens to this Kimarie someday and she could feel the pain that she has put you through (plus she's giving us Kim's a bad name). Are hairlocks like the micro-links?
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I have heard so MANY horror stories on hairlocs (and kimarie). We would probably be shocked to know how many other people that we havent heard about that have had the same experiences.
My heart goes out to all of you ladies who put your trust into these people who call call themselves experts just to be let down, devasted and out of alot of money in the end.
I dont know how these people can justify themselves or this method.
I am so sorry that you had to go through this. big **hugs** to you.
I dont know where Kimarie is located at but in most every state you have to be licensed to be a sylist. Has anyone contacted the state licensing board and filed a formal complaint about her? If a group of people got together and did this, with the evidence of pictures, etc...I would think they would have to do something.
I wish I had known about all this too, miamigirl. I really thought I had done my research but I was dazzled by the photos and the fact they claimed right out in the open that it wouldn't damage my hair. This fact was reenforced by my own stylist who blew so much smoke up my ass, I was farting smoke rings for a week. (ohhh, can I say that?)
re: the copper shells question above about copper leaching and causing patina stains which break down hair cuticle...
Because it's not mainstream to be having copper shells clamped onto human hair, there's not anything out there that you can find about these shells. What you have to look for is info on what's called "Swimmer's Hair" or do your searches randomly. Such as, "green hair from copper" or "patina damage to cuticle," etc. Information about copper intake on a cellular level needs to be disregarded. Copper is actually beneficial to health but we're talking about corrosive break down of copper and copper leaching onto the surrounding hair so only that info needs to be considered.
If you're interested, searches can be done to understand what copper really is, how it breaks down, and other materials it can damage and/or eat away. Some sites plainly state the copper is damaging to human hair. Other sites are clearly logical because they indicate material stronger than human hair gets eaten away by the patina.
A troll made the absurd comment that the photo I posted of the turquoise verdigris in my own hair looked like I faked it. Unless you've seen this neon in-your-face color surrounding each and every Hairlocs strand once the copper shell is opened, you'll never understand how striking the color is.
AMM: I think that we had different stylists, but the same smoke is still coming out of my a** too.
I didn't really experience any problems with my hair turning green, maybe because I only had them in for 8 weeks.....or maybe because they kept ripping out the hair that they were attached too.
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First off I wanted to applaud miamigirl for being so brave to post those pics so that others will be educated to not make the same mistake. ANd I'm so sorry you had to go through with all this and learn the hard way.
Question for anybody who has experience with different extensions methods - what would cause one method to actually pull hair out at the roots (I've noticed a few people mentioned that hairlocs and fusion have done this) versus other methods? I can see why some might break off the hair versus others, but pulling out at the roots?
Well, I'm not exactly sure, but I have a few ideas.
My experience with hairlocs was that I primarily had damage where the loc was clamped down on the hair, not from the actual root. The hair that came out at the roots, and there was some of that too, was caused by the fact that the hairlocs weren't very secure, so they were slipping and would sometimes "pull" the real hair with them--perhaps because they were heavier than my own hair?
Why the hair was totally broken underneath the clamp is still a mystery, but I think it may be A) they were simply clamped too tight, B) the green copper patina started eating away at the actual hair, C) there is something about the mechanical design of those locs that makes them too "sharp" in the hair, or D) the double-sided tool used to remove them hurts the real hair during removal. My best guess is that it's a combination of all these factors. Some say that Extentubes can cause some damage, too, but it seems like a safer method overall, and there's no copper, green residue, or double-sided removal tool. I believe extendtubes are aluminum, and I also think there somewhat thicker than the hairlocs shells, so maybe that gives the hair a little more protection (please someone else jump in here).
I also had GLs and Cinderella, and the damage with those methods was very different. I don't think there actually was much damage at all while I was wearing them; it was during removal that it happened. When the GLs/Cinderella strands were removed (with the GLs remover), the remover just didn't break down the bond enough so the stylist had to apply pressure to "pull" them out, basically. Even though the shells are supposed to "crack" open, and they did crack to a certain extent, it still wasn't enough to get them out. So after hours of pulling (and crying), I had very little hair left--and yes, much of that was pulled from the root. After several applications of GLs, I actually took them out myself the last time with lots of oil, pliers, and a drop of acetone with much more success. My hair was trashed at that point, but at least there wasn't much additional damage. I do think that some women's hair may be strong enough to endure the keratin glue and pulling of GLs. Mine, unfortunately, is not.
Amm has posted several threads on hairlocs damage, outlining why she thinks the damage occured. Metalgirl also said she's seen similar effects from Eurolocs when used long-term, so you may want to check those threads, too.
Is your reaction also dependent on what type of hair that you have? I saw an extensions expert towards the end of my 8 weeks of hairlocs hell, who told me that I was never a candidate for extensions because of how thin my hair is on top. Also, she said that I wasn't losing them because of "natural shedding" as Kimarie said, but because of the fact that I had a piece of metal clamping down on my hair causing the breakage. I don't understand how this product could have been designed for people with hair like mine, despite what Kimarie claims.
Well, it wasn't "designed" for your hair at all--no extensions are designed for hairloss, although toppers/integration pieces are. All of this talk about "natural shedding" is quite overblown, imo. Everyone natural sheds 100 or so hairs a day, but that wouldn't at all create the sort of difficulty you had with Hairlocs. The fact is, you weren't a candidate for them, or any other kind of extensions. Period. Anyone who knows anything about hairloss would know that, so they never should've been applied in the first place. That was mistake #1 (of course there were others along the way with your Hairlocs debacle, but it was simply the wrong product for you).
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