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    Posted: January 13 2005 at 6:50pm
I don't know that I'm smart, oly--I've just been ripped off enough times now to take everything these hair companies say with a grain (ok, many grains) of salt.

Again, I do think the GLs hair is very good quality. Even though I hated the method, I never disliked the hair.

It's nice to hear that you're searching high and low to find the best methods. The extensions business can be very hard, imo, because there's so much information to wade through, so many shady companies, and every client's hair--and expectations--are different.

Anyway, good luck with the Shrinkies--I think you'll like them--and please keep up posted on how it goes. :)
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yes . the pricing is direct from the company.and yes,i do cut them vertically.
i do believe a lot of techs do over price. as for the coloring tech,i do plan on visiting the company myself in june to see it as well. i have been licensed for 20 years and really do understand the chemical process of hair. i really do want to find the best method of application and type of hair to use that wont financially rip off the client.
sidenote:jenny, you are one smart woman.
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Oly: Thanks for the info. on the GLs pricing; I assume that's direct from the company? Interesting.... I paid $1200 for my GLs hair (200 strands of 24 inch), which, according to your calculations, actually costs $780. (I knew I was getting screwed...and I paid an extra $1200 for the service....grrrrrrr).

As I'm sure you realize by now, you can definitely retip the GLs hair for Shrinkie application (I found some leftover GLs actually, and plan to do the same thing myself). I've always liked the GLs hair (as human hair goes), but I hate fusion, and the price is a lot to pay.

I've heard of people cutting the bonds down before, too, but only horizontally (because they're so long), not vertically. Your techinque sounds intriguing.

I have to agree that there's no way you can lift dark-brown Indian temple hair to 613 blonde without stripping it. The company says it uses the same method as is used for wool; however, they're not making black wool white by simply dipping it in color. I've also heard that it's chemically texturized and bleached, too.

Good luck, and please let us know how it goes!

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the only way to get dark brown or black hair to blond is to bleach or strip it, since peroxide alone cant make dark colors light. and the hair is also permed or straightened so its all the right texture. where are u getting your info.? i know great lengths says it uses more gentle process, and maybe they do, but they do use bleach, peroxide and perm solution. just like their keratin bond is still glue..................
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the one thing i do know about the color process of GL is that they color it like you do wool or cotton. it is "dipped" for color.not stripped. therfor the cuticle is never opened and that is why it is so shinny and doesnt get dull.also why it doesnt tangle as much.
i am so excited about the thought of putting the GL together with shrinklinks.
il post the results after i try it.
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you can use any hair you want with shrinklinks. you just need to pre-tip it.

great lengths may be cuticle hair, but its not virgin hair because they chemically dye and straighten or perm it.
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I have had the great lenghts done 3 times and it was very expensive and the bonds were hard on my very thin fine hair. The extension hair was really great quality but of course for the price of the 3 sets of hair I could have bought a used car! I am looking for less expensive but good quality alternative. Is this the shrinkies method? Do you put these in yourself? And where and what kind of hair do you get? Any info from a shrinkie user would be great.
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i say one bond is really two because in any application i have ever done i have never used the full strand. its too big and will break the hair off.i always cut them in half.for fine hair i cut them in thirds.
as for the prices:18-2:80per strand(really 2)
20"-$3.40
24"-$3.90
i do love the texture and that all the hair is virgin hair is a bonus.hardly a tangle.
the equiptment is the pricey thing. the machine costs 700. i should see if there is a curling iron with a temp gage that i can mimic the same heat off of.i dont know why i didnt think of that before.
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shrinklinks and fusion are not the same thing.

you could cut off or cut down the bond or snip it off to pre-tip the whole thing for shrinklinks.

why do you say each strand is really two? i dont understand that.

thats a good price for great lengths hair. but 12 is short. what do they charge for longer hair?
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is shrinkie considered fusion?
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ok ,
i checked the price per strand on GL and it comes to 2.20 for 12in. (but actually thats for 2 strands because you never use one ,its too heavy)
i know the quality is awesome and what i am hearing here is the technique is not.
would i be able to cut the tips off the hair and try them shrinkie style???
i wonder if anyone has tried that. am i crazy??
i am looking for the best natural hair that will stay on using the best bonding technique.seems to me like a marraige is in order here.
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great lengths is no better and no worse than any other fusion. the hair is really nice but its also pricey.

the problem with fusion like great lengths is its too harsh for most hair. girls with thick coarse hair can use it but their not the ones that want extensions most of the time. girls with fine thin hair should not try fusion.
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heard too many horror stories about GL
It is what it is...
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When you say "last as long," you mean the bonds, not the hair, right?

If applied correctly, I think the Shrinkies should last about the same as Great Lengths. You might lose a few here or there, but there should be no major slippage. The Shrinks are easier to remove and better for the hair, though. :)
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ok. i am hooked. i feel like i have found a real cool group of woman.sharing,intellegent& supportive.
with that said.i am sure this has been asked before.
which lasts longer?shrinkie or greatlength?
i have never tried the shrinkie .
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